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  • #201
  • Feb 21, 2009 8:45pm Feb 21, 2009 8:45pm
Quoting wwwin
The only thing that I would add is that Shakes has recently stated that he usually trades in seconds, but that for the exhibtion he will slow it down so that everybody can see what he is doing. I am concerned that doing that would change the way he trades and thus he might not be able to attain results comparable to prior 30 days' average.
How In(?)convenient!
Living the adventure in my head.
  • #202
  • Edited 9:49pm Feb 21, 2009 9:24pm | Edited 9:49pm
Quoting Leonlorenzo
How In(?)convenient!
Yes, I would think that slowing down the trading would be an incovenience, the timing would be thrown off. In addition, Shakes also states that he will be trading both his regular account and a demo account at the same time, which will be an additional inconvenience. That is why a lot of us suggested a live chat, where he would just trade in his regular manner in his regular account, and just say "long" "short" "move stop" and we would all be able to follow in real time in our own platforms. I guess he knows best why he will be inconvenienced so very much. For this reason, among others, I want Shakes to know that I really do appreciate all he has done and for the manner that he has behaved throughout the scrutiniy. My only objection is the banning of people just asking relevant questions. But again, everyone has different reasons for doing different things. Having said that, although, Shakes has behaved like a gentleman, with me, I am afraid that I cannot say the same thing about his cult like followers. I will like to add that Shakes is welcome to post here at any time, eventhough we are not allowed to do the same thing at this thread.
  • #203
  • Feb 21, 2009 9:48pm Feb 21, 2009 9:48pm
Thread out of the Trash. So I guess the blood of pinch wasn't shed in vain.
  • #204
  • Feb 21, 2009 10:41pm Feb 21, 2009 10:41pm
Jwentro, wwwin,

Perhaps the translation is the problem, that's was my point about the forum wwwin posted before.

wwwin, even your native languaje is spanish you don't write it very well, I can tell you at least 2 very big syntax mistakes in the little phrase you wrote (an easy one btw), maybe, just maybe, you have the same problem reading than writing spanish (maybe a lot of time without practicing spanish? just a guess, you know it better than I), therefore maybe, again, just maybe, you are missunderstanding what is being said there.

I can't find anyone there marketing shakes thread (method), only trying to understand it and trying to clarify the veracity of it, that was my point.

Te agradezco haberme dado la bienvenida, espero que ahora si me puedas entender.
  • #205
  • Edited 11:11pm Feb 21, 2009 10:48pm | Edited 11:11pm
Quoting edumir
Jwentro, wwwin,

Perhaps the translation is the problem, that's was my point about the forum wwwin posted before.

wwwin, even your native languaje is spanish you don't write it very well, I can tell you at least 2 very big syntax mistakes in the little phrase you wrote (an easy one btw), maybe, just maybe, you have the same problem reading than writing spanish (maybe a lot of time without practicing spanish? just a guess, you know it better than I), therefore maybe, again, just maybe, you are missunderstanding what is being said there.

I can't...
I really don't want to argue about who speaks better spanish or better english as that is irrelevant. Anyway, my post here did not say that Shakes was selling a product there. The marketing comment was made b/c I have seen Willowgal and others posting on other Forex sites, and linking Shakes' thread at FF to their post. Example http://www.forex-tsd.com/metatrader-...tml#post257678 I don't think that is wrong and I am sure that FF likes it. My post merely suggested an explanation as to why Shakes wanted at least 500 viewers, which had some perplexed. Nothing more nothing less.

Now why is it always that people who post on Shakes thread simply gloss over ALL the words of any posts in this thread and notice only the parts that anger THEM?

If you cared to notice, i simply stated, " Because we like to be fair, I would like to admit that we may have misunderstood the requirement that the live show needed to accomodate at least 500 viewers. Crossover dreams have been realized by the current object of our affection. We understimated his and his alies' marketing ability. The exhibition will be be watched by spanish speaking only audiences as well. http://www.forex.es/shakesfx-system-t916-40.html" !!

I hope that clears any confusion and thank you again.
  • #206
  • Feb 21, 2009 11:38pm Feb 21, 2009 11:38pm
Ok, i'll take your word for it, no more argue.
  • #207
  • Edited 3:35am Feb 22, 2009 3:21am | Edited 3:35am
Hi...

I know the thread starter will tell me if I am getting out of line here....

But Back to that DenverTrader...thread..

I guess we have all had high pressure salesman come knocking on the door...

