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  • #321
  • Edited Nov 12, 2008 8:15pm Nov 11, 2008 10:29pm | Edited Nov 12, 2008 8:15pm
b.t.w. - new toy 4 Sto fans: stochings with any ma imaginable(almost : )), choose your poison - by Igorad


//| AllStochastics_v2.mq4 |
//| Copyright 2007-08, TrendLaboratory |
//| http://finance....../TrendLaboratory |
//| E-mail: [email protected] |
//+------------------------------------------------------------------+
// List of MAs:
(sto Smooz mode, sto sig.mode)

// MA_Method= 0: SMA - Simple Moving Average
// MA_Method= 1: EMA - Exponential Moving Average
// MA_Method= 2: Wilder - Wilder Exponential Moving Average
// MA_Method= 3: LWMA - Linear Weighted Moving Average
// MA_Method= 4: SineWMA - Sine Weighted Moving Average
// MA_Method= 5: TriMA - Triangular Moving Average
// MA_Method= 6: LSMA - Least Square Moving Average (or EPMA, Linear Regression Line)
// MA_Method= 7: SMMA - Smoothed Moving Average
// MA_Method= 8: HMA - Hull Moving Average by Alan Hull
// MA_Method= 9: ZeroLagEMA - Zero-Lag Exponential Moving Average
// MA_Method=10: DEMA - Double Exponential Moving Average by Patrick Mulloy
// MA_Method=11: T3 - T3 by T.Tillson
// MA_Method=12: ITrend - Instantaneous Trendline by J.Ehlers
// MA_Method=13: Median - Moving Median
// MA_Method=14: GeoMean - Geometric Mean
// MA_Method=15: REMA - Regularized EMA by Chris Satchwell
// MA_Method=16: ILRS - Integral of Linear Regression Slope
// MA_Method=17: IE/2 - Combination of LSMA and ILRS


Sto_Period = 5;
Smooth = 3;
Signal = 3;

SmoothMode = 0;
SignalMode = 0

info:
http://www.forex-tsd.com/211727-post105.html
allma latest version (v2.2):
http://www.forex-tsd.com/221038-post342.html

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p.s. + jma sto; jma wpr(DM_35); jma(Spiggy) -counted bars sensitive
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File Type: mq4 MA_AllAverages_v2.2_mtf.mq4   17 KB | 1,108 downloads
File Type: mq4 JMA_WPR.mq4   14 KB | 1,213 downloads
File Type: mq4 sto_JMA_Stochastic_KDSL.mq4   15 KB | 1,399 downloads
  • #322
  • Nov 12, 2008 2:56am Nov 12, 2008 2:56am
Well, 13thheaven, regarding the examples, I thought to put actual images of the charts on witch stoch gives the x, y, z signal and so on but I didn't just because of one reason: I don't encourage trading purely mecanicly... that's why I state in the pdf something like "apply these techniques in accordance with the basic concepts of trend trading). So... that's why I preferred to use the current method. However, in a future version, I might put some charts on the end of the doc, showing some live signal examples Glad to here that it's nice and helpful.

Fxxx, 10x for the indis... will be checked

Green pips everyone!
  • #323
  • Nov 12, 2008 8:11pm Nov 12, 2008 8:11pm

4 full happiness - JMA_WPR.mq4 & JMA_Stochastic added (just in case)
post 321 http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=321
  • #324
  • Nov 13, 2008 1:49am Nov 13, 2008 1:49am
Quoting fxxx

4 full happiness...
postcount=321[/url]
that was cool... it's somehow in relation wit the movie "Pursuit of happiness" - I like the movie.

10x for the indis... I like that the last stoch u posted (jma) is less noisy than the classic stoch
  • #325
  • Nov 13, 2008 8:34am Nov 13, 2008 8:34am
yea, that what Jma suppose to do (fast, smooz and adaptive ma)
nice thread - thought you, guys, can find good use for it
...but i don't know any secret ...
p.s. Spud, Boxing4life -they all know secrets, and i - dont...
  • #326
  • Nov 18, 2008 10:53am Nov 18, 2008 10:53am
Where did everybody go?
I guess everyone is busy making pips, ain't so?
  • #327
  • Nov 18, 2008 1:01pm Nov 18, 2008 1:01pm
Quoting fxxx
yea, that what Jma suppose to do (fast, smooz and adaptive ma)
nice thread - thought you, guys, can find good use for it
...but i don't know any secret ...
p.s. Spud, Boxing4life -they all know secrets, and i - dont...

