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  • #21
  • Feb 25, 2009 11:18pm Feb 25, 2009 11:18pm
Quoting dmjservices
if you understand the method please look over my math anybody
hmm still look wrong to me... give me 2 hours so i can get on skype...
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  • #22
  • Feb 26, 2009 3:51am Feb 26, 2009 3:51am
Quoting dmjservices
if you understand the method please look over my math anybody
With the idea, you need to consider the spread.
For making an EA, the spread make it alittle confusion.

EU example: start with both buy and sell, sell at 1.4500, sell will be at 1.4503
try look on one side movement first, if buy hit 20pips SL, automatic open another buy and sell. it is already -20. If it return to up position, sell2 hit 20 pips SL, close all. here, the first buy already at minus spread. the only positive is buy2. Net still negative.

Am i right?
  • #23
  • Feb 26, 2009 4:10am Feb 26, 2009 4:10am
Quoting dmjservices
j2 is movment

now if you go the full 7 levels your short profits go like this your trade:
(1)=$184.00
(2)=$96.00
(3)=$48.00
(4)=$48.00
(5)=$48.00
(6)=$64.00
(7)=$64.00
with a + 20 pips past step 7 this = $552.00

and with long trades you get
(1) 20-.20= -$4.00
(2) 20-.45= -$9.00
(3) 20-.80= -$16.00
(4) 20-1.60= -$32.00
(5) 20-3.20= -$64.00
(6) 20-6.40= -$128.00
(7) 20-12.80= -$256.00

this = -$509.00
so you take 552.00 - 509.00 = $43.00

so $43.00 your profits if it runs...
i can't get it to work. i calculate with every excell you provide here and if price reverse you will get profit. thats true. the main problem is closing at level 7. you will ever loosing much money. here is my calculation:

for shorts:
(1)140 x 0.2 = 28
(2)120 x 0.2 = 24
(3)100 x 0.2 = 20
(4)80 x 0.4 = 32
(5)60 x 0.6 = 48
(6)40 x 1.6 = 64
(7)20 x 3.2 = 64

= $280.00

Long-Side

(1)20 - 0.2 = -4
(2)20 - 0.45 = -9
(3)20 - 0.8 = -16
(4)20 - 1.6 = -32
(5)20 - 3.2 = -64
(6)20 - 6.4 = -128
(7)20 - 12.8 = -256

= $509.00 (this calculation wa right)

your loss would be -$229.00

i think that this equation will never close in profit only if the price reverses.

if you found another figures, let us know

regards der stratege
  • #24
  • Feb 26, 2009 5:57am Feb 26, 2009 5:57am
i had referred to a few wrong boxes.

i ran through it and now its a zero sum gain.
the markets moving, time to get in!
  • #25
  • Feb 26, 2009 6:00am Feb 26, 2009 6:00am
this means? new excell sheet or will it not work with whatever figures you use?
  • #26
  • Feb 26, 2009 7:03am Feb 26, 2009 7:03am
dmj, the mathematical laws can never be broken.
Quoting dmjservices
i had referred to a few wrong boxes.

i ran through it and now its a zero sum gain.
  • #27
  • Feb 26, 2009 10:28am Feb 26, 2009 10:28am
I asked you to double-check your cell references in my post......

hoho, no hard feeling, it is just a step of our exploration. good try.

Quoting dmjservices
i had referred to a few wrong boxes.

i ran through it and now its a zero sum gain.
  • #28
  • Feb 26, 2009 2:05pm Feb 26, 2009 2:05pm
and the people that looked it over did could not see the problem

you have to build a losing position somewhere.
the markets moving, time to get in!
  • #29
  • Feb 28, 2009 9:12am Feb 28, 2009 9:12am
Now, if you don't reach level 7, it means you take a loss, correct? So I assume you use this alongside a rangetrading ea. How much money are we talking about in trades on the board to realize a profit? And have you calculated what the range ea lot size would be to work in step with this system? By the way, beautifully done if you can get it to work.
  • #30
  • Last Post: Feb 28, 2009 9:18am Feb 28, 2009 9:18am
Well, thank god we cleared that up. I thought dmj had arrived from a parallel universe and defeated the laws of mathematics.
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