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  • #201
  • Mar 1, 2009 1:49pm Mar 1, 2009 1:49pm
Quoting STill_ace
zip "the daily cross method v1.7" contains "KG RS GROUP V1.1.ex4" file,
i need "KG RS GROUP V1.1.mq4" to have possibility to change code
KG has not made the source code available.

  • #202
  • Mar 1, 2009 3:20pm Mar 1, 2009 3:20pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
Sahars, I have no organisational skills whatsoever, and zero eye for detail. I know from experience that you have these in Spades.

Would you like to draw up a table of tf's and possible strategies for us to test, then we can say, "I will test this one"?

Hi Steve,

Thanks for the comments. On which time frame that we should start for testing...?! Do you think we should start at as low as 1M TF..?!

Cheers

sahars
  • #203
  • Mar 1, 2009 3:57pm Mar 1, 2009 3:57pm
Quoting sahars
Hi Steve,

Thanks for the comments. On which time frame that we should start for testing...?! Do you think we should start at as low as 1M TF..?!

Cheers

sahars
Every instinct in my body shrieks this to everyone here THIS IS A DAILY CROSS SYSTEM, YOU DIMWIT, WHY ARE YOU MUCKING AROUND WITH ANYTHING ELSE?

Trouble is, you have come up with a method of trading the 4H that is working for you.

ShamusFamous appears to be trading it successfully on a 1M tf, for crying out loud.

I test new incarnations of the EA on a 15M tf. Sometimes, these are ridiculously successful, sometimes utter failures. It doesn't matter because I am testing specific features such as market-following pending orders, but a profitable experiment makes me wonder, "What if......"

So, if you could turn your fertile imaginations to trading methods we can test and leave me free to code the mechanics, I would be most grateful.

Cheers

  • #204
  • Mar 1, 2009 5:55pm Mar 1, 2009 5:55pm
Quoting SteveHopwood
Every instinct in my body shrieks this to everyone here THIS IS A DAILY CROSS SYSTEM, YOU DIMWIT, WHY ARE YOU MUCKING AROUND WITH ANYTHING ELSE?

Trouble is, you have come up with a method of trading the 4H that is working for you.

ShamusFamous appears to be trading it successfully on a 1M tf, for crying out loud.

I test new incarnations of the EA on a 15M tf. Sometimes, these are ridiculously successful, sometimes utter failures. It doesn't matter because I am testing specific features such as market-following pending orders, but a profitable...

Just turned it on again. So far so good (m1) I'm just going to let it run and see. If it seems to be fairly consistent over a weeks time and net is positive I'll post up my set file for others to test too.

I agree with Steve... he has done so much. Let the users test it and see what works and report back as necessary and Steve can continue making this monster even more monsterish lol.
The trend always ends.
  • #205
  • Mar 1, 2009 5:59pm Mar 1, 2009 5:59pm
yo shamus, did you change your lower time confirmations/exits if you got this beast on 1 minute?

just curious if i change these if i go with any less than what comes as default if i'm on a lower time frame
  • #206
  • Mar 1, 2009 6:00pm Mar 1, 2009 6:00pm
This is a question for the testers. Do you notice a strong bias to short orders only?

Out of a huge amount of trades Friday and so far today it very rarely (none today) takes longs. I am testing on the M1 so you guys may not be seeing this but let me know if you notice similar behavior or what might be causing it.
The trend always ends.
  • #207
  • Mar 1, 2009 6:09pm Mar 1, 2009 6:09pm
Quoting litcons30
yo shamus, did you change your lower time confirmations/exits if you got this beast on 1 minute?

just curious if i change these if i go with any less than what comes as default if i'm on a lower time frame
Yes I have add bep of 10 ts of 15. Although I do occasionally close out trades manually + and - if counter trend. I'll analyze the statement a bit to see which pairs seem to work best, whether I do better watching it and closing manually or if I just let it run, and if stops can be adjusted/optimized to get better results.

It seems to do very well with the current settings. Currently from Friday (a few hours prior to NY close) on, closed trades are +657ish (658 before swaps)
and open trades as of now are -175 for a net of +482

I ran it for a few hours on Friday and started it 8pm EST today so results seem very promising. Although I would stress much more forward testing is needed as it may be a fluke.
The trend always ends.
  • #208
  • Mar 1, 2009 6:20pm Mar 1, 2009 6:20pm
Hi Guys,

As promised..I attached here the default setup (for IBFX only) for testing the V1.7 from 1M to 4H TF. Everything follow the default except the following set need to change :

For 1M, AddBEP=5, JS=11
For 5M, AddBEP=9, JS=17
For 15M, AddBEP=13, JS=19
For 30M, AddBEP=15, JS=21
For 1H, same as 30M
For 4H, AddBEP=25, JS=19

Since we are testing based on Pips movement, the lots not really required to change. But, please post the result in pips,not by $.

I personally will test the 1H and 4H and I suggest ShamusFamus to test on 1M TF..and I need for testing the 5M, 15M and 30M.

I will post the result everyday (from Asian open till US session closed).