Do these combination of passages from the one post bring back memories of those times..

"You have missed some important trading and training that we do in real time on skype. "

"I will continue to do my best, but during fast market shifts you will not be informed of whats happening with me/my group. (unless you are on my email list.)"

"Sign up now to get on my email list."

"People who have PMed me their e-mail address and have recieved the needed training,... did some insane stuff this morning."


Sure rings some bells for me....It's a common theme, but as I dont think buying anything has ever been mentioned as yet....I only bring it up as a a note of caution..Most people can make up there own minds on these matters...its not for me to do it for you..
  • #208
  • Feb 22, 2009 7:27am Feb 22, 2009 7:27am
Quoting Angler
Hi...

I know the thread starter will tell me if I am getting out of line here....

But Back to that DenverTrader...thread..

I guess we have all had high pressure salesman come knocking on the door...

Do these combination of passages from the one post bring back memories of those times..

"You have missed some important trading and training that we do in real time on skype. "

[color=blue]"I will continue to do my best, but during fast market shifts you will not be informed of whats happening with me/my group. (unless...
Congratulations Angler. I think you hit the nail in the head. If those are not sale tactics then I don't know what is .http://www.forexfactory.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
  • #209
  • Feb 22, 2009 10:40am Feb 22, 2009 10:40am
Quoting Angler

I know the thread starter will tell me if I am getting out of line here....
I'll never tell anyone they are out of line unless it is constant off topic bickering.



I completely agree with your assessment of Denvertrader.

His thread is definitely turning into the "let me sell you my signals" type of thread.
  • #210
  • Feb 22, 2009 6:48pm Feb 22, 2009 6:48pm
Quoting wwwin
I really don't want to argue about who speaks better spanish or better english as that is irrelevant. Anyway, my post here did not say that Shakes was selling a product there. The marketing comment was made b/c I have seen Willowgal and others posting on other Forex sites, and linking Shakes' thread at FF to their post. Example http://www.forex-tsd.com/metatrader-...tml#post257678 I don't think that is wrong and I am sure that FF likes it. My post merely suggested an explanation as to why Shakes wanted at least...

Hi folks,

after seeing that good old Shakes has not given any evidence of his trades, I thought I will try to trade my way trying to double my demo account within one trade - actually a bunch of trades made at a similar time. It took me around 4/5 hours to double my demo account trading always 1% MM. I decided to do this with a 1000K account. Bear in mind that the same trade could have being done with a 1K, 10K etc. account.

So, if I post in this forum (and this will be the only forum were I will post Shakes - you know what I mean) only the words above without any evidence - and this is what good old Shakes is doing all the time, nobody would believe me. Ok, maybe some newbies would believe me, because we all know that as a newbie we have only a low critical attitude. And Newbies, take into account that I was for a long time also a newbie and today sometimes I am stil a newbie And I don't think I ever will become an oldie: forex is a way too big for me

So dear Shakes, of course one can trade in a way other traders would not believe that it is possible. So for the sake of a common sense truth one should give a common sense evidence, don't you think?

Its funny, but this guy inspired me to trade - not the way he does, but in an "no-normal" way. I have a proposal for you Shakes: we both apply for a demo contest and the winner should be the one that can in a short time - 1 to 3 months - double or tripple or or his account. Not who has made the most units because in this market all comes down to: how much do you have earn. And everyone can follow What do you think? I am writing you from this free treath because you know you banned me for saying that my broker is FXCM do you remember? All the best, joh
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  • #211
  • Feb 22, 2009 6:56pm Feb 22, 2009 6:56pm
Quoting johannnes
Hi folks,

after seeing that good old Shakes has not given any evidence of his trades, I thought I will try to trade my way trying to double my demo account within one trade - actually a bunch of trades made at a similar time. It took me around 4/5 hours to double my demo account trading always 1% MM. I decided to do this with a 1000K account. Bear in mind that the same trade could have being done with a 1K, 10K etc. account.

So, if I post in this forum (and this will be the only forum were I will post Shakes - you know what I mean) only the...
Welcome and thanks for the post. Excellent results, Thanks for posting the account details. I will study your system. May have some questions later.
  • #212
  • Feb 22, 2009 7:16pm Feb 22, 2009 7:16pm
Has anybody received the PM from shakes to register for the exhibtion. I have not received yet. Thanks
  • #213
  • Feb 22, 2009 7:22pm Feb 22, 2009 7:22pm
Hi...


