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  • #861
  • Apr 16, 2009 12:38pm Apr 16, 2009 12:38pm
Biggz.

Yeah, I think there's something defiantly wrong with mine. I replaced the template and indicator to the newest ones and its still showing me green bars only. I know rob repeated over and over again that it might be an old file, so I reinstalled metatrader all at once and put the files in then and its still showing me green bars and no signal at the 6:45 point. Heres a picture of my chart. Any other ideas why it won't work correctly for me. I think some other people around here are having the same problem also.
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  • #862
  • Apr 16, 2009 1:04pm Apr 16, 2009 1:04pm
Hi Richboy1972!!,,,,,If you could set up the ea to buy half position on the on the first buy/sell signal and and the balance of the position on the retracement signal would be awesome!!,,,Is that possible? thx
  • #863
  • Apr 16, 2009 5:47pm Apr 16, 2009 5:47pm
Good night everyone....
here my first ea.
I continue to upgrade the code until winning.
Actually it opens a pending orders following the vforce rules with 1 hour expiration time (4 bars).
The opens seems work fine... i'm trying to do a good exit...
SL and TP are automatic chosen using the vforce' SL rule and choosing a consequent TP. Lot size are automatic using RiskPercent...
Work with 4 and 5 digits brokers....
Suggestion greatly appreciate ;-))

You all can test it on DEMO account (for now) downloading from :
http://www.massimogreco.it/public/RichBoy1972vForce.zip

SOURCE CODE. Put it on your expert dir....
(Sorry for my English..)
I'll send a bottle of wine to my first voucherer ;-)
  • #864
  • Apr 16, 2009 5:51pm Apr 16, 2009 5:51pm
Ashur.

Here is the correct template and the Indicator for VFE Signal Only.
Delete the one you are using and upload this instead.
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File Type: tpl VFE_SignalsOnlyTrades.tpl   70 KB | 627 downloads
File Type: ex4 vForceEdge.ex4   30 KB | 756 downloads
  • #865
  • Apr 16, 2009 9:39pm Apr 16, 2009 9:39pm
Quoting Maturi_otoko
When retrace signal appears, should I make stoploss "-10pip" based on which price?
My original money management rules (MM) are in post 730.
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...02#post2650802

  1. TP1=50 TP2=100 TP3=150 (35:35:30)
  2. SL intially placed 35 pips above/below MA6.
  3. SL is moved to BE when +35 is reached.
  4. SL is then trailed 35 pips above/below MA6.

VFE is an experiment so everyone decides on their own MM rules and if they find something that works well they are welcome to post it here. RD

  • #866
  • Apr 16, 2009 9:51pm Apr 16, 2009 9:51pm
Quoting JoelD
I have been trading VFE "signals only" using my MIG account, and so far it is really working well. I notice I am getting more signals than with IBFX and the signal bar is showing more volume. should this make such a diference that the VFE system is not viable with another broker's data feed?
JoelD, thanks for your comments. My live account is also with MIG. I agree MIG volumes are much higher than IBFX and this certainly changes the number of signals. There are also other significant differences in the MIG data feed.

My current VFE volume filter settings on IBFX demo are

  1. HideBuysLowVolume=100
  2. HideSellsLowVolume=200

These settings are not correct for MIG or Alpari (for example) that both report much higher volumes than IBFX, so the thresholds need to be set higher. What correct value for these two brokers I do not know.

In my experience I have never been satisifed with the charting provided by my own broker so I have always used a different source for charting. I expect this to continue in all of my future trading.

  • #867
  • Apr 16, 2009 10:19pm Apr 16, 2009 10:19pm
Quoting Biggz
Ashur.

Here is the correct template and the Indicator for VFE Signal Only.
Delete the one you are using and upload this instead.
Thanks Biggz I figured it out though. I went into inputs and changed HideBuysAboveMa6 and HideSellsBelowMA6 to false and changed the colors my self and now I'm getting the same signals as you and Robdee are. So if anyone else is having troubles loading the template of VFE Signals Only, just follow what I did and you'll be on the same track.

Ashur
  • #868
  • Apr 16, 2009 10:24pm Apr 16, 2009 10:24pm
Hi Richboy,,,,,I have loaded your ea ,,,,,Running on demo,,,ibfx,,,I am looking forward to the results,,,thx
  • #869
  • Apr 17, 2009 1:00am Apr 17, 2009 1:00am
robdee Thanks

I read past thread.
But it can't be understood, so I question.
Please teach the meaning that sets 200 to "HideSellsLowVolume" though "HideBuysLowVolume" is 0.
I think that Volume necessary for filter is changed by the trading hour.
For instance, Volume is few at the Tokyo time compared with the NY time and London time.
I think that it is effective filter if Volume is changed by the trading hour.
But good Signal is overlooked at time zone that Volume is few when Volume is fixed.
How about changing Volume used in filter by trading hour?
I think that I should experiment on the optimum value.
  • #870
  • Apr 17, 2009 1:33am Apr 17, 2009 1:33am
Quoting Maturi_otoko
But it can't be understood, so I question.
Please teach the meaning that sets 200 to "HideSellsLowVolume" though "HideBuysLowVolume" is 0.
HideSellsLowVolume=200

This means if the volume of a sell signal candle is less than 200 then it will not be displayed. The idea here is low volume time periods give less reliable signals so I filter them out.

