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  • #1
  • First Post: Mar 1, 2007 4:20am Mar 1, 2007 4:20am
I am having a difficult time getting any Moving Average expert advisor to work and/or backtest on my MT4 platform (I use North Finance). I tried ones from xeatrade.com web-site, such as 2EMA Cross, and when I compile it, I get tons of error messages. Would someone post some MA EA's that are already compiled where you can adjust MA settings?
  • #2
  • Mar 1, 2007 5:22am Mar 1, 2007 5:22am
Are you looking for a crossover signal from an indicator, or an actual EA that will place trades?

Define what you'd like, and I'll see what I can come up with.
  • #3
  • Mar 1, 2007 10:34am Mar 1, 2007 10:34am
BlueRuby: I'm looking for an expert advisor for MT4 that will place trades when crossover occurs (not touching), preferably a 3 line ema cross, but
2 is ok. If not a problem, would like included a take profit, and if take profit
hits, immediately re-enter trade in same direction. Also, would like a
field to enter a stop. Thanks!
  • #4
  • Mar 1, 2007 4:31pm Mar 1, 2007 4:31pm
Heres a pretty cool site. They will help you build your own MA EA's

http://sufx.core.t3-ism.net/ExpertAdvisorBuilder/
  • #5
  • Mar 2, 2007 1:35am Mar 2, 2007 1:35am
Quoting martypatty
Heres a pretty cool site. They will help you build your own MA EA's

http://sufx.core.t3-ism.net/ExpertAdvisorBuilder/

Wow, that's amazing. Give that a try, Eagle, and if needed, I'll help you debug the code it comes up with. I expect it will need some tuning, but that should give you a great start.
  • #6
  • Mar 2, 2007 10:01am Mar 2, 2007 10:01am
Quoting eagle4x
BlueRuby: I'm looking for an expert advisor for MT4 that will place trades when crossover occurs (not touching), preferably a 3 line ema cross, but
2 is ok. If not a problem, would like included a take profit, and if take profit
hits, immediately re-enter trade in same direction. Also, would like a
field to enter a stop. Thanks!
This won't work, every MA system gets hammered when the market does not trend. If it was as simple as this everybody would be rich. I read a 'expert' on this site proclaim MA systems as 'the most reliable', don't believe a word.
The breaking of a wave cannot explain the whole sea.
  • #7
  • Mar 2, 2007 6:03pm Mar 2, 2007 6:03pm
See attached chart, and re-think your statement. MA's may be more choppy for some pairs than others, but you can tweak the settings and can come up with some damn good charts. MA's work great for spot gold because stronger trends
and not as much sideways movement.


Quoting Craig
This won't work, every MA system gets hammered when the market does not trend. If it was as simple as this everybody would be rich. I read a 'expert' on this site proclaim MA systems as 'the most reliable', don't believe a word.
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  • #8
  • Mar 2, 2007 7:56pm Mar 2, 2007 7:56pm
MA's have probably been the most coded indicators around. The reason you can't find many is that everyone has tweaked them as much as they can and it's almost impossible to get a MA system to work. Yes, the chart looks good after the lines have formed but one of the biggest problems is that the MA on the current bar keeps moving around until that bar closes. In other words, the MA's DON"T look like they do right now on your chart while they're forming. It's kind of like a Basketball player moving down court. If you just look at his average movement plotted on the floor after he's scored, his path looks very predictable. Unfortunately it doesn't show the little head fakes he made to get there that caused the defensive player to miss him. That being said, I'm sure someone somewhere has probably made an EA work somehow, maybe on longer time frame charts) but they're probably keeping it to themselves. They're tough to make profitable long-term.

I don't have any good ones but search google and I'm sure you'll find some.

Quoting eagle4x
See attached chart, and re-think your statement. MA's may be more choppy for some pairs than others, but you can tweak the settings and can come up with some damn good charts. MA's work great for spot gold because stronger trends
and not as much sideways movement.
  • #9
  • Mar 2, 2007 10:53pm Mar 2, 2007 10:53pm
I found a source with some quality EA's! Guess what - go find it yourself with google!


