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  • #921
  • Mar 10, 2009 2:58pm Mar 10, 2009 2:58pm
Quoting malcolmb14
hi shamus .. good job on the chat room .. enjoyed it last night

I think a picture is worth a thousand indicators .. opps i meant words ..lol

VSA , when ones master it is very visual .. something no indicator can ever take the place of ....
Thank you sir. It was a pleasure following along with you while you work.

I think a new thread should be started. One for pure VSA and another for people that wanted to try to mechanize it.

This thread has derailed completely. LOL
The trend always ends.
  • #922
  • Mar 10, 2009 3:03pm Mar 10, 2009 3:03pm
there was a chart in here that I wanted to pickk on ..lol .. in a good educational way ..but they seem to have extracted the post

it was a nice EUR chart with entries at the top .... the comment that i caught was that there was no sign to get out ...and in fact there was a long setting up with a VERY clear vsa set up that a bounce was in the making . this is why VSA indicators do not work ....

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  • #923
  • Mar 10, 2009 3:09pm Mar 10, 2009 3:09pm
I have been in this game for 6 years , 3 years of profit now.. lol feels like I in AA .....

one thing i hasve noticed over and over .. no matter if a moves seems it is going to last for ever it never does .. the move on eur today to down side was awesome ., but once the wide spread bars statred happening on the bottom it is time to think about going long .....

never get married to one direction .... always be suspicious of every high volume bar .

Not to long ago .... GJ was ripping 300 pips it just took off ... traders in my trading room were pissed that I missed it and would not get in part way thru the move( I do not do trading room anymore ) .. I told them to be ready for a sell .. they all thought i was insane .. got some serious heat . Well the move lasted 30 minutes .... we got a great top form I hit the sell within 30 pips of top.... that trade netted 450 pips over the next 2 hour .....then I became a hero ...lol
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  • #924
  • Mar 10, 2009 3:12pm Mar 10, 2009 3:12pm
Quoting malcolmb14
there was a chart in here that I wanted to pickk on ..lol .. in a good educational way ..but they seem to have extracted the post

it was a nice EUR chart with entries at the top .... the comment that i caught was that there was no sign to get out ...and in fact there was a long setting up with a VERY clear vsa set up that a bounce was in the making . this is why VSA indicators do not work ....

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Hi Malcolmb. So in other words, the indicators do work correctly for volume and spread, but the analysis has to be done by the trader?
  • #925
  • Mar 10, 2009 3:14pm Mar 10, 2009 3:14pm
Quoting ShamusFamous
Thank you sir. It was a pleasure following along with you while you work.

I think a new thread should be started. One for pure VSA and another for people that wanted to try to mechanize it.

This thread has derailed completely. LOL
Malcolmb,

Is your thread "GBPJPY scalping" where you teach all of the "pure" VSA? Its a big and long thread! If not, I like Shamus' idea of starting one for this. That way we can all keep apples and oranges separated (I would definitely be consuming both for sure!). If you do decide to do this, please post a link in here for it and perhaps nyse can post his link in yours?

All; no sense in thread hi-jacking when obviously there are differences in methodology. I think this is one reason why there is so much confusion here.
- Bowen (a.k.a. Wolf)
  • #926
  • Mar 10, 2009 3:15pm Mar 10, 2009 3:15pm
hi Malcolm,

i'm a little confused about what is considered as high volume and what is low volume in your analysis.

on post 912 you say: "after small dip we have test of top with low spread HIGH VOLUME candle - sellers."

and...

on post 913 - "LOW VOLUME down bar - no supply..."


how do you determine what is high and what is low volume...the way i see it i would say that the volume on post 912 is NOT high, but low or average and on post 913 i wouldn't say low volume but maybe average compared to previous volumes...

thanks for your help.
  • #927
  • Mar 10, 2009 3:16pm Mar 10, 2009 3:16pm
Quoting malcolmb14
there was a chart in here that I wanted to pickk on ..lol .. in a good educational way ..but they seem to have extracted the post

it was a nice EUR chart with entries at the top .... the comment that i caught was that there was no sign to get out ...and in fact there was a long setting up with a VERY clear vsa set up that a bounce was in the making . this is why VSA indicators do not work ....

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It was my chart. However, the bars you are posting as the signal to get out had not been made when I posted the chart. The only one that was on the chart was the High volume down bar and the reversal half bar. this was a warning for me. However, I exited on the stopping volume bar that was 4 bars after the half bar reversal.

I can post a new chart of this if you want if it will help and give me new information. I am not offended in the least. I am always open to new information.
  • #928
  • Mar 10, 2009 3:17pm Mar 10, 2009 3:17pm
Quoting Pips_Cruiser
Hi Malcolmb. So in other words, the indicators do work correctly for volume and spread, but the analysis has to be done by the trader?

hey you tracked me down ...lol

to be honest to get the b est trades you have to be ready for them ... see what is going on before the price reverses .. if one understands VSA you can see trades unfold as they do ...before any indicators turn up . Most indies are lagging by 2 candles .... they are on tradeguider .. NINJA vsa is alittle better
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  • #929
  • Mar 10, 2009 3:19pm Mar 10, 2009 3:19pm
Here is the chart
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  • #930
  • Mar 10, 2009 3:20pm Mar 10, 2009 3:20pm
Quoting BlackWolf
Malcolmb,

Is your thread "GBPJPY scalping" where you teach all of the "pure" VSA? Its a big and long thread! If not, I like Shamus' idea of starting one for this. That way we can all keep apples and oranges separated (I would definitely be consuming both for sure!). If you do decide to do this, please post a link in here for it and perhaps nyse can post his link in yours?

