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  • #21
  • Oct 4, 2008 6:01am Oct 4, 2008 6:01am
Quoting goldrushrush
I wonder why they need "money with a specific number"?

How did they count it out?

Just curious...
  • #22
  • Oct 20, 2008 2:57pm Oct 20, 2008 2:57pm

Crisis Can Over


According to my thought now its time to Change lending through all banks now need to change this financial syastem like banks only will get only deposite and provide securty to maoney of people and charge them per month fee. and Govt not allowed lending thats banks that will act only like Depositer and Lending System will allowed those people who will lend its own money not Allowed Lender Banks to open Public accounts in this bank and Public accounts only Depositer allowed and Depositer will charge them fee
i think i will solve problem of financial market I think according to this way banks must need to raise capital and offer more banifit for Depositer and creat more jobs spacially in Marketing and Customer Dealing .and Depositer only need Guntee . Allow they can opend account in all over the world where they can find and make Global Financial System and all counteries will be incloud in this system and make compitation in banking sector. And Lender is diffrent system but Govt. will not provide any Gruntee for Lender and for money Bowerer its Mutual Understanding and own Risk bases. I think that system will push Economies with real Strenth will creat more jobs and i think economies through this system maight be facing small shocks or shockless Economies .
And bank will charge like this Exaple
Deposite Charge %
$1000 0.01% or less or greater as you think batter




Faiz Rasool
Email Address : [email protected]
  • #23
  • Oct 20, 2008 3:17pm Oct 20, 2008 3:17pm
Quoting dollar_euro

Crisis Can Over


According to my thought now its time to Change lending through all banks now need to change this financial syastem like banks only will get only deposite and provide securty to maoney of people and charge them per month fee. and Govt not allowed lending thats banks that will act only like Depositer and Lending System will allowed those people who will lend its own money not Allowed Lender Banks to open Public accounts in this bank and Public accounts only Depositer allowed and Depositer will charge them fee
i think i will solve problem of financial market I think according to this way banks must need to raise capital and offer more banifit for Depositer and creat more jobs spacially in Marketing and Customer Dealing .and Depositer only need Guntee . Allow they can opend account in all over the world where they can find and make Global Financial System and all counteries will be incloud in this system and make compitation in banking sector. And Lender is diffrent system but Govt. will not provide any Gruntee for Lender and for money Bowerer its Mutual Understanding and own Risk bases. I think that system will push Economies with real Strenth will creat more jobs and i think economies through this system maight be facing small shocks or shockless Economies .
And bank will charge like this Exaple
Deposite Charge %
$1000 0.01% or less or greater as you think batter



Faiz Rasool
Email Address : [email protected]

what the hell was this?
  • #24
  • Oct 21, 2008 4:09am Oct 21, 2008 4:09am
IMO -it is clear that the U.S. and global financial markets are experiencing their worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. we're not there yet. And maybe we'll never get there.But we could get there.
  • #25
  • Nov 3, 2008 3:36pm Nov 3, 2008 3:36pm
Time will tell, but so far there are aspects of this Global crisis and the mistakes in handling it by bailouts, that make this recession have more downside potential then 1930s. Below is one that is telling, because it compares the first year of each collapse, and that is all we can measure so far. 10 years from now we will be able to look back and judge it better, but we are in the here and now - having to work with what we can see.

Oct 15 2007-2008 sets new all time bear record, worse than the Great Depression. To be expected considering we are in a larger Grand Super Cycle degree than the smaller 1930s formation.

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  • #26
  • Nov 8, 2008 2:49pm Nov 8, 2008 2:49pm
Quoting bunton
The 700B rescue effort will be the death of the USD
Not according to my charts.
  • #27
  • Nov 9, 2008 10:16am Nov 9, 2008 10:16am
Quoting SunTrader
Not according to my charts.
hey just need more time... as the fundamentals have not changed...and great forces of manipulation is overflowing
Check Mate GAME OVER
  • #28
  • Nov 9, 2008 10:33am Nov 9, 2008 10:33am
Quoting bunton
hey just need more time... as the fundamentals have not changed...and great forces of manipulation is overflowing
Manipulation like bubbles unraveling, i.e. commodities and EU/GU/AU/NU overvaluation.

But bubbles aren't manipulation. No, can't be. Never.

It makes everything so much easier to explain away to call things manipulation - just because it doesn't go the way they think things should.

Up/down, up/down - trade it. Criticism is the job of the talking heads
  • #29
  • Nov 10, 2008 11:50am Nov 10, 2008 11:50am
Quoting SunTrader
Manipulation like bubbles unraveling, i.e. commodities and EU/GU/AU/NU overvaluation.

But bubbles aren't manipulation. No, can't be. Never.

It makes everything so much easier to explain away to call things manipulation - just because it doesn't go the way they think things should.

Up/down, up/down - trade it. Criticism is the job of the talking heads
Nothing will CHANGE until the people get sick of the shi1 and take to the streets in VIOLENCE...This County is on a fast track to hell in a hand basket, But the talking heads will not admit this. Yes as for trading you trade what you see but the fundamentals of the US is something you will not be able to ignore and its impact will change the quality of your life... Just watch and see.
Check Mate GAME OVER
  • #30
  • Nov 10, 2008 5:43pm Nov 10, 2008 5:43pm
I agree, there will be a change for all of us in the US...