To see the volume for a candle open the Data Window or see [V: ] in the status bar.

Volume filters are explained in this post...
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...me#post2626556

I have also decided to set HideBuysLowVolume=100 (not 0) because I don't want to see the lowest volume buy signals either.

My filter settings are deisgned to work with the IBFX data feed only.
  • #871
  • Apr 17, 2009 1:46am Apr 17, 2009 1:46am
Nice and easy open uncongested price action down the channel.

VFE highlighting the key decision points along the way...

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  • #872
  • Apr 17, 2009 2:42am Apr 17, 2009 2:42am
Quoting piptalk
Hi Richboy,,,,,I have loaded your ea ,,,,,Running on demo,,,ibfx,,,I am looking forward to the results,,,thx
This night my ea pump my account from 2900USD to 3080USD ;-))) Very luky night ;-)))

Now i'm going to improve the exit ....
I'll send a bottle of wine to my first voucherer ;-)
  • #873
  • Apr 17, 2009 3:25am Apr 17, 2009 3:25am
Quoting robdee
Nice and easy open uncongested price action down the channel.

VFE highlighting the key decision points along the way...
I took a image of chart in the same period as you.
It is quite different from your image.

The image above is a setting of defalt.
The image below is the following setting.
HideSellLowVolume=0
HideBuysLowVolume=0
HideBuysAboveMA6=false
HideSellsBelowMA6=false
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  • #874
  • Apr 17, 2009 3:39am Apr 17, 2009 3:39am
Hi all,

first, thanks for your job.

Maturi, i have same chart than Rob on IBFX with default settings
  • #875
  • Apr 17, 2009 4:55am Apr 17, 2009 4:55am
Quoting Maturi_otoko
It is quite different from your image.
Maturi, yes different servers will have different candles therefore different signals. We have seen this difference with Force5, vForce, and vForceEdge. ForexJedi decided the best way was to select IBFX as our standard reference for all Force systems.

If you want to have the same signals as me then you can install IBFX for charting so you can see the same data that I am using...

IBFX reference data feed setup post 2078
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...postcount=2078
  • #876
  • Apr 17, 2009 5:45am Apr 17, 2009 5:45am
Hi Rob,

sorry for my poor english, I just realise that using 200SMA to filter lot of fake signals.

The rules is :

Vforce
and
200 SMA to close

for LONG
---------
-200SMA is on uptrand
-take the vforce blue only signal candle when is above 200SMA

for SHORT
---------
-200SMA is on downtrand
-take the vforce red only signal candle when is below 200SMA

Please refer to the screenshot for today trade you will know what i mean.
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  • #877
  • Apr 17, 2009 9:17am Apr 17, 2009 9:17am
Quoting sony001
Hi Rob,

sorry for my poor english, I just realise that using 200SMA to filter lot of fake signals.

The rules is :

Vforce
and
200 SMA to close

for LONG
---------
-200SMA is on uptrand
-take the vforce blue only signal candle when is above 200SMA

for SHORT
---------
-200SMA is on downtrand
-take the vforce red only signal candle when is below 200SMA

Please refer to the screenshot for today trade you will know what i mean.
Sony
Hi. Your english may be bad but my eyesight is even worse. Where is the 200SMA on the chart and also, have you looked at any prior days/weeks to see whether this is applicable? One day may not be sufficient to conclude.

Having said that, your concept seems to be VF in the direction of the trend? Is that right?
  • #878
  • Apr 17, 2009 9:33am Apr 17, 2009 9:33am
Quoting vnathwani
Sony
Hi. Your english may be bad but my eyesight is even worse. Where is the 200SMA on the chart and also, have you looked at any prior days/weeks to see whether this is applicable? One day may not be sufficient to conclude.

Having said that, your concept seems to be VF in the direction of the trend? Is that right?

I have back tested using Vforce and 200SMA for march. seems it quite profitable by using both.

the 200SMA is the Purple line above the candle.
  • #879
  • Apr 17, 2009 10:30am Apr 17, 2009 10:30am
Quoting richboy1972
This night my ea pump my account from 2900USD to 3080USD ;-))) Very luky night ;-)))

Now i'm going to improve the exit ....
Hi Richboy,

I tested your EA and i notice it follows Vforce signal rather than VEdge?
just want to confirm if your EA is for Vforce or Vedge.

my setup: loaded on VEdge indicator template.
e.g
EURUSD triggers 1.30430 (17042009 GMT 11.15).
this is seen in normal vforce 15m.
however in VEdge i don't see this signal.

rgds
  • #880
  • Apr 17, 2009 10:51am Apr 17, 2009 10:51am
can someone tell me which is the best system? vforce or vforceedge (VFE). I am so confused which system to test.

And, Can someone tell me where to get the both systems with a template and if there is a pdf ?
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