Interesting chart there wwwin....


I hope that shakesFX....will be calling the trades BEFORE the event as claimed on another forum and being checked by other live traders also claimed he has been doing..

Maybe I was asleep when he did this on his thread..

Anyway...the other forum has now been informed BY SHAKES that he is doing live trading .....he is busy getting the word out there..
  • #214
  • Feb 22, 2009 7:44pm Feb 22, 2009 7:44pm
I am waiting for the PM, hopefully will get it today. What foum are you talking about Dr. Watson.

Quoting Angler
Hi...


Interesting chart there wwwin....


I hope that shakesFX....will be calling the trades BEFORE the event as claimed on another forum and being checked by other live traders also claimed he has been doing..

Maybe I was asleep when he did this on his thread..

Anyway...the other forum has now been informed BY SHAKES that he is doing live trading .....he is busy getting the word out there..
  • #215
  • Feb 22, 2009 8:01pm Feb 22, 2009 8:01pm
hi all...

The forum that I was talking about is BabyPips....

For a man so busy setting up his live trading...and cant chat with the followers of his method...he manages to go edit posts on the other forum that are a few weeks old...and now new posting over there.....

I know I am silly....but I would think getting online here and answering questions, posting charts showing why a particular trade was taken and so on would have been handy for the those following...but no....not sharing much in that sense of sharing...
  • #216
  • Feb 22, 2009 8:07pm Feb 22, 2009 8:07pm
Quoting johannnes
Hi folks,

after seeing that good old Shakes has not given any evidence of his trades, I thought I will try to trade my way trying to double my demo account within one trade - actually a bunch of trades made at a similar time. It took me around 4/5 hours to double my demo account trading always 1% MM. I decided to do this with a 1000K account. Bear in mind that the same trade could have being done with a 1K, 10K etc. account.

So, if I post in this forum (and this will be the only forum were I will post Shakes - you know what I mean) only the...
I seriously doubt that he will accept. I offered him to both deposit $500 on an FXCM micro to enter the $25,000 King of Micro and if either of us won, to donate the $25,000.00 to charity. DENIED. Well I feel priviledged, at least he didn't ban me for metioning FXCM. Soon after, I was BANNED for asking a simple question about how he moved his stops. And if he takes you on, can I join the challenge too?
  • #217
  • Edited 9:23pm Feb 22, 2009 9:08pm | Edited 9:23pm
Hey ShakeY, I never got the PM from u to register. Thanks a lot buddy. I doesnt' matter how nice and polite I am to you. It makes no diffrence,so what's the point? You always let me down. You sure keep your promises. Anyway, somebody PM me with IT OK, SO I WILL BE WATCHING I ALREADY REGISTERED FOR THE 3 DAYS....I DONT WANT TO LEARN THE SYSTEM I DONT WANT THEORY I AM DUMB I COULD NEVER LEARN IT..I WANT TO SEE YOU TRADE AS YOU USUALLY DO...OK? HOW IS THAT...IN SECONDS OK??? DON'T SLOW IT DOWN, AND BY THE WAY THANKS FOR NOT SENDING THE REGISTRATION INFORMATION, TCHAO
  • #218
  • Feb 22, 2009 9:46pm Feb 22, 2009 9:46pm
Quoting wwwin
Hey ShakeY, I never got the PM from u to register. Thanks a lot buddy. I doesnt' matter how nice and polite I am to you. It makes no diffrence,so what's the point? You always let me down. You sure keep your promises. Anyway, somebody PM me with IT OK, SO I WILL BE WATCHING I ALREADY REGISTERED FOR THE 3 DAYS....I DONT WANT TO LEARN THE SYSTEM I DONT WANT THEORY I AM DUMB I COULD NEVER LEARN IT..I WANT TO SEE YOU TRADE AS YOU USUALLY DO...OK? HOW IS THAT...IN SECONDS OK??? DON'T SLOW IT DOWN, AND BY THE WAY...
while we're on the subject of shakes, lets look at the excuses that have been put out thus far in case it doesnt work.


