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  • #21
  • Mar 20, 2007 9:14pm Mar 20, 2007 9:14pm
Would it be difficult to get fills on just a couple contracts during non NYC time? For instance, if I wanted to place a trade 10PM Est over Globex through my futures broker for 2 Swiss Franc futures, you suppose it would be quite difficult without severe spread from bid to ask?

I am kinda getting the picture of a $10 stock with 500 volume during the course of the day. Bid being $9.00 while ask being $11.00. Would this be a proper comparison to overnight currency futures trading?
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  • #22
  • Mar 20, 2007 9:31pm Mar 20, 2007 9:31pm
Right now I am seeing 93 bidding @ 0.8312
53 @ 0.8311
9 @ 0.8310

and 1 offering @ 0.8314
80 @ 0.8315
99 @ 0.8316

So fairly tight for evening hours.

I don't trade swissy myself.
  • #23
  • Mar 20, 2007 9:45pm Mar 20, 2007 9:45pm
Quoting SunTrader
Right now I am seeing 93 bidding @ 0.8312
53 @ 0.8311
9 @ 0.8310

and 1 offering @ 0.8314
80 @ 0.8315
99 @ 0.8316

So fairly tight for evening hours.

I don't trade swissy myself.
Thank you ST. I suppose I will open an account and see the ongoings.
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  • #24
  • Mar 20, 2007 11:16pm Mar 20, 2007 11:16pm
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A major difference between spot and futures is that futures have a certain delivery date in which you are obliged to close your position on either it's in green or red...Spot markets don't have this, as long as you are not in a margin call, literally you can hold forever...

I thought you can roll-over your position to continue holding the position ?


I have question for futures trader. If we are to buy a cotton contract, they have several delivery months there, how to choose which one to buy ?
  • #25
  • Mar 21, 2007 6:39am Mar 21, 2007 6:39am
Quoting luqmanz
I thought you can roll-over your position to continue holding the position ?


I have question for futures trader. If we are to buy a cotton contract, they have several delivery months there, how to choose which one to buy ?
There is something called the Spot Month. The closest month with the most volatility.

Dont just quote Livermore, read his books.
  • #26
  • Mar 21, 2007 7:30am Mar 21, 2007 7:30am
i like to do the tech analise in futures, since it has a large impact on forex (and vice versa), and is not the same as in forex, especially if we reach temporaly support or resistance,...if there is a dot in futures and no dot in forex, and lets say dailly charts, or 8 hours, it usually doesnt get to much over that S or R, and it do retrace a bit..., but its true what merlin said about market makers, brokers are usually a little gready if u place SL, i think they got only 1 button to press and the market moves in their way, so if u trade small lots with no SL and smart entry at forex, it shouldnt be hard...lol...but even since i got subaccount i can not hedge positions, if i dont use both...and since they move in similar way...this is the only way for me to lock the profit with hedging the contra position,...
its just money
  • #27
  • Mar 21, 2007 7:43am Mar 21, 2007 7:43am
Quoting luqmanz
I thought you can roll-over your position to continue holding the position ?


I have question for futures trader. If we are to buy a cotton contract, they have several delivery months there, how to choose which one to buy ?
I talked with a rep from one of the futures brokers and the delivery month really isn't a big issue. You can daytrade futures (I was told), the same way you can stocks or forex.

I dont know how cotton works, though there are delivery months or what ever they are called. Some futures have 4/year, others 6 still others 12. They have different tickers, so to buy the June futures in March.. you would simply need to put the ticker in (which is different than the Sept. ticker).

Don't take it for certain, I havent opened my account yet.
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  • #28
  • Mar 21, 2007 9:48am Mar 21, 2007 9:48am
You can learn all you want by just going to any of the appropriate exchanges such as www.cme.com
  • #29
  • Jun 7, 2007 12:51pm Jun 7, 2007 12:51pm
Quoting baboon
Futures traders can get their money out of refco. Those are Forex traders who have their accounts frozen by Refco so they can't withdraw their money.
Futures Accouts ARE segregated accounts, this means the brokers do not hold your money, an outside bank does for your benefit only. Unlike equity and Forex accounts the brokers can pay their electrical, water, cocktails..etc with your money; in other words those accounts are NOT segregated accounts.

Futures are regulated by the CFTC= Commodity Futures Trading Commission, and another entity NFA? Their transactions are guaranteed (unlike Forex) by a Clearing House, also futures are standard contracts operated by Exchanges and approved by the regulating government agencies above, and in the case of market indexes contracts are further regualted by the SEC Securities and Exchange Commission. Get the Commodity Trading Manual put out by the CBOT a bible of futures all you want to know about each future. Don't know if they still publish this book.
Be well.
  • #30
  • Aug 25, 2007 5:10am Aug 25, 2007 5:10am
on futures...by only 1 tick your already in profit..

i mean 1 pip
  • #31
  • Last Post: Sep 23, 2007 2:03am Sep 23, 2007 2:03am
I have a question best to post here:

Given futures and spot, which price feed on the chart is leader and which is the proxy/follower? Please help with some explanations.

Thank you.
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