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  • #61
  • Feb 12, 2007 9:06am Feb 12, 2007 9:06am
Quoting fukinagashi
I am now going for one week snowboarding close to "Porte de soleil" in the Haute Savoir in France. Thus you will not here of me for AT LEAST that time.

So I better publish the actual productive version (1.3). MUCH closer to the rules.

There is a 1.4 in testing and it so imitates TA that it is scary, but it is not ready for publishing yet.

Big KUDOS to TeamAlphid for this great system!!!



can you please give MAGIC for Orders ?
i will make orders analyse


i have more EA run

thanks
  • #62
  • Feb 12, 2007 4:43pm Feb 12, 2007 4:43pm
Quoting FinGeR
can you please give MAGIC for Orders ?
i will make orders analyse


i have more EA run

thanks
I can see Magic id for v1.3 = 666666, while for v1.2 = 666, just move your cursor to open trade window, and tooltip will appear saying the magic id and order description.
  • #63
  • Feb 12, 2007 5:04pm Feb 12, 2007 5:04pm
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I have one more example about swing point, I can see you use fractal to determine the swing high.

Black arrow = EA swing point
Red arrow = Manual swing point
  • #64
  • Feb 13, 2007 12:29am Feb 13, 2007 12:29am
Trialling V1.3 I see that pending orders at 61.8 & 38.2 fibs are cancelled when price passes 61.8% ... Shouldn't that be 161.8%? Else we're missing the 2 & 3 trades!

Or have I gotten it wrong?
  • #65
  • Feb 13, 2007 6:17am Feb 13, 2007 6:17am
Did anyone using version 1.3 get a trade on the EUR/USD at 1.2983 (2:00 EST 2/13/07? My EA didn't trade here when price crossed the Bat line. The GBP/USD should have traded at about the same time and didn't. The USD/CHF should have traded an hour earlier and didn't. Anyone else with same results? Thanks.
  • #66
  • Feb 13, 2007 7:02am Feb 13, 2007 7:02am
Quoting mason
I can see Magic id for v1.3 = 666666, while for v1.2 = 666, just move your cursor to open trade window, and tooltip will appear saying the magic id and order description.
Thanks
  • #67
  • Feb 13, 2007 4:06pm Feb 13, 2007 4:06pm
Quoting stickyweb
Trialling V1.3 I see that pending orders at 61.8 & 38.2 fibs are cancelled when price passes 61.8% ... Shouldn't that be 161.8%? Else we're missing the 2 & 3 trades!

Or have I gotten it wrong?
BAT EA V 1.3 EURUSD,H1: attempted OP_BUYLIMIT 0.01000000 lots @1.29795740 sl:1.29430000 tp:1.29960000
BAT EA V 1.3 EURUSD,H1: open #2663111 buy limit 0.01 EURUSD at 1.2980 sl: 1.2943 tp: 1.2996 ok
BAT EA V 1.3 EURUSD,H1: attempted OP_BUYLIMIT 0.02000000 lots @1.29694260 sl:1.29430000 tp:1.29960000
BAT EA V 1.3 EURUSD,H1: open #2663112 buy limit 0.02 EURUSD at 1.2969 sl: 1.2943 tp: 1.2996 ok
BAT EA V 1.3 EURUSD,H1: Price passed 61.8%, closing LimitOrder 2663112
BAT EA V 1.3 EURUSD,H1: delete #2663112 buy limit 0.02 EURUSD at 1.2969 sl: 1.2943 tp: 1.2996 ok
BAT EA V 1.3 EURUSD,H1: Price passed 61.8%, closing LimitOrder 2663111
BAT EA V 1.3 EURUSD,H1: delete #2663111 buy limit 0.01 EURUSD at 1.2980 sl: 1.2943 tp: 1.2996 ok

