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  • #1,761
  • Jun 10, 2009 10:06am Jun 10, 2009 10:06am
Quick questions..

Looking for weakness means you're trying to see when the up trend is going to slow down and reverse, right?

And when looking for strength you're trying to see when the downtrend is about to become an uptrend, correct?
  • #1,762
  • Jun 10, 2009 11:17am Jun 10, 2009 11:17am
Quoting lolpie
Quick questions..

Looking for weakness means you're trying to see when the up trend is going to slow down and reverse, right?

And when looking for strength you're trying to see when the downtrend is about to become an uptrend, correct?
Right.

Weak = Down = South = Bear
Strength = Up = North = Bull

Any other Synonyms???
  • #1,763
  • Jun 10, 2009 11:31am Jun 10, 2009 11:31am
Quoting malcolmb14
perfect vsa set up for 120 pip long gu earlier while i was sleeping

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Nice.

Strange thing I noticed:
I compared this chart with both my demo ibfx and live Alpari UK charts...
and I now noticed the ibfx chart had nothing to do with it, while my live Alpari was very similar

When I started, it used to be the reverse (ibfx very close, and Alpari far off).

I might start to look directly to my live Alpari UK account for vsa setups, at least in this time window (europe to us).
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  • #1,764
  • Jun 10, 2009 11:59am Jun 10, 2009 11:59am
Better view of what I meant here:
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  • #1,765
  • Edited 12:44pm Jun 10, 2009 12:30pm | Edited 12:44pm
Here we go...I finished summarizing everything. It's 1.5 pages of VSA goodness.

I think it's a nice cheat sheet in case you forget a definition or something, but I'll be using it to just remember the different terms and see if I can find each one multiple times on my charts.

Hope this helps you guys...

Btw I didn't cover trend lines or s/r lines

P.S If someone can read it and tell me if I made a mistake somewhere I would appreciate it
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  • #1,766
  • Jun 10, 2009 12:52pm Jun 10, 2009 12:52pm
I don't know what's wrong with IBFX but I think it come from the 5 decimal price volume.

I already mentioned this problem on that thread not a long time ago, and today when I try another time to open an account, this time I have one with 4 decimal price. Why ? good question ...

But here is my volume, perfectly matching the one of esignal ... Three or four bars out but nothing obvious for a 5min chart.

Hope to keep the 4 decimal price now ...
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  • #1,767
  • Jun 10, 2009 1:01pm Jun 10, 2009 1:01pm
Quoting MonkeydLuffy
I don't know what's wrong with IBFX but I think it come from the 5 decimal price volume.

I already mentioned this problem on that thread not a long time ago, and today when I try another time to open an account, this time I have one with 4 decimal price. Why ? good question ...

But here is my volume, perfectly matching the one of esignal ... Three or four bars out but nothing obvious for a 5min chart.

Hope to keep the 4 decimal price now ...
Well, that might just be it:
The 5 digit demo is far off, while the 4 digit demo is similar.

When I try a manual login, I get 2 servers from where to login from:
- IBFX-MT4 Demo-1_5 decimal;
- InterbankFX-Demo Accounts.

I suppose the second one is the 4 digit one, but it doesn't assume it, if I try to choose it.

Maybe if I open a new demo account, I'll get the chance of making that choice at the beginning, and sticking to it. Will try.
  • #1,768
  • Jun 10, 2009 3:20pm Jun 10, 2009 3:20pm
Sooner or latter brokers will startt to manipulate with volume as they do with prices, spread...
The Market pays you to be disciplined
  • #1,769
  • Jun 10, 2009 3:44pm Jun 10, 2009 3:44pm
Quoting tonirai
Well, that might just be it:
The 5 digit demo is far off, while the 4 digit demo is similar.

When I try a manual login, I get 2 servers from where to login from:
- IBFX-MT4 Demo-1_5 decimal;
- InterbankFX-Demo Accounts.

I suppose the second one is the 4 digit one, but it doesn't assume it, if I try to choose it.

Maybe if I open a new demo account, I'll get the chance of making that choice at the beginning, and sticking to it. Will try.
To finish this analysis:

I made a fresh ibfx demo installation on my desktop (downloaded a new setup file):
Two demo servers were presented to choose from, one of which classified as 4 digit, "IBFX-MT4 Demo-2_4 decimal" - it all went well with this one, I have 4 digit price and regular volume (similar to e-signal);

I then took that setup file to my laptop, and after uninstalling previous ibfx program + erasing file directory and cleaning registry, I ran it:

Curiously, only one demo server was available now (the same I had before, "InterbankFX-Demo Accounts", with volume differences);
- So instead of opening a new demo, I just cancelled and made a login with the recent account installed on the desktop (but with the wrong demo server, the only one available) - it accepted the login and automatically picked the right "IBFX-MT4 Demo-2_4 decimal" server.

