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  • #1,161
  • May 20, 2009 12:27pm May 20, 2009 12:27pm
Hi Richboy,

Thank you so much for sharing this great EA.

My problem is that my MT4 live account will only allow lot sizes of 0.1 or greater. It is working really well in my demo account, but often creates trades of 0.01 lot.

Is it possible to use this EA without it calculating small lots which will generate errors in live? Must I use a minimum lot size of 0.5 to be able to use the vForce rules?

Please explain the settings I must use so that micro lot sizes aren't calculated.

Thanks so much for all your help in this great thread!
  • #1,162
  • May 20, 2009 12:55pm May 20, 2009 12:55pm
Quoting erwal
Hi Richboy,

Thank you so much for sharing this great EA.

My problem is that my MT4 live account will only allow lot sizes of 0.1 or greater. It is working really well in my demo account, but often creates trades of 0.01 lot.

Is it possible to use this EA without it calculating small lots which will generate errors in live? Must I use a minimum lot size of 0.5 to be able to use the vForce rules?

Please explain the settings I must use so that micro lot sizes aren't calculated.

Thanks so much for all your help in this great thread!
The EA is supposed to calculate the lotsize as the minimum from the calculated size and the allowed mi size. So it shouldn't fault, I have to investigate.... thanks for the feedback.
However the next release has the parameter that allow to fix the lotsize without money managment.

PS what is your live broker? Thanks.
I'll send a bottle of wine to my first voucherer ;-)
  • #1,163
  • May 20, 2009 2:12pm May 20, 2009 2:12pm
Quoting richboy1972
The EA is supposed to calculate the lotsize as the minimum from the calculated size and the allowed mi size. So it shouldn't fault, I have to investigate.... thanks for the feedback.
However the next release has the parameter that allow to fix the lotsize without money managment.

PS what is your live broker? Thanks.

It is Alpari UK - a Classic account which won't allow lots smaller than 0.1.

Cheers for looking into this.
  • #1,164
  • May 21, 2009 7:31am May 21, 2009 7:31am
Quoting richboy1972
Feature one is simple to introduce, so you'll have it in the next release.
Feature two is already possible: Set TP1=10, TP2=0, TP3=0 and QuoteToCloseAtTP1=100, QuoteToCloseAtTP2=0, QuoteToCloseAtTP3=0.

So to speak is enough to set TP1=10 and QuoteToCloseAtTP1=100...
No matter TP2 and TP3 if you close all order at tp1.
Thanks.
Ciao Richboy,

When I tried this method - closing 100% of the trade at either TP1 or (TP1 & 2) - the EA failed with a "divide by zero error"

2009.05.21 13:25:11 2009.05.01 01:45 RichBoy1972vForce EURJPY,M15: zero divide

I love this EA, and I'm still trying to find a way of using it whereby the lots don't go smaller than 0.1 .....
  • #1,165
  • May 21, 2009 7:48am May 21, 2009 7:48am
Quoting erwal
Ciao Richboy,

When I tried this method - closing 100% of the trade at either TP1 or (TP1 & 2) - the EA failed with a "divide by zero error"

2009.05.21 13:25:11 2009.05.01 01:45 RichBoy1972vForce EURJPY,M15: zero divide

I love this EA, and I'm still trying to find a way of using it whereby the lots don't go smaller than 0.1 .....
You're right, SOOOORRY! I'm going to fix the bug now. Just 10/15 min and I'll release the 0.2 version with also minLotSize, maxLotSize, fixedLotSize.

Thanks for your patience.
I'll send a bottle of wine to my first voucherer ;-)
  • #1,166
  • May 21, 2009 8:08am May 21, 2009 8:08am
Quoting richboy1972
You're right, SOOOORRY! I'm going to fix the bug now. Just 10/15 min and I'll release the 0.2 version with also minLotSize, maxLotSize, fixedLotSize.

Thanks for your patience.
You are such a star. Thank you so much ... can't wait for Version 2!
  • #1,167
  • Edited 9:37am May 21, 2009 8:10am | Edited 9:37am
Hi all,
I just released the new version of the EA with some features added.
Now you can set the minimum and maximum lot size.
Moreover you can use a fixedlotsize, if you prefer (someone ask for both the way).
Then a BIG bug was fixed in the TP managment (Thanks to erwal...)
Now you can set TP1 = 100 and TP2=TP3=0 without error.

