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How to keep a trading system running while computer is turned-off?

  • #1
  • First Post: Oct 30, 2005 11:58am Oct 30, 2005 11:58am
I am trying to find a way to keep my CMS-fx trading system running while my computer is turned off. I tried hibernate (I'm using XP) but it did not work - any suggestions? The reason I am asking is I am now wanting to run the trading system on my dell home server (in my bedroom) but it is loud as hell and keeps me from sleeping (keeps me from hibernating)- any suggestions? (My bedroom is the only place I can locate the server).
  • #2
  • Oct 30, 2005 12:06pm Oct 30, 2005 12:06pm
Quoting mmills4x
I am trying to find a way to keep my CMS-fx trading system running while my computer is turned off. I tried hibernate (I'm using XP) but it did not work - any suggestions? The reason I am asking is I am now wanting to run the trading system on my dell home server (in my bedroom) but it is loud as hell and keeps me from sleeping (keeps me from hibernating)- any suggestions? (My bedroom is the only place I can locate the server).

Build a SFF 'puter...quiet & compact. I've several Shuttle's, would never go back to full towers.
  • #3
  • Oct 30, 2005 12:51pm Oct 30, 2005 12:51pm
Generally the noise comes from the fans - CPU and A/C. For the CPU you can try and attach a heatsink instead.

If the fans are old then they might be wearing out: they are after bits of plastic spinning on top of a motor after all - so you may need to replace them.

Or you could soundproof the room instead...

Quoting mmills4x
I am trying to find a way to keep my CMS-fx trading system running while my computer is turned off. I tried hibernate (I'm using XP) but it did not work - any suggestions? The reason I am asking is I am now wanting to run the trading system on my dell home server (in my bedroom) but it is loud as hell and keeps me from sleeping (keeps me from hibernating)- any suggestions? (My bedroom is the only place I can locate the server).

  • #4
  • Oct 30, 2005 1:38pm Oct 30, 2005 1:38pm
Because only other jack is in living room and I would have to string a line across the floor to access it.
  • #5
  • Oct 30, 2005 1:51pm Oct 30, 2005 1:51pm
I'll try the suggestion by IsoTonic to replace the fans. There is an upper and lower fan. The airflow from the top one is running strong, but airflow from the lower fan is much less. As for the trading system, I tried using standby mode after starting the trading system and when I logged back on the systems were still running. I'll keep testing to see if it continues to work.
  • #6
  • Oct 30, 2005 1:58pm Oct 30, 2005 1:58pm
Thanks for suggestions ElectricSavant (and everyone else), the other issue is that I live in a one bedroom apt. (at least until I become a 4x millionaire (ha, ha) - the only viable location is in the bedroom.
  • #7
  • Oct 30, 2005 4:24pm Oct 30, 2005 4:24pm
Instead of stringing a line across the floor, you can always get one of them wireless routers + a PCI wireless network card.

Plug the router to your jack, plug the card to your PC and off you go.. and if in the future you get a laptop, you can be wireless too..


Ken
Trade what you see, not what you believe.....
  • #8
  • Oct 30, 2005 4:31pm Oct 30, 2005 4:31pm
Quoting ElectricSavant
I have been up and down so far in my life, and I prefer the simple way...Cash is King!
I agree. Cash > properties. No wonder we are currency traders
  • #9
  • Oct 30, 2005 5:16pm Oct 30, 2005 5:16pm
It is possible to get a virtual W2K or XP machine housed at a service provider. You will login across the net via a remote connection client.

I did some research on this for host web servers. It's cheaper than you think, as the market for web hosting is extremely competitive (starts around $10/month). Google for 'W2K hosting'.

Silver
In trading you are only as smart as your dumbest mistake. - Ralph Vince
  • #10
  • Dec 12, 2007 1:30am Dec 12, 2007 1:30am
If the computer is actually "off", then no, not without a remote server.

Hosting is an option, but webhosting is different than server hosting. (Server hosting is MUCH more expensive.)

