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  • #341
  • Mar 4, 2009 6:04pm Mar 4, 2009 6:04pm
Some people are reporting that MT4 is crashing (locking up) when they load the template, which in turn loads the indicator vForceAlerts.

The most common reason is using an out of date build of MT4.

Look in the Journal tab of the terminal window to see which build number you have. You should see something like this...

MetaTrader 4.00 build 220 started (MetaQuotes Software Corp.)
MIG Trading Station 4.00 build 220 started (MIG Investments SA)

The build 220 is the key thing because that is what I used to compile the indicator.

MT4 Tip
You can get a demo feed on IBFX (for your charts and testing only) without going through their website registration. See post 2078
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...postcount=2078
  • #342
  • Mar 4, 2009 6:32pm Mar 4, 2009 6:32pm
well my Apari platform is version 4.0 biuld 217. well i dont know how to upgrade it to buid 220 but for now Im using IBfx demo feed for my signal
Add value everyday in Pips
  • #343
  • Mar 4, 2009 6:51pm Mar 4, 2009 6:51pm
To all,

I would like to express my appreciation for the positive feeback. Some poeple like to be negitave and many people are correct when stating I should just let go. So this is what I will do. I take my FX very seriously and also my mission to help other out. Rob is the same way. I appoligise for maybe setting a bad example in this thread to everyone. Moving on to other things, on Sunday I will be launching the advaced portion of this system. This is where we will get into to price ation, support and resistance, trend lines. It is important that everyone spend as much time as possible making yourselfs familiar with the indicator. Also if yor not sure about the above mentioned items such as price action ect... one can search the internet to learn as much as possible before next week.

FJ
Stacking pips since 2002
  • #344
  • Mar 4, 2009 7:10pm Mar 4, 2009 7:10pm
Kudos to Jedi and robdee. Guys, I'm seeing excellent results on the Eur/Yen too. You gotta turn off the labels I suppose, otherwise it seems right on. I use other filters as I don't trust any system completely and I would never use an EA. Whatever floats your boat I suppose

robdee, I don't like your arrows! Ha! Otherwise, thumbs up! The indicator even lets you change colors, meaning when you change 'em the save template sticks unlike other indicators I have. Maybe you can work on them arrows

regards all
  • #345
  • Mar 4, 2009 7:13pm Mar 4, 2009 7:13pm
I love arrows. I use them to shoot PIPS with. No one's gonna take my arrows away.
Quoting goldsurfer
Kudos to Jedi and robdee. Guys, I'm seeing excellent results on the Eur/Yen too. You gotta turn off the labels I suppose, otherwise it seems right on. I use other filters as I don't trust any system completely and I would never use an EA. Whatever floats your boat I suppose

robdee, I don't like your arrows! Ha! Otherwise, thumbs up! The indicator even lets you change colors, meaning when you change 'em the save template sticks unlike other indicators I have. Maybe you can work on them arrows

regards all
  • #346
  • Mar 4, 2009 7:14pm Mar 4, 2009 7:14pm
though my platform updates each time I open it, i was suprised to see that I still have build 217 while there is build 220 MT4 platforms out there, is it possible for me to upgrade my platform to 220 myself? since it is suspected that this is the reason for the crashing of platform at loading this system
Add value everyday in Pips
  • #347
  • Mar 4, 2009 7:35pm Mar 4, 2009 7:35pm
Quoting paradoxical
I love arrows. I use them to shoot PIPS with. No one's gonna take my arrows away.


I like 'em too, and I got lots of 'em, just none look like robdees, i can get use to 'em I suppose
  • #348
  • Mar 4, 2009 7:38pm Mar 4, 2009 7:38pm
Quoting Pip-Stud
though my platform updates each time I open it, i was suprised to see that I still have build 217 while there is build 220 MT4 platforms out there, is it possible for me to upgrade my platform to 220 myself? since it is suspected that this is the reason for the crashing of platform at loading this system

Yup, just download it from your broker, I betcha he's got the current build, #220

regards all
  • #349
  • Mar 4, 2009 7:46pm Mar 4, 2009 7:46pm
Hey FJ and Rob Dont be distracted by the naysayers. Keep up the good
work and looking forward to the next phases of V FORCE.

CHEERS
BLUESTEELE


Master your Mind,,,Master the Market
  • #350
  • Mar 4, 2009 7:53pm Mar 4, 2009 7:53pm
Hi FJ and RD...

I just wanted to address a few things that have come up over the initial start up of your thread.

1. Negativity - I am not sure why some people want to be negative about a methodology they haven't tried. In addition you have stated that it's a 3 step implementation process to fully understand the system. Why not wait until all of the cards are on the table before bashing something. If you really don't see anything you like about the system then just move on.

2. Some people have stated that this system gets you into the trade way too late on the move up or down. I have noticed that same issue but when it does get you in and the move continues it turns out to be a very decent positive trade. Some systems get in on the pull back some get you in on the breakout. I have tried both and they both have winners and losers. Most, if not all of these systems depend on the the trader and their knowledge of the market to make positive trades each day. In the case of this system I see that you can make 20-30 pips 70% of the time and to me that's a big edge. Now if you apply proper money management and don't lose 40-60 pips on the other 30% of the trades then you should have a positive edge using this system. Set up and trade a demo account and see if that if true for you. If that doesn't prove out for you then find some other system to trade.