Quoting kmrunner
MA's have probably been the most coded indicators around. The reason you can't find many is that everyone has tweaked them as much as they can and it's almost impossible to get a MA system to work. Yes, the chart looks good after the lines have formed but one of the biggest problems is that the MA on the current bar keeps moving around until that bar closes. In other words, the MA's DON"T look like they do right now on your chart while they're forming. It's kind of like a Basketball player moving down court. If you just look at his average movement plotted on the floor after he's scored, his path looks very predictable. Unfortunately it doesn't show the little head fakes he made to get there that caused the defensive player to miss him. That being said, I'm sure someone somewhere has probably made an EA work somehow, maybe on longer time frame charts) but they're probably keeping it to themselves. They're tough to make profitable long-term.

I don't have any good ones but search google and I'm sure you'll find some.
  • #10
  • Mar 3, 2007 12:52pm Mar 3, 2007 12:52pm
OK, here's the instructions.

It will act on the currency, and in the timeframe of, the chart you attach it to. So if it's running and you switch between timeframes on that chart, it might open and close orders. Disable it temporarily or use a different chart to do analysis on.

It will open a buy when 40 EMA crosses 200 EMA to upside by more than (hysteresis) pips, 200 s/l, 200 t/p

It will also close a short position and immediately open a buy when the above condition is true.

It will open a sell when 40EMA crosses 200 EMA to downside by more than (hysteresis) pips, 200 s/l, 200 t/p

It will also close a long position and immediately open a sell when the above is true.

Hysteresis keeps it from opening, closing, opening, etc., up to or exceeding 62 trades per price bar when EMA's are close together and price is ranging. However, I'm seeing that the 40 and 200 give pretty clear crosses, so depending on what timeframe chart you use it on, maybe you want to set hysteresis to 0, I don't know.

It will put in a trailing stop if selected true.

S/L, T/P, hysteresis, trail on/off, moving average periods all user inputs.

If trailing stop is set TRUE, it will trail by the amount put in for stoploss.

DO NOT TRADE THIS EA WITH REAL FUNDS! Turn it loose on a demo acct. for awhile and see what happens. It will lose money.

If I programmed it to do the exact opposite, it would still lose money. You just can't trust a freaking robot with your money, that's all. Just watch Futurama and you'll see what I mean about #$%%& robots.

Hmm.. I'm testing as I'm writing, it's making money. Hmmm...

Optimization results from Jan 06 to present yield these settings:

TakeProfit= 370, StopLoss = 85 or 90, TrailingStop = true

or

TakeProfit = 330 StopLoss = 160, TrailingStop = False

Good luck. Write me from your yacht.
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 MA cross trader.mq4   6 KB | 552 downloads
  • #11
  • Mar 3, 2007 7:54pm Mar 3, 2007 7:54pm
Blueruby: Some questions about this EA:
1) I ran strategy tester, but no results, no graph, no nothing - why?
2) I looked at expert properties, but no inputs fields (MA period, stop,
TP, etc.) are listed - why?
3) What is "hysteresis"?
4) Would like for strategy tester to show MA's, on graph when visual mode completed - can you do that?
5) Will you post results of your backtesting on this thread?

This was my 1st attempt at an EA using the link you sent me - thanks for
looking at and fixing it.


Quoting blueruby
OK, here's the instructions.

It will act on the currency, and in the timeframe of, the chart you attach it to. So if it's running and you switch between timeframes on that chart, it might open and close orders. Disable it temporarily or use a different chart to do analysis on.

It will open a buy when 40 EMA crosses 200 EMA to upside by more than (hysteresis) pips, 200 s/l, 200 t/p

It will also close a short position and immediately open a buy when the above condition is true.

It will open a sell when 40EMA crosses 200 EMA to downside by more than (hysteresis) pips, 200 s/l, 200 t/p

It will also close a long position and immediately open a sell when the above is true.

Hysteresis keeps it from opening, closing, opening, etc., up to or exceeding 62 trades per price bar when EMA's are close together and price is ranging. However, I'm seeing that the 40 and 200 give pretty clear crosses, so depending on what timeframe chart you use it on, maybe you want to set hysteresis to 0, I don't know.