Circuit City..bankruptcy
DHL..pulling out of US deliveries
McDonalds..raising prices on the 'dollar' menu
Automakers..all of them hurting in a big way
Mortgage companies..no need to mention that
Starbucks..earnings down 97%

The falling price of gas means nothing. We're going to be feeling this for a longs time. Look for some really sorry numbers for the employment reports in the next few months, excuse me...even sorrier.
  • #31
  • Nov 10, 2008 6:29pm Nov 10, 2008 6:29pm
Not saying we need to be negative, we do need to be realistic. The world is suffering the worst crisis ever seen to my opinion, and it keeps going, the markets might recover a couple of points today and a few more the next week, but the reality is that economy is so hurt and has been so bled that we cannot imagine it will be fixed over-night. World’s Governments are making a huge effort to alleviate their finances no question, but it is not enough. Combined forces is what it takes to resolve a crisis that is global.
  • #32
  • Nov 10, 2008 8:57pm Nov 10, 2008 8:57pm
I agree completely but please let's leave the consternation to the pundits.

I am here to trade.
  • #33
  • Nov 11, 2008 6:32pm Nov 11, 2008 6:32pm
I said I didn't want to be negative nor did I want to cause consternation, hehe. And of course I'm here to trade too my friend.
  • #34
  • Nov 11, 2008 6:51pm Nov 11, 2008 6:51pm
Hi room, I have been reading your posts here and I think Peterhubble has his point, I am also overwhelmed with all the news, numbers and financial indicators I read every day. We are currently going through a world crisis and it’s something we all traders have to be concerned about, because it’s our money the one is in risk, so unless you don’t care about losing your money when the crisis finds its bottom despite your doing wise moves you better be CONSTERNATED about the current world scenario. I understand it is also called fundamental analysis, so we better keep an eye on that.
  • #35
  • Nov 11, 2008 7:58pm Nov 11, 2008 7:58pm
I disagree with Suntrader. Though...everybody is here to trade, and Forexfactory is probably one of the few serious and comitted forums nowadays. I have to say that it is necessary to talk about this kind of subjects, cause it is the only way for traders to develop their own strategies. If we leave behind the worlwide financial crisis topic, we wont be able to understand wich way to go or to be more specific...when, and what to trade.
At least for me, the crisis is an obstacle to open long term orders. The Market is has no stability, and as peterhubble said the market could recover a little bit and slowly, but as a personal statement, this is going to last for a while.
  • #36
  • Nov 11, 2008 8:45pm Nov 11, 2008 8:45pm
Quoting Jetson
I disagree with Suntrader. Though...everybody is here to trade, and Forexfactory is probably one of the few serious and comitted forums nowadays. I have to say that it is necessary to talk about this kind of subjects, cause it is the only way for traders to develop their own strategies. If we leave behind the worlwide financial crisis topic, we wont be able to understand wich way to go or to be more specific...when, and what to trade.
At least for me, the crisis is an obstacle to open long term orders. The Market is has no stability, and as peterhubble...
........to open long term orders ...... is called investing, not trading - which during these times I wouldn't even consider with someone else's money, never mind my own. I've always thought that investing is for those who don't have the time or knowledge to trade.

As far as the news of the day and how it effect currencies, it is already reflected in the charts or will be shortly. I just think we all get more than enough from the media about how bad things are or will be in the future. How does more and more "news" help? Most of which, AIG for example, we won't know the true extent for years to come, if even then.
If it is just to gripe, have at it. But count me out.
  • #37
  • Nov 12, 2008 6:04pm Nov 12, 2008 6:04pm
Quoting SunTrader
........to open long term orders ...... is called investing, not trading - which during these times I wouldn't even consider with someone else's money, never mind my own. I've always thought that investing is for those who don't have the time or knowledge to trade.

As far as the news of the day and how it effect currencies, it is already reflected in the charts or will be shortly. I just think we all get more than enough from the media about how bad things are or will be in the future. How does more and more "news" help? Most of which, AIG for example, we won't know the true extent for years to come, if even then.
If it is just to gripe, have at it. But count me out.
hehe! certainly it is important to watch out what is going on around the government policies and the media (serious media!), but to me it is, because traders or investors as you say need to know about market trends and its confidence.........it really depends on wich technique you are trading with. Long term, short term..... it is necessary to conbine both. Fundamental and technical analysis!!!!!!

-trade, but trade well-
  • #38
  • Nov 12, 2008 7:40pm Nov 12, 2008 7:40pm
I couldn’t have said it better. It’s all about trading styles and techniques of achieving what you want. Try everything to know on what you feel comfortable the most, you can finally discover you are better trader with technical or some other analysis; however news will always give us an insight about upcoming trends.
  • #39
  • Nov 12, 2008 9:20pm Nov 12, 2008 9:20pm
pip's wife!! you sound really confident girl. Wich is your tactic lately? Are you on long term investments? or just short term trader? i'm a short term practicing trader hehe! wich indicators are you using so far? i use MACD and the williams %. the dynamic of the last one i mentioned seems to fit my guessing about future market turns. feel free to quote or reply!
  • #40
  • Nov 13, 2008 1:19pm Nov 13, 2008 1:19pm
I am currently focused on short term trades. I am not using any kind of indicators because I seriously took a wisely advice from a friend of mine, he says that is pointless on using any indicators on the current economic situation, is so volatile that indicators are not quite reliable right now. So my strategy is scalping and using fundamental analysis.
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