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  • #221
  • Feb 23, 2009 4:24am Feb 23, 2009 4:24am
Obviously Shakes is just promoting himself with fake trading because he wants to gain confidence from naive traders and later manage their accounts or sell something to them.....
  • #222
  • Feb 23, 2009 4:43am Feb 23, 2009 4:43am
HI..


welcome to the thread Ruslander...

Well your comments are more speculation at this point as nothing has been said about payments or trading others accounts...But I can see how you may come to that conclusion....

We are more interested right now in whether his trading is Factual...and that should show itself soon..
  • #223
  • Feb 23, 2009 5:19am Feb 23, 2009 5:19am
Quoting Angler
HI..


welcome to the thread Ruslander...

Well your comments are more speculation at this point as nothing has been said about payments or trading others accounts...But I can see how you may come to that conclusion....

We are more interested right now in whether his trading is Factual...and that should show itself soon..
Of course he didnt say anything about payments or trading accounts, but later you will see something like that.

His trading is just fake, dont believe everyting you read in the forums..
  • #224
  • Feb 23, 2009 5:21am Feb 23, 2009 5:21am
Quoting wwwin
I seriously doubt that he will accept. I offered him to both deposit $500 on an FXCM micro to enter the $25,000 King of Micro and if either of us won, to donate the $25,000.00 to charity. DENIED. Well I feel priviledged, at least he didn't ban me for metioning FXCM. Soon after, I was BANNED for asking a simple question about how he moved his stops. And if he takes you on, can I join the challenge too?
Of course wwwin! joh
  • #225
  • Feb 23, 2009 9:07am Feb 23, 2009 9:07am
Quoting Angler
HI..


welcome to the thread Ruslander...

Well your comments are more speculation at this point as nothing has been said about payments or trading others accounts...But I can see how you may come to that conclusion....

We are more interested right now in whether his trading is Factual...and that should show itself soon..
Were Angler, I would not call it speculation, I would call it an educated guess.
  • #226
  • Feb 23, 2009 9:30am Feb 23, 2009 9:30am
Since i cant quote, please look at the pictures:

This is from PeteLearning, who follows Shakes Strategy.


Picture one shows the "real time trade" @ 9:53AM EST for a sell order at 1.2808

Picture two shows that at 9:53AM EST the high price was 1.2806. You need to go back to 9:52 EST to hit 1.2808 (and even then it was the high price on that bar, so who knows how long you had to execute at that price, it could have been 1 second or less)

Regardless, the low on the 9:53 bar is 1.2797.


So let me go through how I would use this to entice noobs into my thread/strategy.

9:52, look at chart, see 1.2808 is the high.
9:53, see price fell 11 pips, post that i sold at 1.2808
9:54, post +10 pip take profit
9:55, start over again


very easily done since seconds arent posted on this forum, and "real time trading" isnt actually happening.

How convenient.



So convenient that i decided to sell at 1.2790 @ 16:04 for a quick +30 Pips. Im a genius. lol
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  • #227
  • Edited 9:58am Feb 23, 2009 9:46am | Edited 9:58am
Jwentro, exactly, thanks for taking the time to check a trade. I am sure there are many like that, but who wants to waste time going thru the (trades??) posted, and then going thru the 1 minute chart on the trading software, in particular when they (trade???) 40 times a day. Clever? perhaps. Real trading? PLEASE DONT INSULT ME. I think I just realized what their system is, it is based on counting on people not wanting to check 40 trades a day. Got it, mate?
  • #228
  • Feb 23, 2009 10:58am Feb 23, 2009 10:58am
he's fooling himself honestly.. the sad part he's wasting people time who are willing to learn even intermadiate or experienced trader can ge tricked out if they dont pay attention.. those kind of parasites that cant trade will always be around we've got to leave it at is.
"Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication" leonardo da vinci
  • #229
  • Feb 23, 2009 11:14am Feb 23, 2009 11:14am
Quoting wwwin
....who wants to waste time going thru the (trades??) posted, and then going thru the 1 minute chart on the trading software, in particular when they (trade???)


Exactly, no one, which is why showing a detailed statement would put to bed any questions regarding his method.


the fact he refuses to show a statement should raise an eyebrow to anyone with any common sense, something that is missing with all of shakes followers. Yes, i said ALL of shakes followers.
  • #230
  • Edited 11:18am Feb 23, 2009 11:15am | Edited 11:18am
.01 lot sold EURUSD @ 1.2755
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  • #231
  • Feb 23, 2009 11:21am Feb 23, 2009 11:21am
Quoting Jwentro
Exactly, no one, which is why showing a detailed statement would put to bed any questions regarding his method.


the fact he refuses to show a statement should raise an eyebrow to anyone with any common sense, something that is missing with all of shakes followers. Yes, i said ALL of shakes followers.
No transaction history

No video of the real time trading

No exhibition ( millionaire)

But the holy grail is there to be given for free what a joke? EDUCATION? Man it easy speak off theories than to really doing it, either you're educating or you're trading ( different scenarion here).. this is going to be one of the biggest joke of FF history for many year to comes
"Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication" leonardo da vinci
  • #232
  • Feb 23, 2009 11:32am Feb 23, 2009 11:32am
+3 pips, im done for the day
  • #233
  • Feb 23, 2009 3:01pm Feb 23, 2009 3:01pm
Quoting Jwentro
Exactly, no one, which is why showing a detailed statement would put to bed any questions regarding his method.


the fact he refuses to show a statement should raise an eyebrow to anyone with any common sense, something that is missing with all of shakes followers. Yes, i said ALL of shakes followers.
Shakes had prepered for that request.

