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  • #1,541
  • Dec 8, 2008 11:38am Dec 8, 2008 11:38am
Quoting ysewellam
Happy Eid to you Abu 3oon
happy aid my friend
  • #1,542
  • Dec 8, 2008 11:39am Dec 8, 2008 11:39am
Quoting avi
change life jim indi to 20-3-3 its brtter 0n 15 m
that is not my point. My point is that on 1 chart the indicator appears and on the other chart, the indicator is MISSING. If all the settings are similar, how can you produce 2 different outputs?

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all of the indicators repaint tremendously. take great care when using this "system". you can have your butt handed to you real quick.
i also know that. my point here is that similar settings produce 2 different outputs... something is wrong with the plotting of the indicator.

I'm not complaining about the repainting. I know the indicators repaint. Im enquiring about the inconsistency of the plotting.
  • #1,543
  • Dec 8, 2008 11:40am Dec 8, 2008 11:40am
Quoting seboileroom
Dear Pipologist99 and other fellow traderswho were alarmed by the repainting of the Belkhayate indicator (COG), it is well known that the center of gravity (COG) indicator is a repainting indicator (kindly refer to http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...nt#post2168927 and other COG threads), nevertheless, it has its followers and its repainting does not negate its value. there has been some efforts to remdy this feature and produce a COG that does not repaint. you can find more info on FF. Also for...
happy aid my dear long time .
  • #1,544
  • Dec 8, 2008 11:44am Dec 8, 2008 11:44am
Quoting thelws
that is not my point. My point is that one 1 chart the indicator appears and on the other chart, the indicator is MISSING. If all the settings are similar, how can you produce 2 different outputs?

i also know that. my point here is that similar settings produce 2 different outputs... something is wrong with the plotting of the indicator.

I'm not complaining about the repainting. I know the indicators repaint. Im enquiring about the inconsistency of the plotting.
my friend we are dealing with wide range in movement so if the 5 minute gives you short it will be lived for 50 pips and in the same time if the 4 hour gives you long it will be lived for hundreds of pips and at the start of the thread i talked about the system and how i deal with it and it is going good and i sayed to use the four hours time frame only and other traders companied there systems to trade even smaller time frames and that doesnt contrbuite with the system couse price moves in cycles ok it moves in a trend direction but with in cycles .
only experianed traders knows what i am taliking about .
my regards.
  • #1,545
  • Dec 8, 2008 12:01pm Dec 8, 2008 12:01pm
pipologist can you do me a favour and post the Oan indicators or template that is showing on your chart im a bit lost I have the following zip files

Arabictrader
Godfather
Leo
Orabi
Forgive me

Or if any one else can give me the template to use here is the post I have it seems nothing that produces the numbers or the spikes in the bottom panes


http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...postcount=1528

cheers

Paulus
  • #1,546
  • Dec 8, 2008 12:09pm Dec 8, 2008 12:09pm
Oan, thanks a lot for sharing your great system!
Happy Eid to you and all!
  • #1,547
  • Dec 8, 2008 12:41pm Dec 8, 2008 12:41pm
Quoting Fx_Pipin
Trades taken using the orabi TPL. Trying out the one hour time frame.
No good. I will stick with the 4hr time frame.
  • #1,548
  • Dec 8, 2008 12:49pm Dec 8, 2008 12:49pm
Quoting oan4fx
[font=Arial Black][size=5][color=red]my friend we are dealing with wide range in movement so if the 5 minute gives you short it will be lived for 50 pips and in the same time if the 4 hour gives you long it will be lived for hundreds of pips and at the start of the thread i talked about the system and how i deal with it and it is going good and i sayed to use the four hours time frame only and other traders companied there systems to trade even smaller time frames and that doesnt contrbuite with the system couse price moves in cycles ok it moves...
Ok, I'm sorry if I haven't been clear enough. I know exactly what you are talking about. I just wanted to bring to attention that there is a problem with the plotting of the indicators.

1) I used long time frames. In the picture where I showed the inconsistency of the abha timer, I used 4h time frames.
2) In the picture where I showed inconsistency with the jim indicator, I was using 1 hour time frame.

I know indicators repaint. I know the system works best on 4 hour time frames.

My point is:
Given that both charts uses the SAME SETTINGS, I got 2 DIFFERENT results.

There is inconsistency in the way the indicator is charted.
  • #1,549
  • Dec 8, 2008 1:03pm Dec 8, 2008 1:03pm
Quoting Paulus
pipologist can you do me a favour and post the Oan indicators or template that is showing on your chart im a bit lost I have the following zip files

Arabictrader
Godfather
Leo
Orabi
Forgive me

Or if any one else can give me the template to use here is the post I have it seems nothing that produces the numbers or the spikes in the bottom panes


http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...postcount=1528

cheers

Paulus

Just to reinforce my position that I know what I'm talking about and that I have indeed been testing all the systems since it started.