FX, I used to think the secrets were out of my reach, but it just takes some testing, watching and demoing to try different things with the Stochastics. Now I see Stochastics I may favorite indicator. It is a very flexible indicator too. It works well on different TFs.

Red, We're still around. Just trying to make pips.
  • #328
  • Nov 18, 2008 2:05pm Nov 18, 2008 2:05pm
checking in to say hi.

Hey RedTrader,

I would like to share another aspect of using stochastics. It is not my invention however it is seldom discussed.

Trendline break on Stochs, normally I use them to anticipate signal earlier rather than wait for the 50 line to cross. Especially useful when the price action itself is not very clear and when the stoch readings are just zig zagging with no clear indication.

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Test it out and tell me if it is useful for you.

Regards.
  • #329
  • Nov 19, 2008 1:00pm Nov 19, 2008 1:00pm
Quoting aiyahmarklah
I would like to share another aspect of using stochastics. It is not my invention however it is seldom discussed.

Trendline break on Stochs, normally I use them to anticipate signal earlier rather than wait for the 50 line to cross. Especially useful when the price action itself is not very clear and when the stoch readings are just zig zagging with no clear indication.

Attachment

Test it out and tell me if it is useful for you.

Regards.
I remember that I tried using stoch in this manner and I'd even researched the classic chart patterns - if they apply pr not on stoch (pt like double buttom, hs etc.) I observed that if I use a trend line on stoch I obtain more or much the same story as I obtained if I would have used the line on the chart (maybe I'm missing something ). Well, if the price is zigzagging then the it is preparing for a bigger move and in order to know the direction I use a bigger tf.

Really, I would like to see some interesting samples regarding this procedure - using trendlines on stoch,
  • #330
  • Nov 19, 2008 7:45pm Nov 19, 2008 7:45pm
Red & Kudz,

I've started using OsMA with my Stochastics with great results. Take a look. Big E
  • #331
  • Nov 19, 2008 9:40pm Nov 19, 2008 9:40pm
Quoting eelfranz
Red & Kudz,

I've started using OsMA with my Stochastics with great results. Take a look. Big E

Great to hear that. I'll put it up on a chart and see what it does.
What settings are you using?
  • #332
  • Nov 19, 2008 10:28pm Nov 19, 2008 10:28pm
Here is another multi-Stoch template I am forward testing.

The Stochastic lines are 24, 38, 49, 62 and 99

when the lines converge and fall thru the 90 line on both the M5 and M15 chart it is an opportunity to SELL

when the lines converge and rise thru the 10 line on both the M5 and M15 chart it is an opportunity to BUY

the RSI is there just to comfirm the strength of price direction. This is a 10 RSI with 30 and 70 lines since this RSI does not stay long above the 70 or below the 30.

the charts below show a couple of recent set ups
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  • #333
  • Nov 20, 2008 2:58am Nov 20, 2008 2:58am
Quoting eelfranz
Red & Kudz,

I've started using OsMA with my Stochastics with great results. Take a look. Big E
I'm using OsMA - the classic setting - and stoch, together to confirm divergences

Kud, your multi-Stoch appears to be working quite well. The only disadvantage that I see, seems to be the fact that you receive signals not so often but, on the other hand, when received, the signal it's powerful. Question: you want to use it as a purely mechanical system or in accord with the chart lines? It looks good
  • #334
  • Nov 20, 2008 6:08pm Nov 20, 2008 6:08pm
Quoting KudzuFX
Here is another multi-Stoch template I am forward testing.

The Stochastic lines are 24, 38, 49, 62 and 99

when the lines converge and fall thru the 90 line on both the M5 and M15 chart it is an opportunity to SELL

when the lines converge and rise thru the 10 line on both the M5 and M15 chart it is an opportunity to BUY

the RSI is there just to comfirm the strength of price direction. This is a 10 RSI with 30 and 70 lines since this RSI does not stay long above the 70 or below the 30.

the charts below show a couple of recent set ups
Hi Kudzu

In many ways, a choice as good as any other. But why, precisely, these values? I always like to crunch the maths.......

