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  • #170,521
  • Apr 13, 2009 2:13pm Apr 13, 2009 2:13pm
Quoting musicman007
I am also looking for a bounce - at worst off 99.50 to resume the upward move in the channel as per chart.

Been in Eu since 1.32 and similar for GU - now both with tightish stops overnight. S&P Fut is still showing upward movement - whilst overall is a good move - what happens next here is key for any real recovery.

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I have odd feeling that tokyo is going to take the uj ball off the 100 line back up 70 pips and gj ..well if that happens may see 150
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  • #170,522
  • Apr 13, 2009 2:14pm Apr 13, 2009 2:14pm
Quoting mamufx
AUD/JPY is look good to sell while waiting GJ to reach the top.....
yep, cofirmation would be a close below 4H gann [IMHO]
  • #170,523
  • Apr 13, 2009 2:18pm Apr 13, 2009 2:18pm
Quoting malcolmb14
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...ass&refer=home

what a crock of the brown stuff .... have investors not read up on mark to market? banks have no losses reported on books any more if they are willing to hold a 2 trillion dollars loss till it is worth the $10 they paid for it. They do not have to report it is a loss. .. they report it is an asset ... great so the feds came up with another great scheme to collapse the market. This one is even better than credit default swaps
LOL yes, when you are running a business, and no showing your expenses, what left is INCOME = Profit..
B/S. bro bs.. Im telling you as In Soviet ERA... SAME!!!!

[no offence to anyone PLZ, just figurative speach ]
  • #170,524
  • Apr 13, 2009 2:23pm Apr 13, 2009 2:23pm
Quoting vinesh2
Whats up Piters! Say hello to everyone in the group. Looks like EU has broken to the upside mate. My wish came true for now! Send a Ninja icon to Cliff on my behalf
= Good Job!
  • #170,525
  • Apr 13, 2009 2:24pm Apr 13, 2009 2:24pm
They will show up the losses in 2012 when the stock market collapse..




Quoting malcolmb14
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...ass&refer=home

what a crock of the brown stuff .... have investors not read up on mark to market? banks have no losses reported on books any more if they are willing to hold a 2 trillion dollars loss till it is worth the $10 they paid for it. They do not have to report it is a loss. .. they report it is an asset ... great so the feds came up with another great scheme to collapse the market. This one is even better than credit default swaps
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  • #170,526
  • Apr 13, 2009 2:25pm Apr 13, 2009 2:25pm
Quoting rgitt05
They will show up the losses in 2012 when the stock market collapse..

I have eventual target dj 3500
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  • #170,527
  • Apr 13, 2009 2:30pm Apr 13, 2009 2:30pm
Quoting Piters
yep, cofirmation would be a close below 4H gann [IMHO]
yep I agreed with you bro.....
  • #170,528
  • Apr 13, 2009 2:31pm Apr 13, 2009 2:31pm
Quoting malcolmb14
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...ass&refer=home

what a crock of the brown stuff .... have investors not read up on mark to market? banks have no losses reported on books any more if they are willing to hold a 2 trillion dollars loss till it is worth the $10 they paid for it. They do not have to report it is a loss. .. they report it is an asset ... great so the feds came up with another great scheme to collapse the market. This one is even better than credit default swaps
I used to be a Finance Director, its the oldest game in the world, when you are going to have a bad year - have a very bad year, write everything off you can possibly do - even write your good assets down. Then - next year you are home and dry and just watch those recovery bonuses kick in and everyone pat each other on the back and say "didnt we do well " !

Surely the Auditors will pick this up I hear you say ? Well, as the majority are fresh out of Uni and dont know their arse from their elbows I wouldnt count on it. Their bosses are too worried about losing a client to really kick up a fuss - so soon it will be business as usual.
  • #170,529
  • Apr 13, 2009 2:37pm Apr 13, 2009 2:37pm
Quoting musicman007

Surely the Auditors will pick this up I hear you say ? Well, as the majority are fresh out of Uni and dont know their arse from their elbows I wouldnt count on it. Their bosses are too worried about losing a client to really kick up a fuss - so soon it will be business as usual....
funny what you are saying.. sadly.. but very true... [from some accounting backgroung]
  • #170,530
  • Apr 13, 2009 2:40pm Apr 13, 2009 2:40pm
Gerald Celente Predicts Economic Armageddon by 2012

