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  • #1
  • First Post: Oct 2, 2008 12:27am Oct 2, 2008 12:27am
Real traders, real money.
Where are the real traders who trade with real money?

If you are for real, trading with real money, please post your chart and describe what you're doing.

Please do not post demo account trades.

Just one post per trader is all that is necessary. But if you wish to share more that's fine. Let's just find out who puts their money on the line.
  • #2
  • Oct 2, 2008 1:03am Oct 2, 2008 1:03am
Quoting brianduffer
Real traders, real money.
Where are the real traders who trade with real money?

If you are for real, trading with real money, please post your chart and describe what you're doing.

Please do not post demo account trades.

Just one post per trader is all that is necessary. But if you wish to share more that's fine. Let's just find out who puts their money on the line.
Welcome to the Mad House.
It works like this, first you give, then you recieve.
As a veteran of 12 hours FF membership, you probably have'nt had time to read the 682 other similar threads asking the same questions, yet.
Polishing my crystal ball
  • #3
  • Oct 2, 2008 1:21am Oct 2, 2008 1:21am
I have been following this forum for some time. Some would call it lurking. I just joined today but that doesn't indicate how long I have been reading. I see lots of systems and indicators being posted. And those systems seem to keep changing. It just made me wonder if any of these really worked. That's the reason I joined, so I could ask a simple question. As expected, a few "wise guys" couldn't resist posting. But the question still stands. I don't see my question being out of line. I just want to separate the wheat from the chaff.

If my question offends you, you don't have to reply at all. Just carry on as if I am not here. I am not asking for anyone to prove anything. I am just asking to identify yourself as a real trader trading with real money. That is all. If you care to post a chart and show what you're doing, that would be an added bonus.

I am not going to debate with anyone nor will I engage in pointless battles, name calling, my system/indicator is better than your system arguments, etc...

Either you are a real trader trading real money or you're not.

Simple question.

P.S. why was this thread moved?
  • #4
  • Oct 2, 2008 3:26am Oct 2, 2008 3:26am
In my humble opinion. 90+% of all FF users only browse the "Trading Systems" Forum every day hopeing that the Holy Grail come flying towards them and says "Here I am!". 90% of all Users have little to none experience.
90% of the Systems you will find are crap or they miss important parts (when to exit, Moneymanagment, What if...)
But there are some things you can keep in mind and use it to create your own style. Don't think a system consits of 2-3 indiactors that have to say BUY and thats it. This will never work. If you ask me there has to be some discretionary part in your system. My system for example is more like a set of rules that I've found useful. ( Buy the stronges, sell the weakest. Some Price Action for confirmation. Having the bigger picture in mind etc.)
Biggest Problem (especially for the new ones) is that they don't have a clue what is good information so they keep looking for the perfect Indicator combination or the perfect timeframe to apply their new system to.
That's like me saying that I can speak spanish. It will work sometimes (when I want to order a beer) but most of the time not. Same thing with trading if it only works Mondays to Thursday ond EUR/GBP M5 the reason is because they have no clue what they are doing.

I could post my charts here but it would not be of any help to you.
  • #5
  • Oct 2, 2008 6:12am Oct 2, 2008 6:12am
here are the charts i use..got also 5m and 15 m with same indis on..

as you can guess.i scalp a few pips here and there..from 0-20 pips a trade
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StopLoss is for none belivers... Trust the Gurus..
  • #6
  • Oct 2, 2008 8:06am Oct 2, 2008 8:06am
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Either you are a real trader trading real money or you're not.

That's not really the question... laff. Either you're profitable or you're not. Anyone can trade real money, doesn't mean you should emulate them.

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P.S. why was this thread moved?

Because it's hunting for an edge.
  • #7
  • Oct 2, 2008 8:42am Oct 2, 2008 8:42am
Quoting lillelise
here are the charts i use..got also 5m and 15 m with same indis on..

as you can guess.i scalp a few pips here and there..from 0-20 pips a trade
AHHHHHHH MY EYES..... I had to make an appiontment with my eye Dr. after looking at your charts.

You lose 20 pips just wading through your chart to make a decision.
Same Whore .... Different Dress
  • #8
  • Oct 2, 2008 9:49am Oct 2, 2008 9:49am
Quoting johnedoe
AHHHHHHH MY EYES..... I had to make an appiontment with my eye Dr. after looking at your charts.

You lose 20 pips just wading through your chart to make a decision.
I think your supposed to wear 3 D glasses to make everything stand out!!!

On a more serious note, I had a phone call from some mob trying to sell me a great system buying and selling indicies on the Aussie markets. They wanted to sell a daily signal, and it did'nt matter if they were wrong, I was told to just double up the next day. They tried to convince me they have never had a losing streak of more than 6.

How much for this wonderful system I can hear you ask?

Absolute bargain at only $7,700.00 Aussie, Oh and 50 bucks a month for the signal.

You can guess where I told him to shove it!
Polishing my crystal ball
  • #9
  • Oct 2, 2008 1:29pm Oct 2, 2008 1:29pm
could be worse..who gives a shit,as long you make profit..
ill guess i could remove some indies,but i love indis..
for me between 50 an 100 pips a day..is enoughf..
and why fix..something that already works...??
StopLoss is for none belivers... Trust the Gurus..
  • #10
  • Oct 2, 2008 1:48pm Oct 2, 2008 1:48pm
Quoting 30XTCi
I think your supposed to wear 3 D glasses to make everything stand out!!!

On a more serious note, I had a phone call from some mob trying to sell me a great system buying and selling indicies on the Aussie markets. They wanted to sell a daily signal, and it did'nt matter if they were wrong, I was told to just double up the next day. They tried to convince me they have never had a losing streak of more than 6.

How much for this wonderful system I can hear you ask?

