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  • #41
  • Apr 14, 2008 8:00am Apr 14, 2008 8:00am
Quoting Philfx
A few weeks in and Crossover is still working well. Had a glitch this weekend but I found out it was due to the Stop level being set to zero when using the MarketInfo function at a particular dealer's server I was using - I kept getting Error 130 on the OrderModify function as a result - took a while to find the reason and it was annoying to say the least!

Anyway that a few questions on the Codeweaver setup. To run a backtest tick by tick from 1999 to now it is taking around 25 minutes. I have a 2 month old 2.1ghz Macbook with standard 1 gig of RAM. Its a fairly simple EA although obviously not as simple as the supplied ones (the MACD one that comes with MT4 takes 2 minutes to run).

1) Does 25 minutes sound reasonable to you?
2) Also the fan is on constantly while running the test. Is that normal too?
3) If I were looking to improve the run time which would be a better option - would increasing RAM help? I know generally the answer is yes but I don't know specifically how MT4 works with RAM.
4) Given extra RAM Would a VM or Parallells installation run quicker than Codeweavers?

Thanks in advance.
1) Try pinging some other threads on the overall performance/time issue. I have no idea as I've never backtested with this much data on a Mac or PC.
2) The fan running sounds correct. It will do this when engaged in lots of processing.
3) Don't know if bumping the RAM will help. Seems like this process is really processor related.
4) VM and Parallels are known to not be as fast as the "real" thing. CrossOver is far closer to the real thing as it's using actual Windows DLLs. I seriously doubt those options would yield better performance.

If you discover answers to some of these issues, please ping back. Thanks.
  • #42
  • Apr 14, 2008 9:47am Apr 14, 2008 9:47am
Will do Bill and thanks. I tend to agree about the RAM issue. If it can run the MACD sample EA quickly then I don't think RAM is an issue there.

My EA adds extra processing for sure but does not use any extra price data. Therefore it seems reasonable that the RAM won't improve things unless MT4 is doing something unusual in its memory management. Being that it doesn't need to hold a lot of data in memory once it has finished with it i.e. when backtesting 2003 it does not need to hold data for 1999 in memory then I'd be surprised if RAM would help things - that doesn't mean it won't of course.

Anyway I'll post if I find out any more on these issues.
  • #43
  • Apr 24, 2008 4:58pm Apr 24, 2008 4:58pm
Here's another issue I just discovered:
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DateTime constants edited in user param settings always add 7 hours to whatever time is entered. I think the 7 comes from the fact that I'm in the US Pacific Time zone which is currently GMT-7.

So, for whatever reason, when datetime constants are edited within user inputs, and amount is added in an apparent attempt to bridge the gap with GMT.
  • #44
  • Jul 4, 2008 10:05am Jul 4, 2008 10:05am
I bought an Imac intel - with VMware's Fusion to create virtual Windows XP on my mac - the documentation is pretty useless, and I can't figure out what to do to allow more than 1 program running or to download to the virtual desktop anybody know how to do it? Want to get my charts up and running and find out if I can have my platform and charts running through fusion.

Hope somebody has some pointers...

