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  • #81
  • Mar 18, 2009 10:06pm Mar 18, 2009 10:06pm
Quoting turbo
OJEN JAL XUYILO NO YA TOJE NE TAM! YA V NEW YORKE
Good for you! Where are you from originnaly? I'm not XUYILO ok? Watch your words....
  • #82
  • Mar 18, 2009 10:08pm Mar 18, 2009 10:08pm
Made 3 positive trades in a row(in and out) with no problems, I'm not drinking. Ronald Raygun should look at this.
  • #83
  • Mar 18, 2009 10:14pm Mar 18, 2009 10:14pm
  •  onu
  • | Joined Feb 2006 | Status: superior senior member | 746 Posts
Quoting soeasy69
I bet you did... lol...

Here is 2 EA's from the MT4 Library Enjoy maybe these 2 EA's will work better than the one posted in here...

soeasy69

The PROphet is for the M15 and the other is for the M5 scalper... EURUSD only... Enjoy folks...

Lets have a few beers!!! lol
i tested the prophet over a long period of time...wasted time too
All these "perceptron" style EAs dont work, no matter what, same with DIMON
  • #84
  • Mar 19, 2009 12:55am Mar 19, 2009 12:55am
Turbo could you add a TP option to this EA and also an opening and closing time option?
  • #85
  • Mar 19, 2009 1:07am Mar 19, 2009 1:07am
I back tested this EA, optimum TP (manually) is 100pips - ( for 5 digit brokerage)
Life is short..so learn from your mistakes.
  • #86
  • Mar 19, 2009 1:18am Mar 19, 2009 1:18am
Quoting turbo
manually
hi turbo,can u teach me how to use EAs on an MT4 platform. i basically do trend trading but i want to add programming dimension to to my trading toolboox.do u think the program runs even with the ststem off?thanks for helping out here
Regards, Quest4pips.... Patience matters a lot here
  • #87
  • Mar 19, 2009 7:23am Mar 19, 2009 7:23am
Hi turbo

I use dimon, with SL=50 TP=10 TP set manually, and it has placed 10 trades between 7am and 11am

9 winners
1 looser

why I have 1 looser was that I forgot to set the TP and it came up to +14 before turning.

If you have anything like the manual with which one can understand and set all the x x x... that we have there, I'll be OK with it

Don't bother yourself about the self-acclaimed forex gods that litter every thread in this forum. What they dont understand they simply abuse.

I'll keep you updated at the end of the day

thanks

kos
John 3:16 - From THIS love no power on earth can me sever.
  • #88
  • Mar 19, 2009 7:30am Mar 19, 2009 7:30am
I have to admit, so far 5 trades all winners.
  • #89
  • Mar 19, 2009 8:31am Mar 19, 2009 8:31am
I checked the code briefly. I found out it is based on neural network theory. It calls function perceptron() and based on its return value it does sell or buy. Perceptron is the simplest neural network with one neuron http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perceptron

This function perceptron() calculates its value based on Bill Williams' Accelerator/Decelerator oscillator, it takes values from curent bar, 7, 14 and 21 bars back, multiplies them by X numbers (x1, x2, x3, x4) and sums the resultsing value. That is return value of the perceptron. I do not know how did he get x1 - x4 values, probably by some learning process of the perceptron, made by some other SW.

Then if perceptron() < 0, it goes long, if >0 then it goes short.

There are some rules of trailing stop etc, not sure how exactly it works. I did not have time to analyze. Although this is interesting code, I am not sure it is profitable EA. I will test it for a while, but backtest results show it is a total loser. Backtests are not always right, so maybe it is worth to test for a while.
  • #90
  • Mar 19, 2009 9:08am Mar 19, 2009 9:08am
I hate EA's.

The EA made 4 trades on my IBFX live account (VERY small balance) last night. I placed no TP, and randomly left and returned to my screen to close out the account when in profit (when I checked in at various times, the account was always in profit).

Results?

+70 pips
+40 pips
+165 pips
+30 pips

That small account? More than tripled its value!

Pure luck? Maybe so, just the same...I'm beginning to like EA's! LOL

Be careful...YMMV.

