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  • #1,021
  • Mar 11, 2009 6:52pm Mar 11, 2009 6:52pm
Thatwasme;

Allow me to extend my sincere apology to you as well. I wasn't at all serious about you not sharing it or upset with you, I do recognize the MANY contributions you have made in this thread and many others as well. I certainly understand your position and I respect it. For those who know me well here, they know that I like to joke around with folks (Taomql4 and I have very similar personalities I can tell) and humor dominates my world. The downside to forums is that with text, that laughter, voice inflection, smiles, winks, etc. doesn't always come through so it's easy to misinterpret things posted and as humans we are defensive in nature. So please pardon any bad feelings I may have inadvertently imposed upon you. I'm really not a big bad mean wolf at all, I promise, and I won't bite you.

Sidenote: I won't push the issue but I do have a question for everyone reading this - How can you call something intellectual proprietary property when you pretty much publish the whole forumla in your book? I'll have to ask my brother about that one, he's an attorney. Heck, I'll buy the book to and have it coded myself if that's all it takes.
- Bowen (a.k.a. Wolf)
  • #1,022
  • Mar 11, 2009 7:03pm Mar 11, 2009 7:03pm
Quoting BlackWolf
Eagle, I spent the better part of the day searching the net for it and can't find much other than it being available for other non-MT4 platforms. I've pinged several genius coders on this forum and others and nobody seems to have it. The only one that I think does is Thatwasme but it doesn't appear he wants to share it. Maybe Shamous and his crew of programmers can whip one up for us? It's definitely an important one.

I actually found some scripts on forex tsd, search for AA$-Ord Volume.mq4 or AA$-Ord Force.mq4 in google (I didn't save the link) I found it immediately by searching for ord volume mt4 in google.

I haven't tried them yet so not sure that they work.

I personally don't like using scripts but it may be what you're looking for.
The trend always ends.
  • #1,023
  • Mar 11, 2009 7:04pm Mar 11, 2009 7:04pm
Quoting BlackWolf
Thatwasme;

Allow me to extend my sincere apology to you as well. I....
This thread moves too quick and I'm tired but what happened?
The trend always ends.
  • #1,024
  • Mar 11, 2009 7:16pm Mar 11, 2009 7:16pm
Quoting ShamusFamous
This thread moves too quick and I'm tired but what happened?
Post #996 forward.
- Bowen (a.k.a. Wolf)
  • #1,025
  • Mar 11, 2009 7:18pm Mar 11, 2009 7:18pm
#867 NYSE1982 Mar 10, (38 hours ago)


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Hi all,
Just stumbled onto this thread which is fascinating and makes great reading for those interested in price/volume cause and effect.
I agree with the very recent sentiments that on post 1 we should have a summary, like a checklist, of if vol up, spread up - action to be taken etc etc.
To help, I've put together a very simple spreadsheet with the headings and each possible outcome using volume, spread,Hl and Hc. I feel that since nyse has a very good grasp of vsa, if he could just fill in the action and meaning column, this would give everybodyvery simple and clearly defined rules on playing vsa. The Basic section could be printed out and kept in front of you, which would be immense help to newbies. The advanced section has further inputs on HL/HC movement.
Additionally, this would help greatly to clarify and agree rules for those developing helpful indicators such as pattern recognition, or EA's.
Being a excel document, modifications could easily be made and posted on post1 as we learn more and develop this great methodology.

good point, only small problem i don't have excel on my laptop so i can only view that info..it won't let me update it..let me see if i can save it as google doc though...ill

I thought this was a good idea, just curious if this is going to happen, if the excel issue is the stumbling block, I can transpose the info into a word document. I guess it is your call nyse1982






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  • #1,026
  • Mar 11, 2009 8:07pm Mar 11, 2009 8:07pm
Quoting BlackWolf
Post #996 forward.
Thank you sir. Did you find the ord files ok?
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  • #1,027
  • Mar 11, 2009 8:15pm Mar 11, 2009 8:15pm
Quoting Hal2611
#867 NYSE1982 Mar 10, (38 hours ago)


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[i]Hi all,
[i][size=1]Just stumbled onto this thread which is fascinating and makes great reading...
im working on this, just give me sometime...
  • #1,028
  • Mar 11, 2009 8:25pm Mar 11, 2009 8:25pm
Quoting ShamusFamous
Thank you sir. Did you find the ord files ok?
I did indeed (and a whole bunch of other goodies too) but haven't run the scripts yet on those, have you yet?

Funny, earlier I Googled "Ord Volume Indicator" and then "MT4 Ord Volume" and I got a lot of hits for non-MT4 platforms but didn't see this one. Maybe I overlooked it.
- Bowen (a.k.a. Wolf)
  • #1,029
  • Mar 11, 2009 8:56pm Mar 11, 2009 8:56pm
Quoting BlackWolf
I did indeed (and a whole bunch of other goodies too) but haven't run the scripts yet on those, have you yet?