So in conclusion, apparently a fresh installation doesn't automatically allows you to choose the right server... strange.
But at least, I have the right one now on 2 computers (the same account).
  • #1,770
  • Jun 10, 2009 3:52pm Jun 10, 2009 3:52pm
Is ther ebetter volume for esignal? Someone has code to share, please?
The Market pays you to be disciplined
  • #1,771
  • Jun 10, 2009 4:16pm Jun 10, 2009 4:16pm
Quoting mima
Is ther ebetter volume for esignal? Someone has code to share, please?
I'm not sure, but I suppose what we can see in Malcolm's charts must be it (the coloured volume bars looks like it);

He's the only one I remember to see posting esignal's charts here... send him a pm about it, or wait to see if someone else has it
  • #1,772
  • Jun 10, 2009 6:15pm Jun 10, 2009 6:15pm
Would someone please explain to me in VSA terms what exactly is going on on this chart, where prices are seen rising and the volume dropping?

Also, in chart pattern terms a head and shoulder pattern has clearly formed on this pair, can someone explain how this will play out in VSA terms?
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  • #1,773
  • Jun 10, 2009 6:25pm Jun 10, 2009 6:25pm
Quoting tonirai
I'm not sure, but I suppose what we can see in Malcolm's charts must be it (the coloured volume bars looks like it);

He's the only one I remember to see posting esignal's charts here... send him a pm about it, or wait to see if someone else has it

I git it coded .. does not work that well .. worst $200 i ever spent
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  • #1,774
  • Jun 10, 2009 6:40pm Jun 10, 2009 6:40pm
Quoting farizu
Would someone please explain to me in VSA terms what exactly is going on on this chart, where prices are seen rising and the volume dropping?

Also, in chart pattern terms a head and shoulder pattern has clearly formed on this pair, can someone explain how this will play out in VSA terms?

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  • #1,775
  • Jun 10, 2009 7:30pm Jun 10, 2009 7:30pm
Heres a chart showing some indicators programmed with most of the conditions of post 1765.

http://i44.tinypic.com/106ajok.jpg
  • #1,776
  • Jun 10, 2009 8:11pm Jun 10, 2009 8:11pm
Quoting lolpie
Here we go...I finished summarizing everything. It's 1.5 pages of VSA goodness.

I think it's a nice cheat sheet in case you forget a definition or something, but I'll be using it to just remember the different terms and see if I can find each one multiple times on my charts.

Hope this helps you guys...

Btw I didn't cover trend lines or s/r lines

P.S If someone can read it and tell me if I made a mistake somewhere I would appreciate it
Excellent job. This should help some of the newer people and older too I'll get a link up from the first post for this later this evening.
The trend always ends.
  • #1,777
  • Jun 10, 2009 8:15pm Jun 10, 2009 8:15pm
Quoting kc8flq
Heres a chart showing some indicators programmed with most of the conditions of post 1765.

http://i44.tinypic.com/106ajok.jpg

Nice. Are you planning on making it available for people to test?
The trend always ends.
  • #1,778
  • Jun 10, 2009 8:22pm Jun 10, 2009 8:22pm
Quoting capt1mc
Dutchy,

Thank you very much for the list. I moded it in notepad just so it's easier to read. I'll try this and see if it helps speed up the learning curve. By the way, what does 'nop' stand for?

As Dutchy said if anyone has anything to add or you find errors, please let us know.

Thanks for this.


PS RE the chat. Yes PM me regarding the mq4 files that I was looking for when you logon chat. Jitu will be happy. LOL

Thanks in advance.
The trend always ends.
  • #1,779
  • Jun 10, 2009 8:23pm Jun 10, 2009 8:23pm
Quoting ShamusFamous
Nice. Are you planning on making it available for people to test?

I recognize Better Volume and 3 Level ZZ Semaphor [which repaints -but still useful]
  • #1,780
  • Jun 10, 2009 9:45pm Jun 10, 2009 9:45pm
Forgot to put the helper ind on it too!http://i43.tinypic.com/okmr2v.jpg
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