Lisa
  • #45
  • Jul 4, 2008 10:36am Jul 4, 2008 10:36am
I've just been reading through this thread and it sounds like Crossover is a real PITA. I've been using Metatrader on my MacBook Pro through Parallels for well over a year now and other than the extremely irritating F12 function key not working, it works perfectly. Just make sure you have plenty of RAM.
  • #46
  • Jul 5, 2008 12:51am Jul 5, 2008 12:51am
Im also running XP on my MacPro and MacBookPro, I was using Parallel for more then a year and now switched to VMWare Fusion about a Month ago and I have to say that Fusion is much better the Parallels, I have no crashes (Ninja Trader would make Parallel crash when scrolling chart fast) and it just is a much smoother App in general ...
  • #47
  • Aug 6, 2008 12:44pm Aug 6, 2008 12:44pm
I just switched from a PC to an iMac running intel dual 2 cores with OS X 5 Leopars. I really like the Mac, but I'm very dependent upon running MT4 forex trading, which I haven't yet gotten working on my Mac (so I have to use my PC for this unfortunately). I downloaded Crossover, but couldn't get it to work, but I think with Billworld's method, it will probably work. But because I teach Forex Trading in our local senior center, I need to be able to display on my projector many different MQ4 brokers jumping from one to the other as questions arise from students. And I also think the Mac-Crossover approach is not as straight forward as the PC directory systems with many different brokers under the PC Program Files, etc., easily selectable with icons. I have tried to not install a dual boot system on my Mac since it won't let me use a secondary hard drive as the source, and don't want to take space away from my internal HD. But I'm willing to install VMWare Fusion if it runs fast enough, and gives me a true PC environment for PC programs all stored on a secondary HD. Is this true? Charles Wilkes, [email protected]
  • #48
  • Aug 6, 2008 2:05pm Aug 6, 2008 2:05pm
Charles

I use VMWare fusion and have no problems running Metatrader.

cheers

FXP


Quoting cfw123
I just switched from a PC to an iMac running intel dual 2 cores with OS X 5 Leopars. I really like the Mac, but I'm very dependent upon running MT4 forex trading, which I haven't yet gotten working on my Mac (so I have to use my PC for this unfortunately). I downloaded Crossover, but couldn't get it to work, but I think with Billworld's method, it will probably work. But because I teach Forex Trading in our local senior center, I need to be able to display on my projector many different MQ4 brokers jumping from one to the other as questions arise from students. And I also think the Mac-Crossover approach is not as straight forward as the PC directory systems with many different brokers under the PC Program Files, etc., easily selectable with icons. I have tried to not install a dual boot system on my Mac since it won't let me use a secondary hard drive as the source, and don't want to take space away from my internal HD. But I'm willing to install VMWare Fusion if it runs fast enough, and gives me a true PC environment for PC programs all stored on a secondary HD. Is this true? Charles Wilkes, [email protected]
  • #49
  • Aug 7, 2008 8:34am Aug 7, 2008 8:34am
Great. Came to the same conclusion myself based on other responses made direct as well.

I have ordered the free version of VMware Fusion, downloaded it and activated it already but no time to get it to work with MetaTrader so far. Assuming I can get it to work, I will buy it immediately. But the Beta 2 version appears not to be ready to test yet based on comments I read, so will wait on that although usually I charge ahead with beta versions as normally by the time they become public betas, they are really ready -- but apparently not in this case.

I don't have time to read much from the monitor, so usually print manuals I need to study on paper or send them to my Kindle so I can read them as I get time away from my system. But I haven't found which manual to do this with yet -- in fact the manual situation seems very confusing. Do you have a suggestion with a link so I can do this quickly, as I need to get up to speed with this product. Charles Wilkes [email protected]
  • #50
  • Sep 13, 2008 2:38am Sep 13, 2008 2:38am
I've used both Parallels and VMWare Fusion with MT4 and I can say that in my experience, VMWare Fusion is drastically faster than Parallels with all settings being the same. Also, VMWare is rather cheap considering their rebate right now. You can also run in Unity mode (Parallels does the same thing) where it's just the window you see and you can minimize it, etc... Looks and acts just like any other program in OSX. Vastly better than Crossover office for the same price.
  • #51
  • Sep 14, 2008 7:33am Sep 14, 2008 7:33am
I have now been using MT4 on my 24" iMac using VMware Fusion, and it works wonderfully. It seems to run faster than on my almost-new Toshiba laptop, which has the same processor and bus speed. But mainly it is hugely impressive to see a currency chart on the large 24" screen. So clear, and I can display many charts at the same time without having to enlarge any chart full screen to see it properly.

One thing I haven't figured out yet (my problem I think) is how to access the data files while in Mac mode without bringing up VMware. I literally do everything else I do on a computer entirely in Mac mode, as I like it much better than doing anything in PC mode. Therefore I would like to be able to download things and save it for example to my PC Files necessary to run PC programs in PC mode, but even using the spotlight in Mac Mode, I can't see these files.

