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  • #921
  • Mar 30, 2009 11:39pm Mar 30, 2009 11:39pm
everything else has been gone over a hundred times, but allow that I have never created an EA --- wouldnt have a clue as to how to do it in fact.

if someone wants to check my trades, i will deal with management directly as I wont be trolled into displaying them for google to have forever and it will be a legal, non disclosure contract between myself and the owner of this site.

once that is done, there is no need of continuing my showing my results, as i will show more than a week going back, but once my bona fides are shown and proven, I will not be trolled again !

thnx -- its just business and nothing personal, but thats the way it has to be since they are MY figures and i do not wish them to be part of googles database !

mp


Quoting billye
sorry that I said will be sitting on the wall watching, but I was too curious so I searched 'mp6140' in google,
where previously angkor.beer mentioned 'mp6140' = mparker,
and by sandpipper and mparker reply it is confirmed mp6140 is same individual as mparker.

this is what I think to be true up till now:
1. no one has shown fact that mparker has done or plan to do commercial on this site up till now, things are in the mouth, so he did not violate rule#3.
on the other hand, mp seems to be helping newb here in his thread, and did some level of...
  • #922
  • Edited Mar 31, 2009 1:00am Mar 30, 2009 11:49pm | Edited Mar 31, 2009 1:00am
sorry that I said will be sitting on the wall watching, but I was too curious so I searched 'mp6140' in google,
where previously angkor.beer mentioned 'mp6140' = mparker,
and by sandpipper and mparker reply it is confirmed mp6140 is same individual as mparker.

this is what I think to be true up till now:
1. no one has shown fact that mparker has done or plan to do commercial on this site up till now, things are in the mouth, so he did not violate rule#3.
on the other hand, mp seems to be helping newb here in his thread, and did some level of contribution by answering questions in rookie board

2. the guy angkor.beer(PipPimper) yesterday seems to have something to say,
he stopped talking yesterday in mp's thread which it is not clear if he was banned posting there,
if he back login today and speak here, we'll see what the fact he can show if luckily he comes back again

3. from the google search result of 'mp6140'
#1(et) had claim that via mp managed account, someone named acdspit00 (newb) who believe in mp's capability has lost money (9k out of 10k) in Y2006
case claim http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showth...6&pagenumber=1
conversation with mp (scroll to end of this page) http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showth...postid=1251453
#3(tw) [edit] this guy is same person acdspit00 as #1, who lost in mp managed account
he mentioned a 'high win rate' hedge strategy by mp that was written to EA by someone else, but that is not related to this loss.
#2(bp) is the guy PipPimper, did not know what is the case, or if it's same case

I did not find a 2nd case in google that claim loss by mp's managed account,
we know fx is a by-chance world, so if the only case is a unfortunate loss by unpreditable market maybe it is okey?
  • #923
  • Edited Mar 31, 2009 12:24am Mar 30, 2009 11:52pm | Edited Mar 31, 2009 12:24am
mp: you did not break any rule by facts what we have till now, if you're willing to autheciate your claimed profits through site owner that is great.
you may also want to clarify if managing accounts for newbs students here is your agenda... or all you want is to help by sharing knowledge.

Quoting mparker

if someone wants to check my trades, i will deal with management directly as I wont be trolled into displaying them for google to have forever and it will be a legal, non disclosure contract between myself and the owner of this site.

mp
  • #924
  • Edited 9:28am Mar 31, 2009 12:36am | Edited 9:28am
Quoting billye
mp: you did not break any rule by facts what we have till now...
Are you certain? What happened to...

Quoting Angler
hi all..

Statement be Mparker

"i cannot take anyone with under a net worth of 1 million, and i dont think that includes many on this site."

Does this not put you in breach of RULE 3 of the forum..

" If you make money by servicing Forex traders in any way, shape, or form, or have any commercial agenda whatsoever, you are NOT permitted to post in the forums regardless of whether your posts are promotional or not."
  • #925
  • Mar 31, 2009 2:01am Mar 31, 2009 2:01am
Hi all..


I dont know what Twee willl do...or even if he cares at all..


But Guys ...stop adding words to the rules...

"in any way, shape, or form, or have any commercial agenda whatsoever"

Do you see any $ amounts specified in those words.....I dont think so..

