the ellipses from hussin naiji's view

Hi Hussin,

Interested to hear more from you, keep it up bro.

regards,

riff

Mr Hussain,

I wish I can be Hassan. This is very interesting. Keep it up.

You believe in slow and steady Hussin dont you? well

Not trying to rush you, but my understand about human beings is that we tend to forget what we learn if the lesson is too slow. on the other hand we learn faster if the lesson comes on consistent basis.
Im saying you might want to increase your tempo a little if you really want to share this itresting system with us

are you going to be sharing your information?
It looks to me like you use some kind of mathematical calculation to determine this, as in your image. but i still dont see how this is not lagging. Although even after it happened it wud still be quite usefull as you know theres a probability of the trend ending i suppose.
I think a few of us are genuinly interested to hear about it. But i dont think ur ready to share.

thanks riff

thanks msmsms
you wish you can be hassan why hassan !

pip-stud , before i have said to you hurry is the devil's wont .
you can not determine for me my tempo for post
i have not time for post in my thread (daily candle chart )
therefore my tempo of post in this thread have connection with my self

you are right !!
therefore this is better that you use from other system trading no this system . also i think , you are wasting your time in this thread .
because this is logical that if you see somebody is not ready to share , you
are kept waiting him share .
Good-bye !

Hussin,

I'm following your new thread with great interest my friend.
(I do miss you daily candle analysis though)

Rob

If not Hassan, Ali would be exact.

Deer Hussin
I am one of your followers in your daily candle thread. I am happy that you started this new thread. Please keep on your work and do not let scammers stop your new effort. We are eagerly waiting to understand your new system
Deer Hussin, we (in Egypt) have a proverv the sayes" the man how does not know you can not appreciate you" . Please forgive those how do not know you and focus on your work.
N.B for those how do not know Hussin, he is one of the best traders and teachers I have known in the ff. Follow hem and well get huge knowledge and profit.

good post my friend, lets keep this thread clean like the other

To anyone that visits this thread

Hussins work has proven itself over time to be some of the best. He does not have the best internet connection where he lives and does the best he can with what he is given.

What and when he shares is completely within his power to do so as this is HIS thread, if you do not, can not or will not or it does not fit into YOUR time frame or schedule or thinking then find a thread that does. it really is that simple

There are toooooo many people that post in all sorts of threads negative posts and I will never understand that mentality....guess my mother taught m better.

if you have nothing to add and do not want to learn from this thread.....dont ruin it for those of us that do..............that is also quite simple

again Thanks

it all comes down to respect, what about YOU??

Based on an earlier post I have an idea that he has done substantial research into this subject and there will be great value in this thread.... as in the candlestick thread.


dave

I"ve been using ellipses for years. For best results "squaring the chart" or scaling the chart harmonically will yield the best results.

Find 2-3 instances of elliptical price containment and major axis angle and then use that as a template for future ellipses.

First chart is an ellipse on the daily chart from back 2006. Price target was the 1.2525 area and time target was aprox. 52 bars away.

Second chart shows price getting hit although a little late. How I traded this is documented over at moneytec somewhere.

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9...30a2db2.th.gif

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9...6a12ii1.th.gif

The chart below are done with squared 5 min. chart. The red ellipse is the "root". From that ellipse, the angle of mated ellipse can be found the termination point can be found in both price and time. If the mate proves true, geometric growth is found and subsequent ellipses can be drawn in.
both yellow ellipses on the chart below were drawn well before price filled them out. The fib arcs help determine ellipse termination points. (if you understand the concept of vectors and what an arc is it's all pretty simple.)

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/879...ep06vd5.th.gif


Also, there is a strong relationship between ellipses and triangles. Study up and it's not too hard to pick exact spots in both price and time for price is going. Just gotta be on the right side since the triangulation point doesn't tell the exact path price will take to get there. Price could rise into it or price can shoot up and then fall down into it.

For the Gann converts out there, divisions of price and time will usually correlate with ellipse start and termination points as well as the minor axis points. On the chart below you can see how the major gann degree vertical lines marked off market reactions. The degree horizontals also marked off significant areas of support/resistence. (The triangle played out perfect in this one, too.)

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6...ep06pe9.th.gif

My old blog goes into them a bit.
http://4xcycletrader.blogspot.com/2007/08/ellipse.html
http://4xcycletrader.blogspot.com/20...se-part-2.html

My journal here at ff also has some examples:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=42407


If you think about it, ellipses are one of the conic sections. The other conic sections are just as useful for trading. Ellipses are also a single slice of a larger structure.. the torus. Which in turn is part of a bigger structure.. the vortex. (Isn't a cone a similar shape as a vortex?) Once you understand these concepts and see how price/time can be mapped out into the future, you'll ditch all those wavy line lagging indicators all together.

I"ve got a new blog going now since blogspot sucks. If I have time, I'll get some more ellipse examples and explainations up. www.time-traders.com

jr97,

where do i start, which posting in your blog can i refer to. this is very new to me. i mean, stupid idiot guide to ellipse.

thanks

now weekly ellipse show us end of this ellipse.
exit from this weekly ellipse can help us for distinction next of USDYEN
IM waiting 4 exit from this ellipse

also my girl friend is helping to me for translation my papers from Persian language to English language
after to be completed , i will try post this subjects little by little
best regards
hussin

3 Identical Ellipses. Charts must be scaled for these to work.