Absolute bargain at only $7,700.00 Aussie, Oh and 50 bucks a month for the signal.

You can guess where I told him to shove it!
maybe they use this robot for the signal
http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf5szwz6Qzc
  • #11
  • Oct 2, 2008 2:28pm Oct 2, 2008 2:28pm
Rod30...

how hav u been??

Sonic
  • #12
  • Oct 2, 2008 2:40pm Oct 2, 2008 2:40pm
What amount do you call real money?



Quoting brianduffer
Real traders, real money.
Where are the real traders who trade with real money?

If you are for real, trading with real money, please post your chart and describe what you're doing.

Please do not post demo account trades.

Just one post per trader is all that is necessary. But if you wish to share more that's fine. Let's just find out who puts their money on the line.
  • #13
  • Oct 2, 2008 2:46pm Oct 2, 2008 2:46pm
I made a dollar today, real money... USD... in some countries people get paid less than that per day. So there... ha...

(just gave up a lot of profit, but profit is profit, learn to be happy with little)
Trax Tibidax Tibidox...
  • #14
  • Oct 2, 2008 2:49pm Oct 2, 2008 2:49pm
Now just keep compounding that dollar.....
Same Whore .... Different Dress
  • #15
  • Oct 2, 2008 2:52pm Oct 2, 2008 2:52pm
Sure thing, thanks.
Trax Tibidax Tibidox...
  • #16
  • Edited 4:17pm Oct 2, 2008 3:38pm | Edited 4:17pm
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Real traders, real money.
Where are the real traders who trade with real money?

If you are for real, trading with real money, please post your chart and describe what you're doing.
I found a penny on the ground next to my car. It was bent in half and somewhat flattened. I traded it for 2 shinny quarters to my wife, because she thought it looked cool. ON to my next big trade

This is an absoultely true story. See the chart below.

While it is a true stry, I am of course just kidding.

I have been trading for about 20 years, FX for about 6 and Price and volume are generally the key to successful trades. In FX there is only tick volume, however even tick volume can tell you when there is accumulation or distribution. Do not trust MT4 volume. It only represents their retail traders, who generally are wrong. Look for volume from large banks. If you want to know more, check into the writings of Wyckoff and Tim Ord and Tom Williams this will get you some valuable info on market structure and flow. Understanding what is behind a move is the key.
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  • #17
  • Oct 2, 2008 3:40pm Oct 2, 2008 3:40pm
Quoting brianduffer
Real traders, real money.
Where are the real traders who trade with real money?

If you are for real, trading with real money, please post your chart and describe what you're doing.

Please do not post demo account trades.

Just one post per trader is all that is necessary. But if you wish to share more that's fine. Let's just find out who puts their money on the line.
as we said in every thread like this
everyone has his own mind, and the method working for me cant necessary work for you
for example, I tried many TA tools with Stocks and Spot currencies and some of them working for me very well and some didn't, and this don't mean the tools that didn't work for me are bad but it's my mind and I saw others working with them successfully

some traders prefer the complex techniques and others prefer simplicity
so if I post and say here what I do,this don't help you, you must help yourself and found what works for you

and it's not a secret but the great number of information, books, essays, posts, ... etc in the trading topic make any new man confused also the new learner ego helps also in this

but I will tell you too, most of my trades are swing trades except some LT in stocks,
I work in daily with breakout in the way of the trend, and 4 bars to filter the congestion to get out, and trailing to protect the profits, Simple?
and it works for me until now (10 yrs in Global Stocks, 2 yrs Forex)

today for example, until now I've 4 open trades: 2 shorts in NU, One long in EA, one short in ACHF
and here are their charts

believe me I post this and I'm sure this wont satisfy you, and you'll keep going surfing the net and forums, systems and lose your real money and no one can help you to learn, until the day you realize your real teacher, the market, then you'll found your method then you'll trade well

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  • #18
  • Oct 2, 2008 3:44pm Oct 2, 2008 3:44pm
I'm flat. Tomorrow is a big day with lots of possible volatility so I'm going rock climbing instead.

Trade to live, not live to trade.

Quoting 30XTCi
As a veteran of 12 hours FF membership, you probably have'nt had time to read the 682 other similar threads asking the same questions, yet.
It's just a variation of the old "Is it really possible to make millions on the stockmarket?"
The market reveals who we really are...
  • #19
  • Oct 2, 2008 4:09pm Oct 2, 2008 4:09pm
Quoting benssol
as we said in every thread like this
everyone has his own mind, and the method working for me cant necessary work for you
for example, I tried many TA tools with Stocks and Spot currencies and some of them working for me very well and some didn't, and this don't mean the tools that didn't work for me are bad but it's my mind and I saw others working with them successfully

some traders prefer the complex techniques and others prefer simplicity
so if I post and say here what I do,this don't help you, you must help yourself and found what works for you

and it's not a secret but the great number of information, books, essays, posts, ... etc in the trading topic make any new man confused also the new learner ego helps also in this

but I will tell you too, most of my trades are swing trades except some LT in stocks,
I work in daily with breakout in the way of the trend, and 4 bars to filter the congestion to get out, and trailing to protect the profits, Simple?
and it works for me until now (10 yrs in Global Stocks, 2 yrs Forex)

today for example, until now I've 4 open trades: 2 shorts in NU, One long in EA, one short in ACHF
and here are their charts

believe me I post this and I'm sure this wont satisfy you, and you'll keep going surfing the net and forums, systems and lose your real money and no one can help you to learn, until the day you realize your real teacher, the market, then you'll found your method then you'll trade well

great post and best charts...no idicator means only one thing....study price action..
  • #20
  • Oct 2, 2008 4:42pm Oct 2, 2008 4:42pm
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This was a real money scalp trade.

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