Funny, earlier I Googled "Ord Volume Indicator" and then "MT4 Ord Volume" and I got a lot of hits for non-MT4 platforms but didn't see this one. Maybe I overlooked it.
No not yet.

Yeah sometimes on searches the goog can be finicky. I find when searching for a metatrader specific indicator putting in mt4 after the name or type is better than just the word indicator.

It seems to put you in the right spot with minimal false results.
The trend always ends.
  • #1,030
  • Mar 11, 2009 10:57pm Mar 11, 2009 10:57pm
calculating ord volume in metatrader and
force which is basically how much volume was used to move price a certain distance.
To use these scripts you will need to create 2 vertical bars on your chart using the vertical line and name them ov1 and ov2, ov1 will be the vertical line on the recent bar and ov2 will be on the earlier bar, this way you pick your swing high/low and then run these 2 scripts.
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 AA$-Ord Force.mq4   1 KB | 921 downloads
File Type: mq4 AA$-Ord Volume.mq4   1 KB | 955 downloads
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  • #1,031
  • Mar 11, 2009 11:28pm Mar 11, 2009 11:28pm
Quoting lillelise
calculating ord volume in metatrader and
force which is basically how much volume was used to move price a certain distance.
To use these scripts you will need to create 2 vertical bars on your chart using the vertical line and name them ov1 and ov2, ov1 will be the vertical line on the recent bar and ov2 will be on the earlier bar, this way you pick your swing high/low and then run these 2 scripts.
hey just curious can you post a screen sh ot of this, b/c i did what you explained and for some reason I'm not getting anything up on my screen..
  • #1,032
  • Mar 12, 2009 12:03am Mar 12, 2009 12:03am
Quoting nyse1982
hey just curious can you post a screen sh ot of this, b/c i did what you explained and for some reason I'm not getting anything up on my screen..
They are scripts so they go in scripts folder. These are the same files I found but I hate scripts so didn't bother with them yet.
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  • #1,033
  • Mar 12, 2009 12:59am Mar 12, 2009 12:59am
guess some of the code guys can make it auto..
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  • #1,034
  • Mar 12, 2009 1:10am Mar 12, 2009 1:10am
NYSE: You are right that Malcolm has provided great insight to this thread.

So can you explain why I got a PM from him saying

"NYSE has banned me from the VSA thread it seems as I am not able to get in there and the only explanation I have is that i have been banned by the moderator..."

I hope this is just a FF problem and is not true? Please can you confirm this.
  • #1,035
  • Mar 12, 2009 1:14am Mar 12, 2009 1:14am
Quoting lillelise
guess some of the code guys can make it auto..
okay so I saved it into my script folder and I setup orv1 & orv2, but still Im not getting any volume info?? What am I oding wrong?
  • #1,036
  • Mar 12, 2009 1:15am Mar 12, 2009 1:15am
Quoting Willowgal
NYSE: You are right that Malcolm has provided great insight to this thread.

So can you explain why I got a PM from him saying

"NYSE has banned me from the VSA thread it seems as I am not able to get in there and the only explanation I have is that i have been banned by the moderator..."

I hope this is just a FF problem and is not true? Please can you confirm this.
must be an error...this is an open thread...I'll double check that ..but im quite sure this is working fine...
  • #1,037
  • Mar 12, 2009 1:19am Mar 12, 2009 1:19am
Quoting nyse1982
must be an error...this is an open thread...I'll double check that ..but im quite sure this is working fine...
If you read earlier comments I explained the reasoning I'll ban people if they post other techniques other then VSA and if they bash other members, period..Otherwise the room is open for everyone..
  • #1,038
  • Mar 12, 2009 1:19am Mar 12, 2009 1:19am
ov2 is the line that schall be on left side of chart.
i have setup hot keys...right click the indi in script set hotkey ...like ctrl-1 and for other ctrl-2 ..when done that just place the vertical lines in top/bottom where you wanna mesure...and press ctrl-1 or 2 at same time...number will appear..
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  • #1,039
  • Mar 12, 2009 1:32am Mar 12, 2009 1:32am
Quoting lillelise
ov2 is the line that schall be on left side of chart.
i have setup hot keys...right click the indi in script set hotkey ...like ctrl-1 and for other ctrl-2 ..when done that just place the vertical lines in top/bottom where you wanna mesure...and press ctrl-1 or 2 at same time...number will appear..

hmmm sounds like a nifty tool..however, It still don't work but thats okay, there is a indie that OTR created called tictic which measures plus/minus tick volume on per bar basis..
  • #1,040
  • Mar 12, 2009 1:33am Mar 12, 2009 1:33am
Quoting nyse1982
If you read earlier comments I explained the reasoning I'll ban people if they post other techniques other then VSA and if they bash other members, period..Otherwise the room is open for everyone..
I assume he isn't banned then ? ..... good ... I hoped it was the case.

It might be worth sending a PM to him just to let him know as we don't want to lose his input here?
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