I check my expert log, it says something about deleting after passing 61.8%, but I was not around, I guess we should get latest rules about this EA to confirm that.
  • #68
  • Feb 13, 2007 4:14pm Feb 13, 2007 4:14pm
Quoting Toothman
Did anyone using version 1.3 get a trade on the EUR/USD at 1.2983 (2:00 EST 2/13/07? My EA didn't trade here when price crossed the Bat line. The GBP/USD should have traded at about the same time and didn't. The USD/CHF should have traded an hour earlier and didn't. Anyone else with same results? Thanks.
BAT EA V 1.3 EURUSD,H1: retryable error (10/10): 129:invalid price
BAT EA V 1.3 EURUSD,H1: non-retryable error: 129:invalid price
BAT EA V 1.3 EURUSD,H1: retry attempts maxed at 10
BAT EA V 1.3 EURUSD,H1: failed to execute OP_BUY/OP_SELL, after 11 retries
BAT EA V 1.3 EURUSD,H1: failed trade: OP_BUY [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]
BAT EA V 1.3 EURUSD,H1: last error: 129:invalid price

Look for "invalid price" in expert log, fuki once told to increase slippage to overcome this, so I will use 10 instead of 3.

my usd/chf make it, but gbp/usd didn't.
  • #69
  • Feb 14, 2007 12:44am Feb 14, 2007 12:44am
Page 8 from PDF file "The BAT by TA"
...

Once price hits the 161.8 level then this type of trade can no longer be valid.
...


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First, both sell limits didn't cancelled out, according to the description about The BAT range trade, those sell limits orders were no longer valid


Second, SL for trade #1 is below the BAT line, while it should be the same as BAT line.


Third, Fibo ret line didn't show up


EA Setting :
MultipleFibos = true
Use_BATATR_Indicator = false


I find slippage=10 makes easier for EA to trade, I run the v1.2 EA with slippage=3 with 2 fail trades, while v1.3 (like the above chart) run with all successful trades.

  • #70
  • Feb 15, 2007 4:59pm Feb 15, 2007 4:59pm
Current Trades :

eventhough I draw myself the fibo lines.

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Previous trades also resulting positive pips, we're getting it slowly.
  • #71
  • Feb 16, 2007 9:39am Feb 16, 2007 9:39am
Quoting fukinagashi
I am now going for one week snowboarding close to "Porte de soleil" in the Haute Savoir in France. Thus you will not here of me for AT LEAST that time.

So I better publish the actual productive version (1.3). MUCH closer to the rules.

There is a 1.4 in testing and it so imitates TA that it is scary, but it is not ready for publishing yet.

Big KUDOS to TeamAlphid for this great system!!!
Hi Fuki,

I believe you were able to enjoy snowboarding this week and you are back in good shape and in one piece!
I am already one of your "bag-it" followers in a demo acc. and I appreciate very much your EA's results so far!
I also decided to demo the BAT EA 1.3 which you recently released , but this is a peculiar situation as I cannot be sure if the EA is working correctly. Please check the attached entries and judge by your self.
Hope you can soon find what was going wrong.

regards

Sotos
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  • #72
  • Feb 16, 2007 9:05pm Feb 16, 2007 9:05pm
Quoting sotos
Hi Fuki,

I believe you were able to enjoy snowboarding this week and you are back in good shape and in one piece!
I am already one of your "bag-it" followers in a demo acc. and I appreciate very much your EA's results so far!
I also decided to demo the BAT EA 1.3 which you recently released , but this is a peculiar situation as I cannot be sure if the EA is working correctly. Please check the attached entries and judge by your self.
Hope you can soon find what was going wrong.

regards

Sotos
It will be nicer if you tell us your settings, and compare it to your manual trade with BAT system.