Thanks for sharing, Turbo! I had some trouble understanding when to trade this EA, and when to shut it off. Please clarify.
  • #91
  • Mar 19, 2009 9:11am Mar 19, 2009 9:11am
unless we know what the variables x1-x4 are for, we cannot know what we are dealing with
John 3:16 - From THIS love no power on earth can me sever.
  • #92
  • Mar 19, 2009 9:22am Mar 19, 2009 9:22am
  •  onu
  • | Joined Feb 2006 | Status: superior senior member | 746 Posts
Quoting hotstorm
I checked the code briefly. I found out it is based on neural network theory. It calls function perceptron() and based on its return value it does sell or buy. Perceptron is the simplest neural network with one neuron http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perceptron

This function perceptron() calculates its value based on Bill Williams' Accelerator/Decelerator oscillator, it takes values from curent bar, 7, 14 and 21 bars back, multiplies them by X numbers (x1, x2, x3, x4) and sums the resultsing value. That is return value of the perceptron....

as i mentioned i worked with this kind of EAs and they just dont make profit.
For optimization u have to set all X to 1-200 and SL from 30-100. The settings u find than reflect just what was good in the past. But forward tested these setting didnt work...not even the sophysticated ones with X and Y perceptrons
  • #93
  • Mar 19, 2009 9:35am Mar 19, 2009 9:35am
The time will tell, we just have to try. and keep posting the results good or bad.
  • #94
  • Mar 19, 2009 10:04am Mar 19, 2009 10:04am
Why????????

soeasy69

It did 2 nice buys just before this sell???

soeasy69
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  • #95
  • Mar 19, 2009 10:26am Mar 19, 2009 10:26am
  •  onu
  • | Joined Feb 2006 | Status: superior senior member | 746 Posts
Quoting soeasy69
Why????????

soeasy69

It did 2 nice buys just before this sell???

soeasy69

it sold bc the system setting is completely random
  • #96
  • Mar 19, 2009 10:30am Mar 19, 2009 10:30am
Big Thank to Turbo who share this EA for us..

Before any thing Turbo said he just try it in 3Days ...
and discover it Profitable up to now ..

he did not try to Sell it and he did not tell us untrue ( like i try it long time)

he just saw it is good and like to share it with us to give us chance to try it in demo..

he is really GOOD MAN and he share for care. i thank him 1000's time.

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I cant understand or even imagine why some member shout with him and want distroy his thread ... I cant understand that !!!!!
Never sell @ lower upward channel unless breacked and vise versa .
  • #97
  • Mar 19, 2009 10:35am Mar 19, 2009 10:35am
Quoting hotstorm
......
There are some rules of trailing stop etc, not sure how exactly it works. I did not have time to analyze. Although this is interesting code, I am not sure it is profitable EA. I will test it for a while, but backtest results show it is a total loser. Backtests are not always right, so maybe it is worth to test for a while.

i like this post .. hotstorm dose not agree with this system as profitable but he did not shout with the Turbo .. he use kind words..

let all of us be great in our communication .. we r here for one reason which is "winning more than lossing"
Never sell @ lower upward channel unless breacked and vise versa .
  • #98
  • Mar 19, 2009 10:41am Mar 19, 2009 10:41am
  •  onu
  • | Joined Feb 2006 | Status: superior senior member | 746 Posts
Quoting WedWed
Big Thank to Turbo who share this EA for us..

Before any thing Turbo said he just try it in 3Days ...
and discover it Profitable up to now ..

he did not try to Sell it and he did not tell us untrue ( like i try it long time)

he just saw it is good and like to share it with us to give us chance to try it in demo..

he is really GOOD MAN and he share for care. i thank him 1000's time.

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I cant understand or even imagine why some member shout with him and want distroy his...

U dont understand why some are got angry? Its why u dont understand the danger of randomness in this system...or do u know how perceptors work???

Only desperate holy grail searchers are happy with such kind of threads...
  • #99
  • Mar 19, 2009 10:41am Mar 19, 2009 10:41am
I try to use nice words like Wedwed is recommending.

This EA replaces to flip a coin, there is no trading logic behind it.

I have it since yesterday on one screen, so I know what I'm talking about.


What Onu wants to explain is that it is extremly dangerous to trade it on a live account and I second that.
  • #100
  • Mar 19, 2009 11:04am Mar 19, 2009 11:04am
Quoting onu
U dont understand why some are got angry? Its why u dont understand the danger of randomness in this system...or do u know how perceptors work???

Only desperate holy grail searchers are happy with such kind of threads...

My friend Onu i apprecciate that u want to save us from jumbing to EA in live account.. Thanx for that .. but still i said there is many good way to make objection for bad thing.
Never sell @ lower upward channel unless breacked and vise versa .
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