He already stated in the 1st post(or somewhere near the start of his thread) that he did not want to reveal his broker. I asked him aftew weeks ago If he could provide a statement to put doubts to rest, but he refused as this would reveal the broker that he is using.

I have no idea why some'one would want to keep their broker a secret. Any ideas?
Living the adventure in my head.
  • #234
  • Feb 23, 2009 3:05pm Feb 23, 2009 3:05pm
Quoting Leonlorenzo
I asked him aftew weeks ago If he could provide a statement to put doubts to rest, but he refused as this would reveal the broker that he is using.

i asked him jan 21, and it got me banned from his thread. lol.

you would think a broker (that is as great as his seems to be) would want as much advertising as possible.
  • #235
  • Feb 23, 2009 3:21pm Feb 23, 2009 3:21pm
Well fellow traders, I was going to say something about why broker not revealed but I am trying hard to stay out of any controversy at least until Wednesday 2-25-09 4:00 am U.S Eastern Standard Time. Could it be the calm before the storm..Stay tuned. http://www.forexfactory.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
  • #236
  • Feb 23, 2009 3:39pm Feb 23, 2009 3:39pm
Here is my nomination for post of the day

http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=226
  • #237
  • Edited 4:20pm Feb 23, 2009 4:05pm | Edited 4:20pm
hi all..


Excellent post Jwentro...titled " How Shakes Strategy works "

Beside the idea that you arrived at and had beed brought up in the past by wwwin...but great to see it in action..makes it more clear.

The ease at which you posted a chart to show your trade....which is missing on the other thread....no detailed showing of trades to answer people's questions.....well maybe because people would have looked in more detail at tick charts and such and then had even more harder questions to be answered...

I think we are now into the second week where there has been no trading on the Skakes thread......that is strange for someone that ONLY wants to teach people his trading method....but put so much effort into this live trading.....where as mentioned in the past....a simple chat room is all anyone wanted...could have been set-up in 5mins ..
  • #238
  • Feb 23, 2009 5:33pm Feb 23, 2009 5:33pm
hi all..

Well let me just take a minute to reply to a post on the other thread about similar arguements ..

Well on the Auslanco thread....I think you will find that our claims proved right....he was setting up to sell his system or signals or whatever...as he now charge $89 for some swing trade signal....

SO AS FAR AS THE AUSLANCO ARGUEMENT GOES WE WERE PROVEN RIGHT WITH NO DOUBTS ABOUT IT...

I might add....when that was happening...SMJONES kindly set us up with a thread so we could discuss it away from the main thread ( just as we are doing now )....so at that time free discussion was approved.....

Any other disputes here..in the end were also proven right...

Scams will always be here.......just people try to prevent you talking about them

As he wanted to bring the Auslanco thread up....

Shakes should explain what happened to that huge drawdown on a trade he had mentioned there were he used 40% of his account wishing and hoping for a bottom in the market....that only came after a 1800pips fall from his entry level......NO mention of the results....he never went back to explain the results on the thread....probably no such trade.. AND this was only Just Dec '08....how quickly he has come up with 2 other trading methods since then, IN fact...it took him less than a month....he had 2 methods here....
  • #239
  • Feb 23, 2009 5:42pm Feb 23, 2009 5:42pm
it seems that any time I call a truce, the boy wants more trouble...after my calling for a truce until wedesday, the boy posted in his thread about me and Angler...in my opinion the boy wants to incite a riot in order to get out of doing the live trades...therefore I am not going to answer the crap he posted in his thread just after I posted that I did not want any controversy until the live show other than this..... LET ME SAY THIS TO YOU..THE ONLY (2 PERSONS??) THAT I HAVE EVER GONE AFTER IN THIS SITE IS/ARE AUSLANCO AND YOU...I AM ALMOST CERTAIN THAT AUSLANCO AND YOU ARE THE SAME PERSON...AND THAT IS THE ONLY REASON I WENT AFTER YOU. GET IT. Aulanco's thread started with the same crap, free, no system, outrageous promises but after a while, even his own followers eventually lost interest in him and continued the thread on their own, ignoring him and therefore he left the thread and FF... well Auslanco has now opened this little signal calling service, surprise surprise at $89 a month.. http://auslanco.hqforums.com/ surprise surprise, maybe this paid service is not doing well, he? he? I am not going to inform the mods b/c that is not my nature, but let me inform you that having multiple user names is a bannable offense. Coult it be that you wanna get banned before wednesday? u were pushed into the exhibition as your were trapped into it. Well if in fact Shakey and Auslanco are the same person, I hope the mods do not ban Shakey until after the exhibition...Surprise Surprise
  • #240
  • Feb 23, 2009 5:48pm Feb 23, 2009 5:48pm
Quoting wwwin
it seems that any time I call a truce, the boy wants more trouble...after my calling for a truce until wedesday, the boy posted in his thread about me and Angler...in my opinion the boy wants to incite a riot in order to get out of doing the live trades...therefore I am not going to answer the crap he posted in his thread just after I posted that I did not want any controversy until the live show other than this.....[color=red][b] LET ME SAY THIS TO YOU..THE ONLY (2 PERSONS??) THAT I HAVE EVER GONE AFTER IN THIS SITE IS/ARE AUSLANCO AND YOU...[u]I...

Grow up.
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