Happy pipping.

sahars
Attached File(s)
File Type: zip kg rs dc v1.7-default.zip   1 KB | 593 downloads
  • #209
  • Mar 1, 2009 6:47pm Mar 1, 2009 6:47pm
Quoting sahars
Hi Guys,

As promised..I attached here the default setup (for IBFX only) for testing the V1.7 from 1M to 4H TF. Everything follow the default except the following set need to change :

For 1M, AddBEP=5, JS=11
For 5M, AddBEP=9, JS=17
For 15M, AddBEP=13, JS=19
For 30M, AddBEP=15, JS=21
For 1H, same as 30M
For 4H, AddBEP=25, JS=19

Since we are testing based on Pips movement, the lots not really required to change. But, please post the result in pips,not by $.

I personally will test the 1H and 4H and I suggest ShamusFamus to test on 1M TF..and...

Sounds good. I am testing with .10 contracts so each pip is = to $1 Just so there's no confusion whether I quote results in dollars or pips.
The trend always ends.
  • #210
  • Mar 1, 2009 7:21pm Mar 1, 2009 7:21pm
Quoting ShamusFamous
Sounds good. I am testing with .10 contracts so each pip is = to $1 Just so there's no confusion whether I quote results in dollars or pips.
Thanks ShamusFamous... I still need another volunteer to test the 5M,15M and 30M...!!. Pls. help us to make this Ea successful...

Thanks to all

Cheers

sahars
  • #211
  • Mar 1, 2009 8:03pm Mar 1, 2009 8:03pm
Sahars,
I will test the 5min timeframe for you. I would offer to test all 3 however I have too many mt4's running at the moment, would probably bog me down.
I'll use your set file, and make the changes for the 5min timeframe as you've noted.
One thing I noticed, in your set file you have break even settings set to false. I need to change this to true and change the BreakEvenProfit to 9 correct?
  • #212
  • Mar 1, 2009 8:18pm Mar 1, 2009 8:18pm
Quoting tazmaan
Sahars,
I will test the 5min timeframe for you. I would offer to test all 3 however I have too many mt4's running at the moment, would probably bog me down.
I'll use your set file, and make the changes for the 5min timeframe as you've noted.
One thing I noticed, in your set file you have break even settings set to false. I need to change this to true and change the BreakEvenProfit to 9 correct?
Hi Tazmaan,

Thanks for your offer... You just need to change the BreakEvenProfit to 9..that's it. No need to changed it to true since the AddBEP is already set to true...

Cheers

sahars
  • #213
  • Mar 1, 2009 8:33pm Mar 1, 2009 8:33pm
thanks, testing commencing.
  • #214
  • Mar 1, 2009 9:18pm Mar 1, 2009 9:18pm
sahars, i got the 15 min covered, thanks for you imputs here



Mike
  • #215
  • Mar 1, 2009 10:23pm Mar 1, 2009 10:23pm
Quoting litcons30
sahars, i got the 15 min covered, thanks for you imputs here



Mike
Thanks Mike...Now we still have the M30...to be tested...Anybody..!?

Sahars
  • #216
  • Mar 2, 2009 1:23am Mar 2, 2009 1:23am
Sahars, Sorry - i've got my hands full with the daily trading. I'll keep you guys updated with the results.

Steve, Having a great day today - got to 10% equity gain global closure. Hope you're going well

Cheers
  • #217
  • Mar 2, 2009 1:26am Mar 2, 2009 1:26am
Ok, I'll do the 30 TF
  • #218
  • Mar 2, 2009 1:56am Mar 2, 2009 1:56am
Quoting sundog
Ok, I'll do the 30 TF
Thanks Sundog...

sahars
  • #219
  • Mar 2, 2009 3:03am Mar 2, 2009 3:03am
Thanks to those of you who have offered to share your testing results on the lower tf's.

Thanks especially to Sahars for organising this.

V1.8 is available from the first post. In it, I have added a ShamusFamous style extra trade filter.

ShamusFamous' method of eyeballing the D1 is a little to vague to program into an EA. This is not a criticism, merely a relection that, by its nature a robot cannot have a 'feel' for the markets. Instead, I have used MACD.

My understanding of MACD is this: once its value has been over 0 for 5 consecutive periods, then it is showing an uptrend. Vice versa for a downtrend.

The EA defaults to looking back for 3 days on the D1 chart, for no reason other than my own instinct. The settings are cusomisable. From the user guide:

 

  1. UseMACD: use this filter when trading the EA on lower tf's than the D1. It ensures that trades are only taken in the direction of the tf set in MacdPeriod. The defaults equate to 3 days on the D1 chart.

    1. MacdPeriod: the period in minutes that represents the higher tf whose trend you wish to use as the filter. You have to set this input to the correct number of minutes for the chart you are trading. The settings are:

      1. 1
      2. 5
      3. 15
      4. 30
      5. 60 (H1)
      6. 240 (H4)
      7. 1440 (D1)
      8. 10080 (W1)
      9. 43200 (M1)

    2. MacdLookBackBars: how many periods to look back to establish the trend.

Cheers guys. Hope this helps the testing.

  • #220
  • Edited 5:59am Mar 2, 2009 5:58am | Edited 5:59am
Awesome! I will put this up later on today.

This is probably much better than my way or at least more precise.

Steve maybe I wasn't clear enough in my explanation but it's not a feel thing at all. When I get a long signal for example, I check the D1 candle for trend. Simply said If the d1 candle is higher than open of candle (up) I'll take that trade. Reverse for shorts.

I check this every time I get a valid signal.

Cheers.

Running total since start of day (v1.7 settings posted earlier) is +1088.26 closed with -399 open

Edit: To be clear this is overall (2days) not just today.
The trend always ends.
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