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  • #121
  • Mar 18, 2009 2:07pm Mar 18, 2009 2:07pm
Quoting ShamusFamous
You're not kidding. I was on the long side of that insane bar... and here I was upset that I didn't trade last night LOL Hope you guys caught the moves too. UJ was a nice short too.

See you in the chat.
looks like the SM is having its way with me on the FAZ I am guessing this 'good news' is what they are using as a long trap. I will keep adding on the dips.
  • #122
  • Mar 18, 2009 3:00pm Mar 18, 2009 3:00pm
Quoting sunpost
looks like the SM is having its way with me on the FAZ I am guessing this 'good news' is what they are using as a long trap. I will keep adding on the dips.

I just buried head in sand ....lol....

will look at faz again in 6 months when it is 200
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  • #123
  • Mar 18, 2009 3:21pm Mar 18, 2009 3:21pm
Quoting malcolmb14
I just buried head in sand ....lol....

will look at faz again in 6 months when it is 200
good point. it was not a day trade...but it still chaps me to manhandled by the smart money
  • #124
  • Mar 18, 2009 3:38pm Mar 18, 2009 3:38pm
Quoting sunpost
good point. it was not a day trade...but it still chaps me to manhandled by the smart money

not sure what this volume means if anything . ... but it is the highest volume since inception of FAZ . Will have to see what tomorrow holds.

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  • #125
  • Mar 18, 2009 3:58pm Mar 18, 2009 3:58pm
Quoting malcolmb14
not sure what this volume means if anything . ... but it is the highest volume since inception of FAZ . Will have to see what tomorrow holds.

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Do you think the XLF chart would provide a better view of the financials? the 3X nature of FAZ might be misleading.
  • #126
  • Mar 18, 2009 4:37pm Mar 18, 2009 4:37pm
Quoting sunpost
Do you think the XLF chart would provide a better view of the financials? the 3X nature of FAZ might be misleading.

news from feds they are going to throw yet more money 300 mill into buying treasuries and mortgage to support the housing market. .....

wonder how this will act on the financial market in the near future
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  • #127
  • Mar 18, 2009 6:15pm Mar 18, 2009 6:15pm
Quoting malcolmb14
news from feds they are going to throw yet more money 300 mill into buying treasuries and mortgage to support the housing market. .....

wonder how this will act on the financial market in the near future
i am probably wrong, but i interpret it as the FED running out of ammo--hard to lower the rates, not that low rates would help. The news outlets will call it mustard seeds and we are saved. See page 102 in the book that i still need to read 18 times
  • #128
  • Mar 19, 2009 9:04am Mar 19, 2009 9:04am
Without the tradeguider software you will be spinning top in mud,the software lays out what is deemed ultra high volume ,high volume low volume,without this software you will only be estimating what you think is very high volume.Without the proper tools can a tradesman do his work?Before asking all these foolish question get Master the markets book and read it,you cannot lean VSA on this forum,it is too high for you.
  • #129
  • Mar 19, 2009 9:16am Mar 19, 2009 9:16am
Quoting Lessformore
Without the tradeguider software you will be spinning top in mud,the software lays out what is deemed ultra high volume ,high volume low volume,without this software you will only be estimating what you think is very high volume.Without the proper tools can a tradesman do his work?Before asking all these foolish question get Master the markets book and read it,you cannot lean VSA on this forum,it is too high for you.
MMM.. i guees i missed something in the tradeguider volume..
can you explain..whats the different ?
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  • #130
  • Mar 19, 2009 9:28am Mar 19, 2009 9:28am
Quoting lillelise
MMM.. i guees i missed something in the tradeguider volume..
can you explain..whats the different ?
you do not need tradeguider .... to do vsa ... I have it and rarely use it

tradeguider is an esignal feed .... so there is no tradeguider volume

esignal feed is same as interbank just about .. so no need to pay $200 per month to get esignal ....

you must read master the markets though several times to get the hang of vsa .....