If you do then you can be more specific to what you're requesting.
  • #73
  • Feb 17, 2007 8:11am Feb 17, 2007 8:11am
Hi Mason

I do not follow up manually the BAT EA and my settings are:
Slipage: 5
Use Bat ATR indicator: True
ATR period: 5
Factor: 4

I believe above settings have nothing to do with EA's opening of a sort position at 1.1621, while the "Long" BAT line was at 1.1660, and there was no "Sort" Bat line in the Horizon. That is what I was asking Fuki about it.

regards

Sotos
  • #74
  • Feb 18, 2007 4:13am Feb 18, 2007 4:13am
Quoting sotos
Hi Mason

I do not follow up manually the BAT EA and my settings are:
Slipage: 5
Use Bat ATR indicator: True
ATR period: 5
Factor: 4

I believe above settings have nothing to do with EA's opening of a sort position at 1.1621, while the "Long" BAT line was at 1.1660, and there was no "Sort" Bat line in the Horizon. That is what I was asking Fuki about it.

regards

Sotos
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I pull up a chart, it looks different from yours.
Setting is also 5 & 4

Red arrow is I think where your EA took trades, I can't find any reason why it does that.

You're right the EA needs some adjustment.

Since I don't run EA on USDCAD, may I suggest you to use another datafeed, since the nature of the BAT indicator is to determine the direction from the first early bar.

Does it happen too in other pairs ?
  • #75
  • Feb 18, 2007 5:07am Feb 18, 2007 5:07am
Thanks for posting your chart, as this helped me to see that all my charts, although they were originally adjusted to 5 & 4, after a couple of weeks were disorganized, and consequently, relevant BAT lines have been wrongly placed.
Now everything is correctly placed, however I am not so sure that it will not happen again, so I will check the BAT lines indicator every day to see whether it is functioning correctly or not.
cheers

Sotos
  • #76
  • Feb 18, 2007 5:16pm Feb 18, 2007 5:16pm
I'm starting a north finance demo with 10K, 500:1, 1hr chatrs, 24 Hrs a day, and will post results on v1.3.

BTW I will run on all major pairs, but is there a consensus on what pairs are best?
  • #77
  • Feb 19, 2007 11:49am Feb 19, 2007 11:49am
Quoting Toothman
I have version 3 on my charts and am looking forward to seeing how it does. Will this version take trades that don't actually touch the Bat line but pass by it? For example, when price comes near the line without touching it during the present hour candle and then on the next hour candle price goes past the line. I'm pretty sure TeamAlphid is taking these trades. Thanks much.
Quoting Toothman
Version 1.3 EA apparently not making trades when price passes by Bat line without touching it. See EUR/USD 1hr. chart on 2/12/07 when price passed line at 1.2998. How can the EA be changed to include these trades?

Toothman, there is no "price passing without touching it". The algorhythm checks for equal or greater/smaller.

So your problem must be something else. Did you check expert and journal tab. You can do that still now if you look into the folders ..\logs and ..\expert\logs\ and open the file of the regarding date.
  • #78
  • Feb 19, 2007 11:55am Feb 19, 2007 11:55am
Quoting mason
I have one more example about swing point, I can see you use fractal to determine the swing high.
Black arrow = EA swing point
Red arrow = Manual swing point
Aye that is a good counter example. The Manual swing Point is obviously no 2nd level fractal at the moment where the trade was taken. In this specific case though I am rather happy with my method. A opposite extreme which is less then 2 candles away from the entry cannot be valid IMHO.
  • #79
  • Feb 19, 2007 5:27pm Feb 19, 2007 5:27pm
fuki,

Glad you're back, we're eagerly waiting for your next EA.

Suggestions are already lined up, are there any features you want us to know first before building it into production.

I did a little experiment with original BAT indicator, you can see at original thread.
  • #80
  • Feb 21, 2007 12:22am Feb 21, 2007 12:22am
Hello fukinagashi, nice to have you back.
First of all, great job of writing this EA for the BAT Method.
I have been testing it and there seems a few problems.
The EA doesn't place new orders once tp has reached for both the 38.2 and 61.8 fib levels.
And there is no way to change the settings for testing.
Is this because of the ex4 file? (instead of the usual mq4 file)
I can't remember why you did this, but it would be great if you could post a mq4 file so we could change the settings for testing etc.

Keep up the good work and profitable trading!
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