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  • #461
  • Jun 1, 2009 7:15pm Jun 1, 2009 7:15pm
Quoting misterpipster
Yes Steve, I checked everything. All the settings are the same. I am baffled. I am using on both KG RS Group V1.1. I don't have to change the magic numbers in the second (new) instance of the ea do I? I you don't have any ideas then I will continue to poke around. Thanks.

Misterpipster
Mine just took a Weak xxxJPY, so everything is ok at my end. In my experience of posters here, the most common cause of the robot cancelling baskets through insufficient trades are:

 

  1. incorrect pair suffix.
  2. disallowed lot sizes
  3. ReverseNotCancel set to false
  4. incorrect maximum spread value

If all these settings are ok at your end, then the only thing I can suggest is the robot was trying to send a basket during a major news release, when the spreads were too wide. Only speculating, though.

  • #462
  • Edited 8:01pm Jun 1, 2009 7:39pm | Edited 8:01pm
Quoting misterpipster
Steve, or anyone,

I am demoing the latest version of Original and Range Trading EA, and I have been getting all "XXX/XXX basket cancelled - insufficient individual trades." The latest being USD, and JPY both giving me the alert. My original EA that I have been using for the last two weeks opened basket trades in all of them, which there was several. Can anyone tell me what might be happening? Also, I am up an additional 5.5% since the opening yesterday in my EA before the last upgrades from Steve and Kling. Not bad, eh?

misterpipster
Hi misterpipster,

Mine is working fine.
Normally when I get those error messages is when I turn off ReverseNotCancel.

The fixed version in a demo mode also did well, 7% up yesterday. But JPY baskets are pulling some DD last night. Waiting for the recovery.

This is one robust robot I tell you, no matter how you tweak it.

Edit: One more thing came to mind. Not sure your broker allows opposite trades (hedging). Which means that in the past, you only do one directional "buy" trades, so the broker system allows the many trades to go through. Now with fixed versoin, you have buy/sell mixed in a basket. Sometimes you have situation where you already have an open BUY position on one pair, but the EA tries to open another SELL trade on the same pair. This would be rejected by the broker system (that doesn't allow hedging). If you have more pairs being rejected this way, then you don't have sufficient pairs to trade.

Not 100% sure this is the case you are facing. However worth a look. The work around might be reducing your minimum basket to 3 (or 2 if you chose to).
  • #463
  • Jun 1, 2009 8:55pm Jun 1, 2009 8:55pm
Hi Kling,

I have BasketReverseNotCancel set to true always, so the problem is not that. I am using IBFX the same as the other version. Does IBFX not allow hedgeing now? I think this broker Steve uses. I will try to knock it down to 3 or 2 to see. Thanks to you and Steve.

Misterpipster
  • #464
  • Jun 1, 2009 9:07pm Jun 1, 2009 9:07pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
Mine just took a Weak xxxJPY, so everything is ok at my end. In my experience of posters here, the most common cause of the robot cancelling baskets through insufficient trades are:

 

  1. incorrect pair suffix.
  2. disallowed lot sizes
  3. ReverseNotCancel set to false
  4. incorrect maximum spread value

If all these settings are ok at your end, then the only thing I can suggest is the robot was trying to send a basket during a major news release, when the spreads were too wide. Only speculating, though.

Thanks Steve...

Those all check out too. I will try to figure it out.

MP
  • #465
  • Jun 2, 2009 9:06am Jun 2, 2009 9:06am
Quoting misterpipster
Hi Kling,

I have BasketReverseNotCancel set to true always, so the problem is not that. I am using IBFX the same as the other version. Does IBFX not allow hedgeing now? I think this broker Steve uses. I will try to knock it down to 3 or 2 to see. Thanks to you and Steve.

Misterpipster

IBFX no longer allows hedging. You have to open a subaccount to enter opposite trades, and I'm not sure if an EA can do that or not.

FXCM UK allows hedging ($2000 minimum for MT4) and FXDD still allows hedging.
  • #466
  • Jun 2, 2009 9:51am Jun 2, 2009 9:51am
Quoting dr_zeus
IBFX no longer allows hedging. You have to open a subaccount to enter opposite trades, and I'm not sure if an EA can do that or not.

FXCM UK allows hedging ($2000 minimum for MT4) and FXDD still allows hedging.
Dr. Zeus,

Thanks. I use IBFX. I don't understand why then, my Original and Range Trading EA (ORT) is trading like crazy (56%) in the last two weeks, while the latest version doesn't trade anything, not even one basket where the hedging is not an issue. I think Steve still uses IBFX. I guess someday I will find out the answer to this problem. Thanks for you help.