Does anyone know how to access pure PC files created in VMware without bringing up PC mode?

Charles Wilkes, San Jose, Calif.
  • #52
  • Sep 14, 2008 6:13pm Sep 14, 2008 6:13pm
I know Parallels Explorer lets you do this, but it is of course it's not free, you have to buy Parallels to get it.
  • #53
  • Sep 20, 2008 9:18pm Sep 20, 2008 9:18pm
I spoke too soon! VMWare's new version (2.0) which is a free upgrade has a program that lets you mount the VMWare hard drive in OS X to do as you wish!
  • #54
  • Sep 22, 2008 4:48am Sep 22, 2008 4:48am
I can't figure out how to have more than 1 thing open on my Windows/fusion desktop? I.E. platform and charts at same time.

Can anyone direct me or tell me where there is a tutorial or something to learn how to use the program???

Love to trade on my Mac - but can't seem to get it together.
  • #55
  • Sep 22, 2008 10:33am Sep 22, 2008 10:33am
Do you mean in MT4? You just click on 'window' 'new window'. If this is not what you are asking, please be a bit more specific and I will help you out.
  • #56
  • Oct 12, 2008 10:51am Oct 12, 2008 10:51am
Just a quick update for those who, a few months ago, were discussing a bug in MT4 with Crossover. This is where you can only test all data in your history file as restricting the date causes an MT4 error.

Anyway the following code can be added to your program so that it only runs between two dates. First you have this simple function

bool DateTimeBetween (datetime iFromDateTime, datetime iToDateTime)
{ if ((TimeCurrent() >= iFromDateTime)
&& (TimeCurrent() <= iToDateTime))
{return (true);
}
else {return (false);
}
}

Then in your main program you just need to put this if statement around your main code:

if (DateTimeBetween (D'1999.01.05 10:00:00', D'2000.01.05 10:00:00')) {....main program goes here
}

Of course its also useful for debugging or testing purposes. I'm sure many have done something like this but for those who haven't I hope it helps.
  • #57
  • Oct 13, 2008 11:08pm Oct 13, 2008 11:08pm
I just stumbled across this thread while I was looking for something else entirely!
All i can say is YIPPEE!!
Now I can do all my regular everyday mac stuff and check the pips!
Thanks to Bill, way back in the first page for the easy to follow instructions to get CrossOver to work and MT4 to install. I am very very grateful!
I had discovered parallels about 3 days ago and now i know I don't need it.
So far I have not come across any issues with running MT4 through crossover.

Thanks again.
  • #58
  • Oct 14, 2008 12:59am Oct 14, 2008 12:59am
Crossover Office works great for a lot of apps. I use VMWare because I need XP for some of my games as well
  • #59
  • Oct 14, 2008 9:14am Oct 14, 2008 9:14am
Hi!

I successfully installed mt4 on mac using crossover and your instructions. I'm unable hovewer to change any indicators parameters - such as change 14 day default MA to say, 200 day.

when i drag the indicator to the chart it would not allow me to enter my own parameters, and "stop sign" cursor flickers..

Do you have that issue?

Alex
  • #60
  • Oct 17, 2008 3:20pm Oct 17, 2008 3:20pm
Hey everyone,
Thanks for the heads up on MT4 on mac.
The instructions to get MT4 working using cross over all worked fine. I found this thread about literally 1 day after discovering parallels.
I like not having to load a VM just to run a single app, as there is a significant (noticeable) performance drop when using parallels vs crossover. However, I have stumbled across a minor and somewhat annoying problem with the crossover install of MT4.
I like to keep records (backups of backups) of the trades I have made in the last day/week/month etc.
I have tried to save my account history using the r-click menu.
Saving as a report works fine, but trying to 'Save as Detailed Report' comes up with an error "A required resource was unavailable"
Does anyone know what/why this may be the case?

I will contact Codeweavers also.
Thanks
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