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  • #401
  • Nov 3, 2008 4:38pm Nov 3, 2008 4:38pm
[quote]morzais that zigzag?
not fixed indictors
Is this question for me, if it is. No I do not use zigzag....I use multi frame stoch..

Glenn
  • #402
  • Nov 3, 2008 4:42pm Nov 3, 2008 4:42pm
[quote=glenn5t;2323736]
Quote
morzais that zigzag?
not fixed indictors
Is this question for me, if it is. No I do not use zigzag....I use multi frame stoch..

Glenn

no my Dear to oanfx
  • #403
  • Nov 3, 2008 4:50pm Nov 3, 2008 4:50pm
[quote=morza;2323743]
Quoting glenn5t

no my Dear to oanfx
i dont know a lot about the lines but it is an indicator that was intrdouced to me by prince7op and i applied the settings according to abosoltuan ideas and it was confirmed by al moharer alsahafy.
the candle average was my idea when the candle becomes bigger you enter against the trend and in the red or green lines so i put it as a timing indicator.
my regards.
oan.
  • #404
  • Nov 3, 2008 5:07pm Nov 3, 2008 5:07pm
is there a shift adjustment for this?
  • #405
  • Edited 6:41pm Nov 3, 2008 5:16pm | Edited 6:41pm
Quoting KudzuFX
is there a shift adjustment for this?
hello i did not undertand you i ust tried in the candle average many setting to end with this .
i have a new template now where i dont use macd and omi i ust use rsi and adx and cci and candle average and others as timing and it is my own indicator .
i trade ust euro dollar and i use elliott in that.
my regard.
oan.
  • #406
  • Edited 7:16pm Nov 3, 2008 6:47pm | Edited 7:16pm
Quoting 63ws
Hi ,
Does anybody agree with me that there is absolutely NO POINT in trading the most highly REPAINTING indicators and earth?
I really don't get this thread.. but hey, maybe its me.. i just don't like repainting indicators.....
I think that trading with this templates is like being blind, butt-naked, in a room with michael jackson and boy george and hoping not to be screwed!
ciao ciao
woooooooow your site is very nice what a way to make an advertisment
yes the indicators does repaint but consider it done just wait for confirmation from other indicatores or fundemental view to enter .
my regards.
oan.
  • #407
  • Nov 3, 2008 7:43pm Nov 3, 2008 7:43pm
[quote=oan4fx;2323757]
Quoting morza

i dont know a lot about the lines but it is an indicator that was intrdouced to me by prince7op and i applied the settings according to abosoltuan ideas and it was confirmed by al moharer alsahafy.
the candle average was my idea when the candle becomes bigger you enter against the trend and in the red or green lines so i put it as a timing indicator.
my regards.
oan.
i lost about 40% from my account by your zigzag
thanks
  • #408
  • Nov 3, 2008 7:57pm Nov 3, 2008 7:57pm
Quoting oan4fx
first of all i want to clear some thing i am ellottion so i use elliote a lot to trade and i have read a lot about dow and ohn morphy and elliot him self we all have to believe in some thing important that price moves in cycles up and down in the same direction it is moving on so i determine the trend from a fundemental view and then elliot view and dow view and i foud the best way to trade vaue in this market is to divide your over all position to small positions that you enter with smae direction in the trading period and put a stop loss which i hitten thats mean that your elliot or fundemental seniro is wrong.
so yes enter a position let ay you have 1000 dollar you can use up to 5 % o your...
This sounds a bit like the martingale concept. Dangerour way to trade if not careful or market in 1 direction.
  • #409
  • Nov 3, 2008 8:20pm Nov 3, 2008 8:20pm
Salam Oan

I have just finished testing your method scalping 1 minute and 5 minute charts on demo. I've lost over 50% of my demo account value because of all the repainting. This is definately not a good scalping system. It is very dangerous for scalping, and I wouldn't advise anyone to use it for scalping on 1 minute and 5 minute.

However you DID say that this system is for 4 hour charts, so I have now started testing on 4 hour charts. I hope that this will work.

I scalp because I enjoy scalping. But I am also hoping to find a method that I can "set and forget" for a couple of hours a day. So I hope that this is the one. But I will never use it for shorter time frames.

I will let you know how this turns out.

Thank you once again for the effort in sharing.
  • #410
  • Nov 3, 2008 8:31pm Nov 3, 2008 8:31pm
Quoting 63ws
We don't need advertisment..
It was only a personal point of view..
just wanted to stress out that its very dangerous to trade like that, specially for new traders who rely on the information they find on this forum..
I think you should be a real trader, showing real results to be allowed to post a strategy...
kind regards
alex
i am a real trader and guess what i made 7640 pips in 4 weeks only just from eur usd and my signals are free i have my own way of income rather than eating people money i give them money this 7640 is certified and i shorted gold from 934 to 680 and it is certified i shorted euro and it is ceritified here look for my replay here in eur usd i shorted it from 1.57 and i will be short in it until 1.14 and it will come believe me
so who is the real good trader here.
i think any one with little search can know the answer.
oan
  • #411
  • Edited 9:17pm Nov 3, 2008 8:33pm | Edited 9:17pm
[quote=morza;2323980]
Quoting oan4fx

i lost about 40% from my account by your zigzag
thanks
i am sorry to hear that but i said to demo it first and use the scale system with templates the righ way .i gained 50 % profit today and really i am sorry part of it is defintialy yours .
i will give you the chance to get it back i will trade again and again so just
follow the rules .
my regards.
oan.
  • #412
  • Nov 3, 2008 8:37pm Nov 3, 2008 8:37pm
Quoting dimitrius
Salam Oan