Its totally up to Management here..
  • #926
  • Mar 31, 2009 2:11am Mar 31, 2009 2:11am
Quoting Angler

But Guys ...stop adding words to the rules...

"in any way, shape, or form, or have any commercial agenda whatsoever"

Do you see any $ amounts specified in those words.....I dont think so..

Its totally up to Management here..
Yep, completely agree.
  • #927
  • Mar 31, 2009 6:07pm Mar 31, 2009 6:07pm
I have absolutely no intention of managing any newb account for any reason whatesoever, period and end of statement ! I am here to teach and share what I know about the markets and to try to keep as many newbs out of the 95% wash out rate as possilbe, although im seeing a whole LOT of more experienced traders picking up pointers at this point !

if management cares, he/she will sign a non-disclosure agreement drawn up by my lawyer (I have a feduciary responsibility to my clients one must understand !) and management can tell you yea or neigh on my average day pip count, which you will find far exceeds 350 pips daily.

But i find this whole discussion rather pointless --- we are here to help, and what makes me a good teacher is my real life experience in this field --- the rules, obviously intended to prevent commercial enterprises from swamping the board actually PREJUDGES ones reasons for helping and is , by its very nature, under all laws that I am aware of, essentially illegal !

certainly not a situation worthy of much fuss, I have repeatedly asked that I be observed (and 44K views with NO complaints is a pretty good record so far !) and then judgements drawn from fact, not discussion of what "might" be be made at that point.

I am here to teach --- I can go anywhere to do this, but since the advantages of increased membership and views creates an advantage in ad revenues for the site owner, until such time as you get ONE complaint, I would simply enjoy being not talked about or judged in any way ---- THAT is the only fair way !

mp

Quoting billye
mp: you did not break any rule by facts what we have till now, if you're willing to autheciate your claimed profits through site owner that is great.
you may also want to clarify if managing accounts for newbs students here is your agenda... or all you want is to help by sharing knowledge.
  • #928
  • Mar 31, 2009 6:17pm Mar 31, 2009 6:17pm
In the rules, as interpreted by legal counsel, its states AGENDA

I HAVE NO COMMERCIAL AGENDA which automatically releases me from the rules against such !

READ your rules, and now let us get on with the marching band !

mp
  • #929
  • Mar 31, 2009 6:32pm Mar 31, 2009 6:32pm
Hi all...


Agenda is only 1 word in that Rule ,,the others are...

"If you make money by servicing Forex traders in any way, shape, or form,"

I only mention it as you like to keep coming here and continueing your arguement.

As I said previous.....Its up to Twee what he wants to do...not anyone posting on the forum...
  • #930
  • Edited 7:46pm Mar 31, 2009 6:39pm | Edited 7:46pm
Quoting mparker
.....the rules, obviously intended to prevent commercial enterprises from swamping the board actually PREJUDGES ones reasons for helping and is , by its very nature, under all laws that I am aware of, essentially illegal !....
Then you must not know too much about law... whether management decides to enforce Rule 3 now, later, or never against you is up to management, but Rule 3 is definitely not illegal... FF is a private company...they can ban you for any reason or even for no reason if they want, and they can ban without telling the reason why, and their actions would be legal. No governmental agency is bringing criminal charges against you, so the presumption of innocence does not apply. There is no statutory or common law prohibiting your banning for any or no reason. FF is not a governmental entity so constitution does not apply, and they could even discriminate against you if they want, they are not your employer and this is not housing, or restroom facilities of a business, although some would beg to differ. You simply are not protected by any law, as the law deems this kind of protection unimportant.
So don't press your luck with your subtle legal threats. Last time that happened somebody got banned real good. Ask your highly paid New York lawyer to provide you with the law that would prevent FF from banning you and post a link to the law here, that is, if you can find such law exists.
  • #931
  • Mar 31, 2009 8:34pm Mar 31, 2009 8:34pm
actually, while its certainly more tongue in cheek and not worthy of the response you gave it, private companies on the internet are coming more and more under the present laws of the country, and you can ding dong bet that the present administration will make that even more so

private internet companies are constantly being forced to hand over records and are finding themselves in courts more and more each day as the law catches up with the technology.