Thanks

PS I'm writing the user manual for who ask for that...

PS2 From this version I removed the requirement of 15M time frame (even I know that the vForceAlerts is for that..., but I'm having good signals in 1H TF.... with less losses..)
Attached File(s)
File Type: zip RichBoy1972vForce.zip   23 KB | 719 downloads
I'll send a bottle of wine to my first voucherer ;-)
  • #1,168
  • May 21, 2009 9:25am May 21, 2009 9:25am
please what time frame should i use for the backtest for eur/usd? Because the value am getting and curve is not encouraging at all. also is there s set file i can use that is very good please?
  • #1,169
  • May 21, 2009 9:43am May 21, 2009 9:43am
Quoting jebrills
please what time frame should i use for the backtest for eur/usd? Because the value am getting and curve is not encouraging at all. also is there s set file i can use that is very good please?
I'm having good results in backtests for the year 2008.
For the last month, as you said, not too good. So I'm studing a good filter to apply for avoid fake signals. When ready I'll post here...
Thanks
I'll send a bottle of wine to my first voucherer ;-)
  • #1,170
  • May 21, 2009 2:01pm May 21, 2009 2:01pm
Wow! This EA was fantastic in forward testing today. NO losses and it just kept printing money.

Part of today's file attached - all I could get in a screen shot.

All done on 15min timeframes, on a variety of currency pairs - best on anything with JPY. I kept tweaking the settings and half way through the day I changed to V0.2. I can post my latest settings if anyone is interested (although being a newbie, I don't know how to create a set file yet)

Quite frankly I don't think the settings would have mattered too much today - once the price broke through the pending orders, it was $$ all the way!

By the way - I agree it is pretty dire in back tests. It could be that I am pretty dire at doing them - I don't know how to get quality test data yet.

Richboy - I also spotted a few issues/problems I'll detail in later posts. I just wanted to share the good news first!

Happy pipping everyone
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  • #1,171
  • May 21, 2009 2:51pm May 21, 2009 2:51pm
Quoting erwal
Wow! This EA was fantastic in forward testing today. NO losses and it just kept printing money.
...
Thanks!

Quote

Richboy - I also spotted a few issues/problems I'll detail in later posts. I just wanted to share the good news first!

Waiting for the issues....
I'll send a bottle of wine to my first voucherer ;-)
  • #1,172
  • May 21, 2009 4:20pm May 21, 2009 4:20pm
Richboy, it still wont allow H1 time frame.
  • #1,173
  • May 21, 2009 4:27pm May 21, 2009 4:27pm
Quoting Alec
Richboy, it still wont allow H1 time frame.
Sure? Now it only displays a red warning message, but the EA is operating.
I'll send a bottle of wine to my first voucherer ;-)
  • #1,174
  • May 21, 2009 4:50pm May 21, 2009 4:50pm
OK - in the pursuit of trying to get this EA (V0.2) to work with lots no smaller than 0.1, I set the following parameters:

UseFixedLotSize=false (I don't think fixed lots are good MM)
FixedLotSizeToUse=0
UserMinLotSize=0.1
UserMaxLotSize=2

TakeProfit1Pips=10
TakeProfit2Pips=20
TakeProfit3Pips=0

QuoteToCloseAtTP1=10
QuoteToCloseAtTP2=80
QuoteToCloseAtTP3=0

The trades placed for each pending order of 2 lots were:
0.2, 1.44, 0.04, 0.26, 0.01, 0.04, 0.01 (which all adds up to 2.0 )

It is obvious that the EA calculates the TP2 percentage on the remaining balance (in this case, 80% of 90%, which makes 1.44). So, I guess to get 80% of the original lot, I need to specify TP2 as 89% (89% of 90% = 80%). Is that right?

If so, I can get round the 1.44 lot TP2 trade by changing the TP2 percentage to 89% to get a valid lot of 1.6.

But what about the remaining trades? The EA seems to ignore the UserMinLotSize parameter - or does it only work in conjunction with UseFixedLotSize=true?

The MaxLotSize seems to work independently, and correctly ....

Ideally, if UserMinLotSize=0.1, it would be great if the remaining percentage of the trade could follow the break-out in lots rounded to 0.1.

As a last resort, would it work if I set TP3 to 100% and specify a TakeProfit3Pips amount for the remaining 10% of the trade? I'm reluctant to do this, because it's good to follow the break-out as long as possible ...