MP
  • #467
  • Jun 2, 2009 5:11pm Jun 2, 2009 5:11pm
I had a basket close earlier that left 3 of the 6 trades on the table. Luckily, I discovered the error before it could do any harm.

Other users of the KG Relative Strength Original and Range Trading EA might not be so lucky.

You must must must MUST download the latest version from post 1.

Sorry. This goes back to the changes I made to the order in which trades in a tp-hitting basket are closed, and the fact that I sent a faulty version of the code to Kling. This is not Kling's fault, and his bug fixes remain vital.

Many apologies, all, but download the latest and all should be well.

  • #468
  • Edited 5:35pm Jun 2, 2009 5:14pm | Edited 5:35pm
Quoting misterpipster
Dr. Zeus,

Thanks. I use IBFX. I don't understand why then, my Original and Range Trading EA (ORT) is trading like crazy (56%) in the last two weeks, while the latest version doesn't trade anything, not even one basket where the hedging is not an issue. I think Steve still uses IBFX. I guess someday I will find out the answer to this problem. Thanks for you help.

MP
This is bugging me. My ea has taken and part-closed three baskets since markets opened this week and is nearly +300.

I just had a thought. The EA is compiled here under build 223 of IBFX mt4 platform. Which build is yours?

  • #469
  • Jun 2, 2009 5:32pm Jun 2, 2009 5:32pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
This is bugging me. My ea has taken and part-closed three baskets since markets opened this week and is nearly +2000.

I just had a thought. The EA is compiled here under build 223 of IBFX mt4 platform. Which build is yours?

Steve,

The version that is working at 56.8% in the last 2 weeks, is Build 223, and the latest version is running on a Build 222. I will download another tradestation. I forgot how to download a new build. I can't find an update link on the charts anywhere, yet I know that I have updated before. Are you having as good luck on Kling's upgraded version? Thanks.

MP

Alan
  • #470
  • Jun 2, 2009 5:39pm Jun 2, 2009 5:39pm
Quoting misterpipster
Steve,

The version that is working at 56.8% in the last 2 weeks, is Build 223, and the latest version is running on a Build 222. I will download another tradestation. I forgot how to download a new build. I can't find an update link on the charts anywhere, yet I know that I have updated before. Are you having as good luck on Kling's upgraded version? Thanks.

MP

Alan
To download the latest IBFX demo setup, google InterbankFX to reach their home site and follow the links from there.

Still curious, though, as we are both using the same version IBFX mt4 build. I just wondered if you had updated to 224 and this was causing difficulty.

Post your set file, then we can all have a look.

  • #471
  • Jun 2, 2009 5:46pm Jun 2, 2009 5:46pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
To download the latest IBFX demo setup, google InterbankFX to reach their home site and follow the links from there.

Still curious, though, as we are both using the same version IBFX mt4 build. I just wondered if you had updated to 224 and this was causing difficulty.

Post your set file, then we can all have a look.

Steve,

Kling's upgraded version is on Build 222 on a tradestation that I had on the computer. It is not working. So, I am going to put it on a tradestation that I am going to download, with Build 224. The one that is working, your older version is Build 223. That one maybe screwing up, but I am almost 60% up for a couple of weeks. I will leave that one be, and get into Kling's upgraded version on a Build 224. Let's see how that works, ok? Thanks.

MP
  • #472
  • Edited 11:24am Jun 3, 2009 6:26am | Edited 11:24am
I have decided to release the source code for the Original and Range Trading robot. Users can download it from post 1. There are a couple of reasons for doing this:

 

  1. Soon, I shall be importing a library called OrderReliable that has much more robust trade opening/closing/modifying than the features offered by the mt4 platform. This library is open-source code, and one of the licence requirements is that code accessing it should also be open-source.
  2. I now understand that code can be de-compiled, so shysters wanting to rip-off this robot cannot be stopped.

The advantage to you guys is that the source code will compile on your machine and platform; this should take care if any build-related problems.

The robot is doing stunningly well. +500 since markets opened this week.

I have learned a lot recently. One useful feature is the ability to generate pseudo-random magic numbers. Once introduced into the robot, individual users will have a unique magic number, making it harder for the brokers to work out that lots of people are all using the same ea successfully. Coming soon.