BUT, why on earth do a bunch of adult "seniors" stand around a water cooler and continue this type of silliness ? What, contained in what i do irritates you enough to have this conversation continue for days and days ?

One would think that arms would be opened to another with experience and the desire to help others, which i presume (aside from trading) is one of the things you peeps do based on your "senior" status --- giving back brings untold rewards that are just worth too much to give up doing.

To be very honest, I CANNOT understand the interest in me, let alone the comments !




Quoting wwwin
Then you must not know too much about law... whether management decides to enforce Rule 3 now, later, or never against you is up to management, but Rule 3 is definitely not illegal... FF is a private company...they can ban you for any reason or even for no reason if they want, and they can ban without telling the reason why, and their actions would be legal. No governmental agency is bringing criminal charges against you, so the presumption of innocence does not apply. There is no statutory or common law prohibiting your banning for any or no reason....
  • #932
  • Mar 31, 2009 8:37pm Mar 31, 2009 8:37pm
well, by the very definition and words i read, i make NO money by servicing FOREX TRADERS !

without getting touchy about the matter, clients are NOT TRADERS, in any way, shape or form !

YOUR OWN RULES state that I do not fit into that classification --- I DO NOT SERVICE TRADERS !

mp




Quoting Angler
Hi all...


Agenda is only 1 word in that Rule ,,the others are...

"If you make money by servicing Forex traders in any way, shape, or form,"

I only mention it as you like to keep coming here and continueing your arguement.

As I said previous.....Its up to Twee what he wants to do...not anyone posting on the forum...
  • #933
  • Mar 31, 2009 8:59pm Mar 31, 2009 8:59pm
Just b/c they have to respond to a subpeona does not mean at all that the banning is protected by law. They are entirely different animals.. I did not say that laws do not apply to internet companies...I said that there is no protection under the law if FF bans you, b/c there are no laws protecting that, but this has nothing to do with FF being internet or not, that's all. I actually have no interest in you...it's just that you keep posting here, constantly proclaiming your accomplishments, when nobody is really attacking you here except maybe one or two postersthat have not posted anymore, so I am beginning to feel that you are using this thread for more promotion of your other threads. Also, now you say that it was tongue in cheek about the Rule 3 being illegal...how are we supposed to know when you are posting tongue in cheek or not?

Actually, I dont understand the administration remark, as the present one allowed you back when the prior had banned you. So if anything, the current one appears more lenient.

Quoting mparker
actually, while its certainly more tongue in cheek and not worthy of the response you gave it, private companies on the internet are coming more and more under the present laws of the country, and you can ding dong bet that the present administration will make that even more so

private internet companies are constantly being forced to hand over records and are finding themselves in courts more and more each day as the law catches up with the technology.

BUT, why on earth do a bunch of adult "seniors" stand around a water cooler and continue...
  • #934
  • Mar 31, 2009 9:00pm Mar 31, 2009 9:00pm
hi all..


well as I said MP.....Its all up to Twee....you have made it clear you work in some sort of investment industry...so its up to Management here...that seems to have gone missing in action so to speak...of late..
  • #935
  • Mar 31, 2009 9:11pm Mar 31, 2009 9:11pm
Quoting Angler
hi all..


well as I said MP.....Its all up to Twee....you have made it clear you work in some sort of investment industry...so its up to Management here...that seems to have gone missing in action so to speak...of late..
Exactly, Shakes was banned for just stating that he managed money, nothing more nothing less..That is why I am perplexed at MP's innuendo that magagement is not giving him a fair deal,, it's actually the other way around, in my opinion, they have been more lenient to MP than to some other traders, some of which were actually quite good and helpful, as Angler has mentioned.
  • #936
  • Mar 31, 2009 9:18pm Mar 31, 2009 9:18pm
Quoting mparker
well, by the very definition and words i read, i make NO money by servicing FOREX TRADERS !

without getting touchy about the matter, clients are NOT TRADERS, in any way, shape or form !