Can you confirm whether I have set the parameters correctly, Richboy, for the UserMinLotSize?

(I also thought there was a stop loss problem, but it was me setting the parameters wrong! Oops )

Thanks for your ongoing support and all your hard work.
  • #1,175
  • May 21, 2009 5:03pm May 21, 2009 5:03pm
Quoting richboy1972
Sure? Now it only displays a red warning message, but the EA is operating.
So the message doesn't matter, it still works. OK
  • #1,176
  • May 21, 2009 5:47pm May 21, 2009 5:47pm
Hi Richboy, I have the EA on a $1000 Alpari US account for a week now, and I have not gotton any trades; I also still have it on a demo account and it makes multiple trades everyday with lots of success; I was just wondering if you know why it is not trading on my real account? Thanks
  • #1,177
  • May 21, 2009 7:13pm May 21, 2009 7:13pm
Hi Rich boy, nice work buddy! one thing on the last version that you posted is when i try and put it on a time frame other than the 15 minute it gives on error message on the chart and it sends an error message to my email because i have it notify me when it sets a trade, can you fix that?

Thanks much!

Lucky
  • #1,178
  • Edited 10:28pm May 21, 2009 9:29pm | Edited 10:28pm
Quoting erwal
Wow! This EA was fantastic in forward testing today. NO losses and it just kept printing money.

Part of today's file attached - all I could get in a screen shot.

All done on 15min timeframes, on a variety of currency pairs - best on anything with JPY. I kept tweaking the settings and half way through the day I changed to V0.2. I can post my latest settings if anyone is interested (although being a newbie, I don't know how to create a set file yet)

Quite frankly I don't think the settings would have mattered too much today - once the price...
Erwarl,

That would be great if you could post your settings. :-)

You can save a set file when you are changing the ea's parameter/settings. There should be 2 buttons next to the settings that say Load and Save. Choose save after you have finished changing all of the settings to your liking. Once you have saved your settings, they will be located somewhere similar to this:

Crogram Files\YOUR BROKER NAME\experts\presets

HTH! :-)
  • #1,179
  • May 22, 2009 12:19am May 22, 2009 12:19am
Quoting erwal

QuoteToCloseAtTP1=10
QuoteToCloseAtTP2=80
QuoteToCloseAtTP3=0

The trades placed for each pending order of 2 lots were:
0.2, 1.44, 0.04, 0.26, 0.01, 0.04, 0.01 (which all adds up to 2.0 )

It is obvious that the EA calculates the TP2 percentage on the remaining balance (in this case, 80% of 90%, which makes 1.44).
The percentage to close are calculated with this code:

internalQuoteToCloseAtTP1 = QuoteToCloseAtTP1;
if(QuoteToCloseAtTP1<100){
internalQuoteToCloseAtTP2 = (100/(100-QuoteToCloseAtTP1)) * QuoteToCloseAtTP2;
}else{
internalQuoteToCloseAtTP2 = 0;
}
if((QuoteToCloseAtTP1+QuoteToCloseAtTP2)<100 ){
internalQuoteToCloseAtTP3 = (100/(100-QuoteToCloseAtTP1-QuoteToCloseAtTP2)) * QuoteToCloseAtTP3;
}else{
internalQuoteToCloseAtTP3 = 0;
}

so the EA have to get 1.6 and not 1.44 at TP2 (as you can see from the code). I don't understand what'a going on.... let me investigate.
Thanks.
I'll send a bottle of wine to my first voucherer ;-)
  • #1,180
  • May 22, 2009 2:23am May 22, 2009 2:23am
Quoting bnbb2004
Erwarl,

That would be great if you could post your settings. :-)

You can save a set file when you are changing the ea's parameter/settings. There should be 2 buttons next to the settings that say Load and Save. Choose save after you have finished changing all of the settings to your liking. Once you have saved your settings, they will be located somewhere similar to this:

Crogram FilesYOUR BROKER NAMEexpertspresets

HTH! :-)
Hi Bnbb - thanks for the info about set files. I have changed all the settings again since yesterday (trying to force the EA to produce larger lot sizes) - but the settings I used yesterday were in my earlier post. The only additional info you need is that I had MoveSLtoBEafterTP1 = True (which is why I set TP1 to a small value).

So far, the EA is doing really well in testing today too!

Good luck!
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