on gj 5 min we had strong wide spread candle on high vol = possible hidden selling , then meandered to top = no buyers interested , then a no demand bar close to the top then a reversal after effort to rise ... and tradeguider did not pick UP one of these sets ups ......it showed me the long but missed the 80 pips down
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  • #131
  • Mar 19, 2009 11:04am Mar 19, 2009 11:04am
Hi, Guys I am a big fans of VSA, and i trade only using TradeGuider software. Nice to know that there is a thread for this. Thanks..and keep up the good work.
  • #132
  • Mar 19, 2009 11:58am Mar 19, 2009 11:58am
Hi jnktrader! While I don't use tradeguider and ask some foolish questions, this thread has been great for learning vsa. keep your eye on that malcolmb14 guy, he is pretty sharp


@malcolm Looks like you were right in the chat the other night about waiting a day for the financials. <fist in air>Damn that FED news announcement! Anyway, it should be interesting to see the vsa after the witching.
  • #133
  • Mar 19, 2009 12:25pm Mar 19, 2009 12:25pm
Quoting sunpost
Hi jnktrader! While I don't use tradeguider and ask some foolish questions, this thread has been great for learning vsa. keep your eye on that malcolmb14 guy, he is pretty sharp


@malcolm Looks like you were right in the chat the other night about waiting a day for the financials. <fist in air>Damn that FED news announcement! Anyway, it should be interesting to see the vsa after the witching.

yes that news was designed for the pros to load up on FEZ ...lol .... 200 here we come !!! (now I am just dreaming) .. at this point break even would be nice. I think we will get a better market direction once triple witching has passed.
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  • #134
  • Mar 19, 2009 12:51pm Mar 19, 2009 12:51pm
My sleep schedule is backwards so I missed a lot of nice trades the past couple of nights.

Hope you guys are doing better.
The trend always ends.
  • #135
  • Mar 19, 2009 1:05pm Mar 19, 2009 1:05pm
wow, my dreams are too conservative, i was only shooting for 100 on faz


sleep? what's that Shamus? I had to catch up on some other work, so i have been taking it light with the trades this week.
  • #136
  • Mar 19, 2009 1:22pm Mar 19, 2009 1:22pm
i was asked by fxchi to post this ... i mentioned the set up in post 130

btw tradeguider is a great software but did not pick anything up on a 5 min when all this was going on

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  • #137
  • Mar 19, 2009 1:28pm Mar 19, 2009 1:28pm
wanted to share this with all my vsa buddies

grey lines are high volume areas up to 8 days ago .... amazing how they act as support / resistance .. tesll me where the buyers and sellers are almost

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  • #138
  • Mar 19, 2009 1:42pm Mar 19, 2009 1:42pm
  •  FxChi
  • | Joined Dec 2007 | Status: Cash Rules Everything Around Me | 749 Posts
Thanks malc for posting that up. I was reading it right, but for some reason had wrong entry or maybe needed a larger stop. I took the short on that green bar you have marked as no demand low volume. The close of that upbar I entered with a stop right above that high and it took me out. Where would you have entered? Would you have waited for it to actually turn before entering?
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  • #139
  • Mar 19, 2009 1:45pm Mar 19, 2009 1:45pm
Quoting malcolmb14
wanted to share this with all my vsa buddies

grey lines are high volume areas up to 8 days ago .... amazing how they act as support / resistance .. tesll me where the buyers and sellers are almost

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Looks like most buyers are at: 136.30
And most sellers are at 137.80ish
The trend always ends.
  • #140
  • Edited 3:39pm Mar 19, 2009 2:24pm | Edited 3:39pm
IQ is less expansive but seems that esignal is better...

I had heard, I do not remember where, that esignal ultimately did not work very well, seems this claim is not correct.

Lubo.

P.s. Is better spend money to get a good DATA FEED service and learn VSA that spend to get tradeguider...

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Comment: compare it with malcolm one above, volume of stopping volume bar after big red down bar is biggher on esignal...the same on next stopping vol after retesting the previus low on the same level about 136,40, look the big green volume on malcolm chart that there isn't.
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