I have just finished testing your method scalping 1 minute and 5 minute charts on demo. I've lost over 50% of my demo account value because of all the repainting. This is definately not a good scalping system. It is very dangerous for scalping, and I wouldn't advise anyone to use it for scalping on 1 minute and 5 minute.

However you DID say that this system is for 4 hour charts, so I have now started testing on 4 hour charts. I hope that this will work.

I scalp because I enjoy scalping. But I am also hoping to find a method that I can \"set and forget\" for a couple of hours a day. So I hope that this is the one. But I will never use it for shorter time frames.

I will let you...
thanks a lot man .as i told you all and i am still doing first all please demo the system use 4 hour only use the scale system only you will never loss .
please all follow the rules and my live signlas at arabictrader.com
just pass by to see it .
my regards.
  • #413
  • Nov 3, 2008 11:00pm Nov 3, 2008 11:00pm
Quoting oan4fx
... eur usd i shorted it from 1.57 and i will be short in it until 1.14 and it will come believe me

Oan, I'm curious as to why you're short eur/usd and will stay short until 1.14, when your system on the 4 hour currently shows a strong buy. Is there something I'm missing?

Thanks.
  • #414
  • Nov 3, 2008 11:24pm Nov 3, 2008 11:24pm
Quoting 63ws
Hi ,
Does anybody agree with me that there is absolutely NO POINT in trading the most highly REPAINTING indicators and earth?
I really don't get this thread.. but hey, maybe its me.. i just don't like repainting indicators.....
I think that trading with this templates is like being blind, butt-naked, in a room with michael jackson and boy george and hoping not to be screwed!
ciao ciao
I think someone in this forum is offering stuff for free, and someone else is obviously trying to drum up business...

Anybody trying to sell expert advisers, consulting, ect. ect. must not be able to make money in the markets by actually trading.
  • #415
  • Nov 4, 2008 2:21am Nov 4, 2008 2:21am
Quoting dimitrius
Oan, I'm curious as to why you're short eur/usd and will stay short until 1.14, when your system on the 4 hour currently shows a strong buy. Is there something I'm missing?

Thanks.

i said my long view in eur usd and it is some thing proffisional traders understand(just try to short higths thats all )).
  • #416
  • Nov 4, 2008 4:47am Nov 4, 2008 4:47am
Quoting 63ws
Hi ,
Does anybody agree with me that there is absolutely NO POINT in trading the most highly REPAINTING indicators and earth?
I really don't get this thread.. but hey, maybe its me.. i just don't like repainting indicators.....
I think that trading with this templates is like being blind, butt-naked, in a room with michael jackson and boy george and hoping not to be screwed!
ciao ciao
I really do not know why some people delight in ruining good things without first trying it very well. I am currently demotrading this system with GBP/USD and GBP/JPY and so far I've increased my account by 66% - 2000+ dollars profit on a 3000 dollar account. My humble advice: if you do n ot like a system, if you believe it is not working for you, leave it for others and move on.
See attached chart for my proof that it works!
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  • #417
  • Nov 4, 2008 5:29am Nov 4, 2008 5:29am
Quoting adros84
I really do not know why some people delight in ruining good things without first trying it very well. I am currently demotrading this system with GBP/USD and GBP/JPY and so far I've increased my account by 66% - 2000+ dollars profit on a 3000 dollar account. My humble advice: if you do n ot like a system, if you believe it is not working for you, leave it for others and move on.
See attached chart for my proof that it works!

I agree. Try it according to the rules Oan has set out, with your own personal money management plan that you can handle.

Personally, I have tried this on time frames lower than 4 hours with bad results. I don't know why it didn't work scalping, but I won't try it again for scalping.

However, since starting this afternoon on the 4 hour charts on the eurusd, I am up +161 pips as of this minute. I also believe that this method needs to be used with reversal candlestick patterns and fibs for support/resistance. Thank you Oan, once again, for sharing this with us.
  • #418
  • Nov 4, 2008 5:45am Nov 4, 2008 5:45am
hi abo 3oon what is last charts from you ?

the pic i put it

there is a 3 points for buy
and other 3 points for sell

can u upgrade your idea to be like my idea ?

thx
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  • #419
  • Nov 4, 2008 6:12am Nov 4, 2008 6:12am
Hi adros84,


Would you please send some snapshots of your live trades. I don't know how to use the system properly. Some pictures would help.
  • #420
  • Nov 4, 2008 7:02am Nov 4, 2008 7:02am
whats the time depend on >0_o?
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