Here are all the templates thats have been used so far in chronological order (01 is the first ever template, 10 is the last template so far)

On top of that, I even have the templates that were used by paulus and behof. The template that I use currently is behof's version of godfather with a few indicators from Paulus's oan.

Again... I want to bring to attention that there are inconsistencies with the way the indicators are plotted because on similar settings, I obtain 2 different outputs. I'm not discrediting the efforts that oan and his friends have put in to this thread. I actually will go live with this system next month.

I just want to bring to awareness that the Jim and Abha indicator has a little bit of issues.
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  • #1,550
  • Dec 8, 2008 1:51pm Dec 8, 2008 1:51pm
This is the first time that I write, but I have to follow the thread from the beginning.
I want to thank Oan, for their help and their work, and then to all who continue to make possible this thread. This is my reward after following the rules, last night between short in US / CH, and I had gone very well. I encourage Oan, to continue to help us, Thank you to all who share information freely.
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  • #1,551
  • Dec 8, 2008 3:30pm Dec 8, 2008 3:30pm
HAPPY EID to oan and every other brother here
  • #1,552
  • Dec 8, 2008 4:37pm Dec 8, 2008 4:37pm
Quoting thelws
I just want to bring to awareness that the Jim and Abha indicator has a little bit of issues.
Hi thelws,

The indicator repaints and you know that, so don't worry. If you change the time frame, it will be fixed (it happens due to the repainting & recession during the formation of a signal, so don't worry) and you'll take an advantage of it when you monitor the price action between the different time frames, then you'll start thinking of either; Averaging "if you're already in", or you'll enter in the opposite direction for a quick hunt.

Got it my friend?
Sniffing Snake's Tracks...
  • #1,553
  • Dec 8, 2008 4:49pm Dec 8, 2008 4:49pm
Quoting FX.Sniffer
Hi thelws,

The indicator repaints and you know that, so don't worry. If you change the time frame, it will be fixed (it happens due to the repainting & recession during the formation of a signal, so don't worry) and you'll take an advantage of it when you monitor the price action between the different time frames, then you'll start thinking of either; Averaging "if you're already in", or you'll enter in the opposite direction for a quick hunt.[color=royalblue]...
what is the best priod no for this indi?
  • #1,554
  • Dec 8, 2008 4:58pm Dec 8, 2008 4:58pm
Quoting krakof
last night between short in US / CH, and I had gone very well. I encourage Oan, to continue to help us, Thank you to all who share information freely.
Hi, Kra,

Watch for your exits on the one hour if you're still in, & monitoring it on the 4H. I couldn't see your chart to tell.

Cheers,
Sniffing Snake's Tracks...
  • #1,555
  • Dec 8, 2008 5:03pm Dec 8, 2008 5:03pm
Quoting avi
what is the best priod no for this indi?
Jumping between 4H and 1H, it's more relaxing than the 15min if you can manage a standard lot, and your margin won't scream out of panic. That's if your question about the TF, but if you're pointing at the inputs of the ind then I use it as it is in the template of deadsoul, we all are using the same setup and no updates for it until now.

Cheers,
Sniffing Snake's Tracks...
  • #1,556
  • Dec 8, 2008 5:11pm Dec 8, 2008 5:11pm
Quoting FX.Sniffer
Jumping between 4H and 1H, it's more relaxing than the 15min if you can manage a standard lot, and your margin won't scream out of panic.

Cheers,
i mean length-, h_ priod ,l_priod, c _priod
  • #1,557
  • Dec 8, 2008 5:19pm Dec 8, 2008 5:19pm
Quoting FX.Sniffer
Jumping between 4H and 1H, it's more relaxing than the 15min if you can manage a standard lot, and your margin won't scream out of panic. That's if your question about the TF, but if you're pointing at the inputs of the ind then I use it as it is in the template of deadsoul, we all are using the same setup and no updates for it until now.

Cheers,
the best no priod is 20,3,3 then 12,5,3
  • #1,558
  • Dec 8, 2008 5:20pm Dec 8, 2008 5:20pm
Quoting avi
i mean length-, h_ priod ,l_priod, c _priod
I figured out your question and edited my post before seeing this one. Anyway, plz tell me which indicator you're asking about?
Sniffing Snake's Tracks...
  • #1,559
  • Dec 8, 2008 5:44pm Dec 8, 2008 5:44pm
Quoting FX.Sniffer
I figured out your question and edited my post before seeing this one. Anyway, plz tell me which indicator you're asking about?
first try priod no 20,3,3 for #00 zz window. ineed the no for candle average
  • #1,560
  • Dec 8, 2008 6:03pm Dec 8, 2008 6:03pm
Quoting avi
first try priod no 20,3,3 for #00 zz window. ineed the no for candle average
Here goes: 4, 1, 1, 3.

Your zz periods are good n gonna monitor them, but there is an advantage of the old settings if you wanna average on the 1H from the beginning of the signal on 4H (that's only if the trend is matching on both TFs).

If not, then ride the trend on the 1H for 50-100pips, then again return back to monitoring the 4H.

Cool?!
Sniffing Snake's Tracks...
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