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Quoting malcolmb14
I have eventual target dj 3500
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  • #170,531
  • Apr 13, 2009 2:41pm Apr 13, 2009 2:41pm
Quoting musicman007
I used to be a Finance Director, its the oldest game in the world, when you are going to have a bad year - have a very...
but in this situation and where banks are concerned, if they do that and make it look worse than it is, their shares will drop to almost nothing, youll get a run on the bank and itll be buried deep in sh*t again. best thing they can do is report good profits, shares will fly giving banks more money to lend and things should improve from there. i guess thats the theory behind it at least. and along with that, the pound will soar like an eagle and we can all be rich
  • #170,532
  • Apr 13, 2009 2:42pm Apr 13, 2009 2:42pm
Quoting musicman007
I used to be a Finance Director, its the oldest game in the world, when you are going to have a bad year - have a very bad year, write everything off you can possibly do - even write your good assets down. Then - next year you are home and dry and just watch those recovery bonuses kick in and everyone pat each other on the back and say "didnt we do well " !

Surely the Auditors will pick this up I hear you say ? Well, as the majority are fresh out of Uni and dont know their arse from their elbows I wouldnt count on it. Their bosses are too worried...

not even that ,.. they are allowed to not report losses under new mark to market ruling if they are willing to hold losses till they are worth what they paid for them

at least the somali pirates come at you with gun boats and heavily armed you know what to expect .. the feds just come with sneaky ways to help the smart money steal the poor unsuspecting investors money
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  • #170,533
  • Apr 13, 2009 2:44pm Apr 13, 2009 2:44pm
Patience bulls
Trade what you see, not what you think.
  • #170,534
  • Apr 13, 2009 2:49pm Apr 13, 2009 2:49pm
Quoting malcolmb14
not even that ,.. they are allowed to not report losses under new mark to market ruling if they are willing to hold losses till they are worth what they paid for them

at least the somali pirates come at you with gun boats and heavily armed you know what to expect .. the feds just come with sneaky ways to help the smart money steal the poor unsuspecting investors money
Somalis only want a few million. Obama ransom 12 trillion. Look at it this way. Every time you see Obama, Geithner, Frank, Summers, and company on the TV, just picture Bernie Madoff's mug on theirs.
  • #170,535
  • Apr 13, 2009 2:51pm Apr 13, 2009 2:51pm
Quoting chase
Somalis only want a few million. Obama ransom 12 trillion. Look at it this way. Every time you see Obama, Geithner, Frank, Summers, and company on the TV, just picture Bernie Madoff's mug on theirs.
Why so much dislike of Obama? imho he is a pawn...
or are you the fan of that web site: http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm
???
  • #170,536
  • Apr 13, 2009 2:53pm Apr 13, 2009 2:53pm
Licence to PRINT !!
  • #170,537
  • Apr 13, 2009 2:56pm Apr 13, 2009 2:56pm
Quoting ewokuk
but in this situation and where banks are concerned, if they do that and make it look worse than it is, their shares will drop to almost nothing, youll get a run on the bank and itll be buried deep in sh*t again. best thing they can do is report good profits, shares will fly giving banks more money to lend and things should improve from there. i guess thats the theory behind it at least. and along with that, the pound will soar like an eagle and we can all be rich
The game is - tell the people its bad, then tell them its really bad - the Govt - ie you and me, cover the really bad stuff, we inject more money into the economy ( which you and I pay for later in our taxes ) , the economy recovers, the Banks etc return to make good profits - and we continue to pay high taxes for the rest of our lives.
  • #170,538
  • Apr 13, 2009 2:59pm Apr 13, 2009 2:59pm
..... or as we say in England " at least Dick Turpin wore a mask" !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Turpin

  • #170,539
  • Apr 13, 2009 3:00pm Apr 13, 2009 3:00pm
Quoting pipsbull
Why so much dislike of Obama? imho he is a pawn...
or are you the fan of that web site: http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm
???
Right in the middle of a short right now and don't want to screw up this thread.

I am self-employed with 2 kids - that's the short answer.
  • #170,540
  • Apr 13, 2009 3:03pm Apr 13, 2009 3:03pm
Beware of hyperinflation...Taxes will go up after all the failed stimulus..

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Quoting musicman007
The game is - tell the people its bad, then tell them its really bad - the Govt - ie you and me, cover the really bad stuff, we inject more money into the economy ( which you and I pay for later in our taxes ) , the economy recovers, the Banks etc return to make good profits - and we continue to pay high taxes for the rest of our lives.
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