Another option if the computer doesn't get too hot (and the fans are in good condition) [I have one gaming computer that has 8 fans and the sound of the air moving is loud enough to keep a light sleeper awake] is to build a large cabinet and soundproof it (egg crates are cheap), cut holes and throw a couple of fans in to cycle the air.

WARNING! If you don't get enough circulation OR the computer already runs
too hot, you WILL DAMAGE YOUR COMPUTER.

Bear
Good pips to all ... bye
  • #11
  • Dec 12, 2007 1:47am Dec 12, 2007 1:47am
  •  TrevA
  • | Joined Oct 2007 | Status: my brain has a mind of its own | 166 Posts
Rent a virtual server for $99 per month, put your trading software onto the server and let it run.

I use Rackforce but you can find many companies who offer this service. They offer a whole range of servers with different configurations but the DDS 400W they offer should be more than sufficient.

http://www.rackforce.com/windows_vir...erver#dds400-w

A virtual server is much cheaper than buying or making your own computer and leaving it turned on in your study. It lets you run your system in a secure environment and allows you to manage the system as though you were sitting in front of the computer 24 hours a day.

Hope this helps.

TrevA
  • #12
  • Dec 12, 2007 3:11am Dec 12, 2007 3:11am
Quoting TrevA
Rent a virtual server for $99 per month, put your trading software onto the server and let it run.

I use Rackforce but you can find many companies who offer this service. They offer a whole range of servers with different configurations but the DDS 400W they offer should be more than sufficient.

http://www.rackforce.com/windows_vir...erver#dds400-w

A virtual server is much cheaper than buying or making your own computer and leaving it turned on in your study. It lets you run your system in a secure environment and allows you to manage the system as though you were sitting in front of the computer 24 hours a day.

Hope this helps.

TrevA
Can you run MT4 on a virtual server? How do you access it?

Pete
  • #13
  • Dec 12, 2007 5:43am Dec 12, 2007 5:43am
  •  TrevA
  • | Joined Oct 2007 | Status: my brain has a mind of its own | 166 Posts
Quoting peterM
Can you run MT4 on a virtual server? How do you access it?

Pete
It's really easy. You control and install MT4 by remote control. The Microsoft concept is called "Remote Desktop" and it works if you have Windows XP or Vista.

Using your home computer, you connect to your "Remote Desktop", log on and see the desktop of the remote computer. You log on, use your mouse, start menus, icons and everything just as if you were using the computer on your desk.

The Remote Desktop Connection software is pre-installed with Windows XP so to verify that you have it, use the following URL:

Start => All Programs => Accessories => Communications, => Remote Desktop Connection

Once you start the Remote Desktop software on your computer you enter the Virtual Server address running MT4, the connection is established you then can work with the Virtual Server to install MT4 or manage trading systems.

You should ask the Rackforce people about the details because they get asked questions like this every day.

TrevA
  • #14
  • Dec 15, 2007 4:45am Dec 15, 2007 4:45am
I wanted to do the same thing. In the early days I ran MT4 off a old laptop (Pentium M) but it would over heat every 3 days. Got a Mac Mini and ran Windows off Boot camp. It was $800 with tax and RAM upgrade(No Keyboard). It made no noise at all, but died in 9 days. I can't tell you how much I hate dealing with Apple people. Their all like that smug guy the their ads. So I ended up getting the HP slim line PC. I added some upgrades from their base model and it came out to be $750 with a keyboard and it is a better computer then the Mac mini. It's about the size off a college text book and runs like a champ. Put some electrically tape on the light's of the HP and I like a baby.
  • #15
  • Dec 25, 2007 10:29pm Dec 25, 2007 10:29pm
Why not try an umpc? It is small and quiet. I use it to run mine 24/7
  • #16
  • Last Post: Dec 8, 2017 2:17pm Dec 8, 2017 2:17pm
I highly recommend getting a VPS close to your broker. For most purposes you can get away with using a $20-40/mo VPS, and it will ensure that your strategy is operating 24/7 regardless of what happens to your computer, Internet connection or power supply. Plus you can login from anywhere and check up on things.
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