  • #473
  • Jun 3, 2009 7:14am Jun 3, 2009 7:14am
Hi Steve,

Currently up 61% in 12 trading days. Not going to touch it (Build 223, IBFX). The latest upgrade on Build 224, your range preset. Had working since last night U.S., and 5 cancelled baskets, while in the same time, the former had several at different times than the later. Don't understand, the same range set, and the same settings. Are you still IBFX? Thanks.

Misterpipster
  • #474
  • Jun 3, 2009 8:27am Jun 3, 2009 8:27am
Quoting misterpipster
Hi Steve,

Currently up 61% in 12 trading days. Not going to touch it (Build 223, IBFX). The latest upgrade on Build 224, your range preset. Had working since last night U.S., and 5 cancelled baskets, while in the same time, the former had several at different times than the later. Don't understand, the same range set, and the same settings. Are you still IBFX? Thanks.

Misterpipster
Yep, if it ain't bust don't try to fix it is a good motto. Running total for the week is +603 now; that includes two weak JPY baskets today.

I just checked; my live account is build 223, so I am going nowhere near 224. Maybe if you let your new demo compile the source code it might do better. Comments in a private forum suggest that the guys at Metatrader are neither the brightest nor the best, so maybe they have gone in for a bit if fixing what aint bust in 224.

Yes, still with IBFX. I shall be until I have made enough to transfer to a broker that allows hedging; that will not be until I am no longer forced to trade nanolots through lack of trading capital. That time will arrive, and probably sooner rather than later.

  • #475
  • Jun 3, 2009 9:11am Jun 3, 2009 9:11am
Quoting SteveHopwood
Yep, if it ain't bust don't try to fix it is a good motto. Running total for the week is +603 now; that includes two weak JPY baskets today.

I just checked; my live account is build 223, so I am going nowhere near 224. Maybe if you let your new demo compile the source code it might do better. Comments in a private forum suggest that the guys at Metatrader are neither the brightest nor the best, so maybe they have gone in for a bit if fixing what aint bust in 224.

Yes, still with IBFX. I shall be until I have made enough to transfer to a broker...
Hi Steve,

Thanks, Steve. So, I will try to find a build 223 IBFX, and download Kling's upgrade version and see if that works for me. I just don't want to touch the one that is working. Thanks.

Misterpipster
  • #476
  • Jun 3, 2009 7:26pm Jun 3, 2009 7:26pm
how is the no hedging affecting this bot with ibfx now? don't you at times have opposing baskets open?
  • #477
  • Jun 3, 2009 11:05pm Jun 3, 2009 11:05pm
Steve. I was going to set up a demo with the daily cross but I am getting the Invalid Stop Loss error. I loaded 2.3 but still getting the error. I am running 224 MT4 build on Investechfx.com They have a high minimum stop loss of 20 pips. Could this be the problem.

They also have to have Ordersend without TP SL. That has to be sent with a ModifyOrder.

Dave R.
  • #478
  • Edited 2:51am Jun 4, 2009 2:47am | Edited 2:51am
Quoting SteveHopwood
I have decided to release the source code for the Original and Range Trading robot.

Royal, Steve
and OrderReliable is great as well.
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
junja
  • #479
  • Jun 4, 2009 5:20am Jun 4, 2009 5:20am
Quoting droland
Steve. I was going to set up a demo with the daily cross but I am getting the Invalid Stop Loss error. I loaded 2.3 but still getting the error. I am running 224 MT4 build on Investechfx.com They have a high minimum stop loss of 20 pips. Could this be the problem.

They also have to have Ordersend without TP SL. That has to be sent with a ModifyOrder.

Dave R.
About the invalid stop, I don't know. Check the usual suspects - make sure you have correct figures for your broker. Multiply the defaults by 10 for 5 digit wally-plonkers.

To send an order without tp sl, simply set the inputs to zero and turn off all the automation. That should work. You can always use mtpm with the auto insert tp and sl features turned on for the modify.

  • #480
  • Jun 4, 2009 5:43am Jun 4, 2009 5:43am
Quoting SteveHopwood
About the invalid stop, I don't know. Check the usual suspects - make sure you have correct figures for your broker. Multiply the defaults by 10 for 5 digit wally-plonkers.

To send an order without tp sl, simply set the inputs to zero and turn off all the automation. That should work. You can always use mtpm with the auto insert tp and sl features turned on for the modify.

Hi, Steve,
may be you need to check MarketInfo(MODE_STOPLEVEL) befor sending order ?
I'd tried EA and got 130 error, only by crosses as EURNZD, EURAUD etc. with high stoplevel.
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