YOUR OWN RULES state that I do not fit into that classification --- I DO NOT SERVICE TRADERS !

mp
Well you are only reading the part that may or may not apply to you. How about this part "... or have any commercial agenda whatsoever, you are NOT permitted to post in the forums regardless of whether your posts are promotional or not". Don't you think that that is quite broad??
  • #937
  • Mar 31, 2009 9:36pm Mar 31, 2009 9:36pm
Quoting wwwin
I actually have no interest in you...it's just that you keep posting here, constantly proclaiming your accomplishments, when nobody is really attacking you here except maybe one or two postersthat have not posted anymore, so I am beginning to feel that you are using this thread for more promotion of your other threads. Also, now you say that it was tongue in cheek about the Rule 3 being illegal...how are we supposed to know when you are posting tongue in cheek or not?

while ive toned down the humor because newbs dont get the point easily if i go on like a borscht belt comic, I can never fully remove myself from that situation as the world is too funny a place NOT to have fun with it !

and since thats my manner, doubtful ill find one of those little thingies with a tongue firmly ensconced inside its cheek, so as to alert those who dont understand.

as far as promoting my thread here, why on earth would i wish that --- a few senior traders are NOT my interest at all - -- WHAT can i teach you ?

I came here because there were some negative posters (one at least who is now asking MANY questions on the thread, but thats the way life goes) and I ALWAYS respond when i see negativity --- Its a deeply ingrained part of my culture !

Actually, I dont understand the administration remark, as the present one allowed you back when the prior had banned you. So if anything, the current one appears more lenient.

Whatever --- here i be and wanted so much to be greeted as a long lost brother in arms, capable of leaping tall buildings in a single bound and never being seen in the same room with Clark Kent !

but NO --- treated as a hopeless hobo, dirty and unwashed, I am pilloried by what should be my friends --- remarks about running me out of town on a rail made consistently, rules quoted and what is left for me, but to rail out at my tormentors, like Quasimoto in chains !

AH --- if only peace reigned supreme and the lion lay down with the lamb and we all went camping to sing Kumbaya around the communal warmth of a grand campfire, swapping war stories about forex.

WOULDNT THAT BE A GRAND WEEKEND INDEED ?

enjoy and trade well my friends, and i MEAN "my friends !"

mp
  • #938
  • Mar 31, 2009 9:39pm Mar 31, 2009 9:39pm
and i thought we could be swell friends

I HAVE NO AGENDA, commercial, philosophical, psychological or word count (well, i would like to become a senior and sit on the golden stage with youse peeps, but you keep pushing me nearer and nearer to the sharks )

I guess you must define AGENDA and then see if it indeed fits ME !



Quoting wwwin
Well you are only reading the part that may or may not apply to you. How about this part "... or have any commercial agenda whatsoever, you are NOT permitted to post in the forums regardless of whether your posts are promotional or not". Don't you think that that is quite broad??
  • #939
  • Mar 31, 2009 9:41pm Mar 31, 2009 9:41pm
SOMEWHERE over the rainbow, we can be freinds, but i have NEVER stated that MANAGEMENT is not giving me a fair shake ---- from all i can see, they are being very nice about this.

it was the posters HERE ---- THIS thread, that were discussing me, not management, and if i am going to be discussed, i want to be part of the discussion !



Quoting wwwin
Exactly, Shakes was banned for just stating that he managed money, nothing more nothing less..That is why I am perplexed at MP's innuendo that magagement is not giving him a fair deal,, it's actually the other way around, in my opinion, they have been more lenient to MP than to some other traders, some of which were actually quite good and helpful, as Angler has mentioned.
  • #940
  • Mar 31, 2009 9:47pm Mar 31, 2009 9:47pm
WWWIN

let us be friends -- let us smoke the pipe of peace filled with an excellent English/Balkan mixture that excites the palate and prepares one for the excellent Chai tea that we serve here and sit before the fire and speak of recent adventures, ladies who loved too well and of the cars, manufactured in the 20's and 30's that brought passion to the soul and a smile to the lips.

let us forget petty differences and concentrate on the unifying warmth of humanity and honor as the worlds indifferences drift slowly away !

let us become bosum buddies, for the remainder of the short number of days we have left on this global spaceship we call Earth !

Rise up and throw off your shackles --- you have nothing to lose but your slavery (whooops --- thats a different topic !)

peace and love WWWIN --- to a glorious and harmonious world that we can walk in, side by side !

I LOVE YOU MAN !
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