Trading two accounts (obviously will make it much slower)
intentionally trying to slow it down for other traders to see (obviously making it slower)
trading a different chart (obviously different)


Have i missed any??? im sure i have


why dont you just admit you wont be trading your real strategy for all to see? if any profits are made during the exhibition i will classify it as luck.


willowgal will be able to come to your defense though

"this isnt shakes true method, he slowed it down for you"


give me a break, the prices only move so far in a short timespan, and you can't collect 30 pips by buying at 11730, selling at 11730, then buying again at 11730 in a span of 3 minutes.... if that was the case im almost positive of two things:

spreads on eurjpy would be much higher.
every idiot in the world could trade shakes strategy.




you know a live seminar of 5 people connecting to your computer is all you needed to do. thanks for delaying this long though, im jumping with anticipation.
  • #219
  • Edited 10:28pm Feb 22, 2009 10:18pm | Edited 10:28pm
Hi...

Yes I agree...Jwentro

The basis for this live trading was to prove that it could be done the way he started his thread......thats all as far as I am concerned...

Some where its been twisted to a educational session......well he has had a Month to help people by posting charts and discussing it online...but since debate started over this method...he has not traded online and has hardly ever been around on his thread to answer questions and post charts( as I said in a previous post)

At a minimun....the first day should be his original trading method....using ONLY the BLACK LINE and a price display , NO tick charts, NO prior price levels( remember its the NOW ), NO high and lows of previous days, and trading as he had been on the thread....AND as Stated in BabyPips,,trades called BEFORE the event
  • #220
  • Edited Feb 23, 2009 12:17am Feb 22, 2009 11:09pm | Edited Feb 23, 2009 12:17am
Quoting Angler
Hi...

Yes I agree...Jwentro

The basis for this live trading was to prove that it could be done the way he started his thread......thats all as far as I am concerned...

Some where its been twisted to a educational session......well he has had a Month to help people by posting charts and discussing it online...but since debate started over this method...he has not traded online and has hardly ever been around on his thread to answer questions and post charts( as I said in a previous post)

At a minimun....the first day should be his original...
I have performed some yoga exercises so I wll be polite..Dr.Watson I went to babypips and found the thread. Here is the link for eveyone to read, so the cult member followers do not accuse me of taking things out of context and start spamming with PMs.
http://forums.babypips.com/free-fore...html#post91268
I will just quote a few parts here, so the unaware could understand why Shakey upsets us more than anyone has ever had in the history of FF. I am beginning to think that that is what he wants. He sure is good at it. Anyhow, just a couple of well...how can I put it mildly...(deep breath)... a couple of untrue statements...

"So fishy that a thread “Flaming” this method was sent to the recycle bin on forex factory and the thread starter banned......Hello, have we met before? LOL"

Not true...Pinchapip was banned because of other matters, everyone here knows that. I dont' want to write here why, anyone can search Pinchapip and the reason is stated there in his profile. Basically, you made him so mad that he temporarily became irrational. OK. that is the truth and can be verified at Pinchapips' profile. In addition, don't pat yourself on the back, the thread ban had nothing to do with whether your system is suspect or not. The thread was banned after you and your cult member followers taunted us so much that we also became temporarily irrational. The proof can be seen here, this thread is a parody of your methods, a permanent record so to speak, for future newbies to learn from. Last time I checked, it was not in the recycle bin, and if I keep practicing yoga before posting, it should not be there again.

"So fishy that my 8000 pips obtained between two lots in one month, each of the 400 trades recorded and time stamped in each post and viewed LIVE by over 50 traders at the same time INSTANTANEOUSLY is a complete conspiracy, something to do with UFO’s I hear."

I hate to have to keep repeating the same thing again and again, but how many times do I have to say that you trade on "seconds" and the time stamp at FF does not record seconds, only hours and minutes. Of course Shakey does not post this here, but at babypips, where most people would not know.

NOW AFTER ALL OF THESE MISREPRESENTATIONS, DO YOU STILL WANT US TO TRUST YOU AND BELIEVE, W/O ANY PROOF WHATSOVER, THAT YOU ARE THE BEST TRADER THE WORLD HAS EVER KNOWN??? DON'T YOU SEE THAT THE REASON WHY WE BELIEVE THAT THE "LIVE EXHIBITION???" IS GOING TO BE A FARCE, IS NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE IMPROBABILITY THAT YOUR CLAIMS CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED BY ANYONE, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF THE WAY YOU CONDUCT YOURSELF???

A COUPLE OF TIMES I HAVE BEEN READY TO WALK AWAY FROM THIS B/C IT IS COUNTER PRODUCTIVE. BUT YOU SEEM TO HAVE PERFECT TIMING. YOUR FOOLISHNESS BRINGS ME RIGHT BACK IN.
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