All; no sense in thread hi-jacking when obviously there are differences in methodology. I think this is one reason why there is so much confusion here.
NYSE can correct me if I am wrong ... this thread was sarted to talk VSA .. not indicators that EAs can be made of. No offcence but an EA will NOT make
a good trader of one .. it is a just a lazy mans way to try and make money .

I will post a ninja script for EVERYTHING you guys need for VSA signals when I get home later ( on my main trading computer) . It is as good as tradeguider and maybe even a little better . I think there are some free forex feeds for ninja trader . is a hungry beasty though and you need some good ram to drive it.
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  • #931
  • Mar 10, 2009 3:22pm Mar 10, 2009 3:22pm
Thanks malcomb......
forexflash
  • #932
  • Mar 10, 2009 3:25pm Mar 10, 2009 3:25pm
Quoting lumesh
hi Malcolm,

i'm a little confused about what is considered as high volume and what is low volume in your analysis.

on post 912 you say: "after small dip we have test of top with low spread HIGH VOLUME candle - sellers."

and...

on post 913 - "LOW VOLUME down bar - no supply..."


how do you determine what is high and what is low volume...the way i see it i would say that the volume on post 912 is NOT high, but low or average and on post 913 i wouldn't say low volume but maybe average compared to previous volumes...

thanks for your...

look at post 912 ..

I mention high vol , low spread at top ... it is high vol when compared to all other bars , but not the bar immediately to the left of it .

On the next bar I talk about high vol , low spread , about 2/3 way thru the top .... this is high volume when comapred to the 4 bars to left of it ...

so with the background of seeing a high volume up bar being hit by sellers this would have been your sell signal ..
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  • #933
  • Mar 10, 2009 3:27pm Mar 10, 2009 3:27pm
Quoting malcolmb14
hey you tracked me down ...lol

to be honest to get the b est trades you have to be ready for them ... see what is going on before the price reverses .. if one understands VSA you can see trades unfold as they do ...before any indicators turn up . Most indies are lagging by 2 candles .... they are on tradeguider .. NINJA vsa is alittle better
Gotcha, thanks!

  • #934
  • Mar 10, 2009 3:39pm Mar 10, 2009 3:39pm
Quoting malcolmb14
NYSE can correct me if I am wrong ... this thread was sarted to talk VSA .. not indicators that EAs can be made of. No offcence but an EA will NOT make
a good trader of one .. it is a just a lazy mans way to try and make money .

I will post a ninja script for EVERYTHING you guys need for VSA signals when I get home later ( on my main trading computer) . It is as good as tradeguider and maybe even a little better . I think there are some free forex feeds for ninja trader . is a hungry beasty though and you need some good ram to drive it.
LOL! I wasn't trying to run you off, Admiral. I was just making a suggestion to help everyone here keep nyse's trade method and yours easier to absorb and focus on. Perhaps nyse started his thread off with a general overtone of discussing VSA in general but he quickly transitioned into how HE trades it after post #1.

As for the EA issue, I've already given my opinion on it as has nyse and others so I won't say anything else about it other than the term "lazy' would be a bit misleading given my earlier post citing solid and real life reasons in favor of it. Perhaps it wouldn't be an VSA EA at all, maybe a candle trading EA that just references components of VSA.
- Bowen (a.k.a. Wolf)
  • #935
  • Mar 10, 2009 3:42pm Mar 10, 2009 3:42pm
I posted VSA indicator for NT a lot of post ago here http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=185, and a here http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=441 with some setup spec.

Lubo.

P.s. There's also VSA for Amibroker, and if someone is interested there's also a plugin for MT4 data to Amibroker.

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  • #936
  • Mar 10, 2009 3:44pm Mar 10, 2009 3:44pm
Quoting LuboLabo
I posted VSA indicator for NT a lot of post ago here http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=185, and a here http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=441 with some setup spec.

Lubo.

P.s. There's also VSA for Amibroker, and if someone is interested there's also a plugin for MT4 data to Amibroker.

A screenshoot.
Did you post the plug in for ami broker from MT4?

I have AmiBroker, and it is far superior to MT4 in the use of Arrays and time frame definitions and start and stop times. I did not know there was a plugin. It's backtest is much better also.
  • #937
  • Mar 10, 2009 3:50pm Mar 10, 2009 3:50pm
Quoting thatwasme
Did you post the plug in for ami broker from MT4?

I have AmiBroker, and it is far superior to MT4 in the use of Arrays and time frame definitions and start and stop times. I did not know there was a plugin. It's backtest is much better also.

Try this........
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forexflash
  • #938
  • Mar 10, 2009 3:54pm Mar 10, 2009 3:54pm
Quoting FOREXflash
Try this........
Awesome, thanks. Sorry for the off topic post. LOL
  • #939
  • Mar 10, 2009 3:58pm Mar 10, 2009 3:58pm

ops I have been preceded.

It's the same...

Lubo.

P.s. thanks Ff

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  • #940
  • Mar 10, 2009 4:21pm Mar 10, 2009 4:21pm
What would be a good Stock Trading Platform for VSA?
Any Suggestions?
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