CB
  • #335
  • Nov 20, 2008 7:11pm Nov 20, 2008 7:11pm
Quoting urchman
unfortunately 'GRKFX' you got it all wrong ...you can see wit my trade .MR. Stoch is 'one" of my weapon of mass piping im 106 pips up on uj and it's still rocking....you got it wrong
Hi

What MA's You are using ?

You are using it for the weekky trade Frame so what is your entery method and exit relating to the MA's ..Thanks
  • #336
  • Edited 11:28pm Nov 20, 2008 11:15pm | Edited 11:28pm
Quoting Codebreaker
Hi Kudzu

In many ways, a choice as good as any other. But why, precisely, these values? I always like to crunch the maths.......

CB

those are based on Fibonacci numbers.

I have also tried this using 5, 25, 49, 75 and 99

of all these stoch lines, I find that the 50 and 100 are more significance in identifying the possible start of a new trend. the others just help in showing how lines converge on multiple time frames when price is going to turn into a trend (of course, we cannot know how long that trend will be)
  • #337
  • Nov 20, 2008 11:26pm Nov 20, 2008 11:26pm
Quoting RedTrader
I'm using OsMA - the classic setting - and stoch, together to confirm divergences

Kud, your multi-Stoch appears to be working quite well. The only disadvantage that I see, seems to be the fact that you receive signals not so often but, on the other hand, when received, the signal it's powerful. Question: you want to use it as a purely mechanical system or in accord with the chart lines? It looks good

about the frequency of signals - I suppose it is possible to confirm the lines converging at the 90% line or 10% line) on the M1 and M5 charts. Although, for me watching the M1 chart for too long makes me feel like I'm stuck on the George Washington Bridge with cars going every which way.
however, it someone where to confirm on the M1 and M5 chart they should plan to exit with no more than 10 to 15 pips. more pips are possible, but I think on the smaller time frames you can get bitten rather quickly.

I prefer confirming the converging lines on the M5 and M15 (and sometimes the M30 if it's going to be a strong trend)

to answer your question: I'm thinking that if it's possible I might want to have MT4 give an sound/email alert when the 100 line crosses down into the 10% line and up into the 90% line. This would give an early warning that a trade set up may be ready to appear.

I put the vertical yellow chart lines there to help me visualize where the lines converge and cross the 90/10.
  • #338
  • Nov 21, 2008 8:49pm Nov 21, 2008 8:49pm
Kudz,

The numbers on the OsMA are 12,26,9. My internet was down for a few days. Big E
  • #339
  • Nov 22, 2008 5:34am Nov 22, 2008 5:34am
Hi, especially to Big E and Kudzu!

I have been looking at FX for about a year now but just reading and saying nowt. Everything I read (and my instincts) led me towards stochs as opposed to MAs or anything else.

I started reading Sexy Stochs where folk like ElChoco and BoxingIsLife seemed to be making loads of pips. But to be honest, even when they posted charts with "setups" I couldn't see them! Even when they explained them I couldn't see the setups!!!! :-((

Then I read Spud's threads on Stochastic Thread Theory, Rope Theory (2) and laterly Predicitve MTF Stochs. Spud is clearly a genius and is doing well. But again, just too many rules and exceptions-to-rules for a small town girl like me!

Then I found this thread. I was able to get Kudzu's 5 fib-stochs on a chart and also Big E's 2-stoch method on a chart within half a minute. And, yes, I scrolled back through the history, and YES.

YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!

There were not only loads of opportunities BUT I COULD SEE THEM FOR MYSELF!

So thanks a million guys for the sound advice. I am excited by this and looking forward to testing these two systems over the next months.

TudorGirl
  • #340
  • Nov 22, 2008 8:37am Nov 22, 2008 8:37am
Could you be kind enough to tell were I can download the 2 Stoc you have mentioned in your post? Thank you in Advance


Quoting TudorGirl
Hi, especially to Big E and Kudzu!

I have been looking at FX for about a year now but just reading and saying nowt. Everything I read (and my instincts) led me towards stochs as opposed to MAs or anything else.

I started reading Sexy Stochs where folk like ElChoco and BoxingIsLife seemed to be making loads of pips. But to be honest, even when they posted charts with "setups" I couldn't see them! Even when they explained them I couldn't see the setups!!!! :-((

Then I read Spud's threads on Stochastic Thread Theory, Rope Theory (2) and...
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