It will put in a trailing stop if selected true.

S/L, T/P, hysteresis, trail on/off, moving average periods all user inputs.

If trailing stop is set TRUE, it will trail by the amount put in for stoploss.

DO NOT TRADE THIS EA WITH REAL FUNDS! Turn it loose on a demo acct. for awhile and see what happens. It will lose money.

If I programmed it to do the exact opposite, it would still lose money. You just can't trust a freaking robot with your money, that's all. Just watch Futurama and you'll see what I mean about #$%%& robots.

Hmm.. I'm testing as I'm writing, it's making money. Hmmm...

Optimization results from Jan 06 to present yield these settings:

TakeProfit= 370, StopLoss = 85 or 90, TrailingStop = true

or

TakeProfit = 330 StopLoss = 160, TrailingStop = False

Good luck. Write me from your yacht.
  • #12
  • Mar 4, 2007 2:38am Mar 4, 2007 2:38am
Quoting eagle4x
Blueruby: Some questions about this EA:
1) I ran strategy tester, but no results, no graph, no nothing - why?
2) I looked at expert properties, but no inputs fields (MA period, stop,
TP, etc.) are listed - why?
3) What is "hysteresis"?
4) Would like for strategy tester to show MA's, on graph when visual mode completed - can you do that?
5) Will you post results of your backtesting on this thread?

This was my 1st attempt at an EA using the link you sent me - thanks for
looking at and fixing it.
1) You'll have to play around with it. Sometimes I get nothing, I don't know why. I don't know all the ins and outs of strategy tester. Look at the journal tab, it says it discarded all the results.????

2) I don't know how you didn't see properties. I can open it 3 different ways and always have inputs on the inputs tab. You do have to be looking at the inputs tab.

3)hysteresis is the amount of crossover before action is taken. That way, if price is ticking up and down, and the averages cross up by .0001, you get a sale. They cross back down by .0001, it closes the short order and buys. It will do this over and over. So they have to be crossed over by the number of pips you specify. Try it with zero and see what happens.

4) In strategy tester, you'll have to add the MA's. Add them, save it as a template, then each time you run, just pull up the template for that chart.

5) Sure. The report looks pretty good. No passes that ran successfully lost money. That's rare. However, none of them made much either, although 20 - 30 % per year makes some people happy, and if it actually does this in real time it will probably beat most robots.

Just noticed something. The op report doesn't list the settings for each pass. Lovely. Not sure what good that is. I'll post them in a separate file.

Attached to this post are with TRAILING STOP OFF.

I didn't fix anything, I just modified a program I already had.
Attached File(s)
File Type: doc Op Rpt MA trader 03 04 07 Trail OFF.doc   31 KB | 498 downloads
  • #13
  • Mar 4, 2007 2:51am Mar 4, 2007 2:51am
Quoting eagle4x
Blueruby: Some questions about this EA:
1) I ran strategy tester, but no results, no graph, no nothing - why?
2) I looked at expert properties, but no inputs fields (MA period, stop,
TP, etc.) are listed - why?
3) What is "hysteresis"?
4) Would like for strategy tester to show MA's, on graph when visual mode completed - can you do that?
5) Will you post results of your backtesting on this thread?

This was my 1st attempt at an EA using the link you sent me - thanks for
looking at and fixing it.

5) Attached to this post are results with Trailing stop ON.

I un-selected the option to "skip useless results" and it didn't discard any results as "insignificant". NOTE that one of the trials resulted in $5800 loss of the 10K. This is a very real possible outcome with a robot trader.
Attached File(s)
File Type: doc Op Rpt MA trader 03 04 07 Trail ON.doc   48 KB | 485 downloads
File Type: doc Op Rpt MA Trader Trail ON.doc   192 KB | 462 downloads
  • #14
  • Last Post: Mar 4, 2007 2:55am Mar 4, 2007 2:55am
Goes with earlier post
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File Type: doc Opto Rpt MA trader 03 04 07 TRAIL OFF.doc   76 KB | 466 downloads
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