3. Signals and trading platforms - this seems to be an issue on almost every system thread. What every one needs to understand is that every platform may use a time different to GMT=0 and that the data feeds from platform to platform may be different. The data feeds from demo to live typically are slightly different even with the same company. So why have I brought this up? We have pages and pages of questions in this thread already dealing with this subject and it just starts to bog down the thread. The simple answer is we all use different brokers so unless you're using IBFX in this case chances are you may get different signal and entry candles than FJ and RD. Even if you use IBFX the feeds may be different depending on what server the data is coming form and if you have a live or demo account. My other point is the "how to trade the system" part doesn't change because you have a different broker just the signal and entry candles may change a bit. So trade the signals on your platform and don't worry if they are slightly different for every one else. Either that or open up an IBFX demo account.

4. Don't trade any system blindy just because you get a signal. I am assuming that part 2 and 3 of FJ and RD's method will help us filter out some of the bad signals. So be patient.

Sorry for the long rant..now back to the business of trading.
  • #351
  • Mar 4, 2009 8:21pm Mar 4, 2009 8:21pm
Thanks for your kind unselfish and generouse contribution to us who have strugled so hard and spent so much time and effort trying to be successful at this fx stuff . I so appreciate you guys for giveing me this extra edge and hope I can be of some help also .............Tom
  • #352
  • Mar 4, 2009 8:34pm Mar 4, 2009 8:34pm
Ozzie,

Great post! Your words are powerful and have meaning. Thank you for your time and effort to illustrate your points.

FJ

Quoting ozziedave
Hi FJ and RD...

I just wanted to address a few things that have come up over the initial start up of your thread.

1. Negativity - I am not sure why some people want to be negative about a methodology they haven't tried. In addition you have stated that it's a 3 step implementation process to fully understand the system. Why not wait until all of the cards are on the table before bashing something. If you really don't see anything you like about the system then just move on.

2. Some people have stated that this system gets you into the trade...
Stacking pips since 2002
  • #353
  • Mar 4, 2009 8:45pm Mar 4, 2009 8:45pm
Quoting forexjedi
Trades so far today are numbered at 2. The first trade is a loosing trade. If one knows their PA which we will begin learning in the advanced vForce launching soon they could have exited at the higher low shown in the chart below. Trade 2 is still in progress and is profiting nicely. Chart below.
FJ, you cannot know and confirm if that low was a higher low until previous swing high at 1.2510 passed. So if you use PA to exit this losing trade, the best exit you could take was the close of 6.30 bar @1.2515.
  • #354
  • Mar 4, 2009 8:50pm Mar 4, 2009 8:50pm
What about me!!! I went on my rant earlier in this thread!!! I was not shown any love for pointing out the same topics. I feel let down!!!

LOL...just joking.

I'm just glad to see that people are seeing that we are privaledged to have FJ and Robdee sharing their knowledge with us

Quoting forexjedi
Ozzie,

Great post! Your words are powerful and have meaning. Thank you for your time and effort to illustrate your points.

FJ
  • #355
  • Mar 4, 2009 8:52pm Mar 4, 2009 8:52pm
Black,

The two best time to close were the two hammers. 1 at 3:15GMT and 1 at 4:30GMT. I closed my position at 4:30GMT.

FJ

Quoting Blackeagle
FJ, you cannot know and confirm if that low was a higher low until previous swing high at 1.2510 passed. So if you use PA to exit this losing trade, the best exit you could take was the close of 6.30 bar @1.2515.
Stacking pips since 2002
  • #356
  • Mar 4, 2009 8:56pm Mar 4, 2009 8:56pm
I would like to invite everyone over to my 5min system "the force5min system" thread who is looking for something to fill the gaps waiting for vForce trades. This system I first posted here in October and has many dedicated members to help answer questions.

The system is located here
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=120606

FJ
Stacking pips since 2002
  • #357
  • Mar 4, 2009 8:58pm Mar 4, 2009 8:58pm
S,

Sorry for neglecting you! Your words are also fantastic meaningful!!!!

FJ

Quoting Siuol
What about me!!! I went on my rant earlier in this thread!!! I was not shown any love for pointing out the same topics. I feel let down!!!

LOL...just joking.

I'm just glad to see that people are seeing that we are privaledged to have FJ and Robdee sharing their knowledge with us
Stacking pips since 2002
  • #358
  • Mar 4, 2009 9:00pm Mar 4, 2009 9:00pm
I just had to crack a funny (at least I thought it was).

Quoting forexjedi
S,

Sorry for neglecting you! Your words are also fantastic meaningful!!!!

FJ
  • #359
  • Mar 4, 2009 9:29pm Mar 4, 2009 9:29pm
S,

Oh your funny!!

Quoting Siuol
I just had to crack a funny (at least I thought it was).
Stacking pips since 2002
  • #360
  • Mar 4, 2009 10:09pm Mar 4, 2009 10:09pm
Quoting goldsurfer
robdee, I don't like your arrows! Ha! Otherwise, thumbs up! The indicator even lets you change colors, meaning when you change 'em the save template sticks unlike other indicators I have.
Hey goldsurfer, if you have a way cool chart template how about posting it here for everyone to see ?

ShowChartArrows is disabled by default because they are basically a distraction from the main focus which is the signal candles. So I have not attempted to make them cool.

You can of course adjust the arrow size and colours. On the Colors tab the first two lines (0 & 1) represent the arrows. Use the Width property to control the size of the arrows. It is at maximum (5) by default. RD
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