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  • #521
  • Mar 15, 2007 8:58am Mar 15, 2007 8:58am
hello team

i would like to know if the bat line is above the swing line and i move the SL to the bat line, shuold i move also the swing line? please see the exampls for what i mean below.

Thank you for your efforts

simon
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  • #522
  • Mar 15, 2007 9:05am Mar 15, 2007 9:05am
Quoting luxinterior
I'm thinking you haven't read the pdf that CLEARLY outlines the method including the SL. Give it a go.

Lux
i have read it, and my test shows that the SL used now is too detrimental.
  • #523
  • Mar 15, 2007 9:10am Mar 15, 2007 9:10am
if u guys need to backtest the BAT atr in Mt4, i created an ea that allows u to trade live ...in the past. It works by using global variable.

just start the Test with visual mode enabled, drop the BAT atr on the chart. Press F3 to goto global variables.

in entry, use 1 for long and 2 for short.
close window

when u want to exit, press pause, press F3 to see variables and use place a '1' in the exit field.

it feels as if u executing orders yourself
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  • #524
  • Mar 15, 2007 9:47am Mar 15, 2007 9:47am
Quoting TeamAphid
We are long from 1.9334 + spread, it may be mt4 server difference.
Still in Trade. Currently +5 pips.
  • #525
  • Mar 15, 2007 8:01pm Mar 15, 2007 8:01pm
If the BAT line is above the swing line, your SL will be the BAT line. We use swing low/high -10/+10 pips for SL when BAT line is under the swing line.

When you move SL with BAT line, you shouldn't move your swing line no matter where your BAT line is. Because after determining the initial stop (swing low/high -10/+10 pips), swing line serves to draw fibo levels for range trading and those fibo levels are fixed, not moving with BAT line.


Quoting simonr
hello team

i would like to know if the bat line is above the swing line and i move the SL to the bat line, shuold i move also the swing line? please see the exampls for what i mean below.

Thank you for your efforts

simon
  • #526
  • Mar 15, 2007 8:04pm Mar 15, 2007 8:04pm
Still in trade with SL at 1.9326, just 8 pips of risk.

Quoting rosso832
Still in Trade. Currently +5 pips.
  • #527
  • Mar 16, 2007 10:12am Mar 16, 2007 10:12am
Team Aphid,

Do you trade this strategy with fixed lots (as described) or with fixed risk per position?

I think that the results are improved by applying a fixed risk per trade (or fixed percentage of account) & adjusting the lot size. I just wondered if you had considered this?

Thanks
  • #528
  • Mar 16, 2007 1:47pm Mar 16, 2007 1:47pm
Quoting TeamAphid
Still in trade with SL at 1.9326, just 8 pips of risk.
Yeah! Excellent TeamAphid!
I`ve got +120 pips, my first try with Bat method. In my opinion this method is profitable also for USD/JPY.

Let me tell ya, u guys are doin a great job, keep it up.

Thanx.
  • #529
  • Mar 17, 2007 3:51am Mar 17, 2007 3:51am
We trade fixed lots, but we use a money management technique to determine the lot size depending on our account balance.

Quoting charlies
Team Aphid,

Do you trade this strategy with fixed lots (as described) or with fixed risk per position?

I think that the results are improved by applying a fixed risk per trade (or fixed percentage of account) & adjusting the lot size. I just wondered if you had considered this?

Thanks
  • #530
  • Mar 18, 2007 1:36pm Mar 18, 2007 1:36pm
Quoting TeamAphid
If the BAT line is above the swing line, your SL will be the BAT line. We use swing low/high -10/+10 pips for SL when BAT line is under the swing line.

When you move SL with BAT line, you shouldn't move your swing line no matter where your BAT line is. Because after determining the initial stop (swing low/high -10/+10 pips), swing line serves to draw fibo levels for range trading and those fibo levels are fixed, not moving with BAT line.
could a diagram explain this? plz? i think i get what u are saying but nt 100% sure
  • #531
  • Mar 18, 2007 1:50pm Mar 18, 2007 1:50pm
ONCE entered, the bat can be used as a trailing stop. For the more conservative trader, u could add another BAT to the chart but this time use different colors and use a setting of 2x2 instead. Just a sugestion

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...1/battrail.gif
  • #532
  • Mar 18, 2007 7:48pm Mar 18, 2007 7:48pm
Please have a look at the charts #2,3, and 4 on pdf document explaining the strategy (post #35).


Quoting don perry
could a diagram explain this? plz? i think i get what u are saying but nt 100% sure
  • #533
  • Mar 20, 2007 12:18pm Mar 20, 2007 12:18pm
Sorry I couldn't find the answer to this question, but if you have a trigger for a short (hits blue bat line) and then the price zooms up and hits a trigger for a long (hits red line) do you close your previous short (don't wait to hit stoploss) and immediately open a long? Please look at the recent chart of the GBPJPY for an example of this. Thanks
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  • #534
  • Mar 20, 2007 6:21pm Mar 20, 2007 6:21pm
yes chantspel, close and reverse on each touch of the opposite batline.
its in the PDF
Its gonna happen, it will happen.....i know!
  • #535
  • Mar 21, 2007 7:17am Mar 21, 2007 7:17am
Not quite finished reading the entire thread but I have not been able to find the indicator FF ATR Trailing Stop v 1. nor is it on my MetaTrader station.
Can anyone tell me where I can download a copy please?

Thanks!
Betsy
  • #536
  • Mar 21, 2007 7:19am Mar 21, 2007 7:19am
Quoting befr
Not quite finished reading the entire thread but I have not been able to find the indicator FF ATR Trailing Stop v 1. nor is it on my MetaTrader station.
Can anyone tell me where I can download a copy please?

Thanks!
Betsy

Try post #35.
  • #537
  • Mar 21, 2007 7:21am Mar 21, 2007 7:21am
Quoting befr
Not quite finished reading the entire thread but I have not been able to find the indicator FF ATR Trailing Stop v 1. nor is it on my MetaTrader station.
Can anyone tell me where I can download a copy please?

Thanks!
Betsy
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...7&postcount=35
  • #538
  • Mar 21, 2007 7:52am Mar 21, 2007 7:52am
Thanks smjones and tim!

I did download that file - I didn't realize it included the FF ATR Trailing Stop v 1 indicator. Or am I confused about the two?
  • #539
  • Mar 21, 2007 5:11pm Mar 21, 2007 5:11pm
Has anyone had success at higher timeframes?
  • #540
  • Mar 21, 2007 7:03pm Mar 21, 2007 7:03pm
We have tried other time frames, we still believe 1H is the optimum one.

Quoting PTOURNIS
Has anyone had success at higher timeframes?
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