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  • #3,841
  • Jul 23, 2008 5:22pm Jul 23, 2008 5:22pm
i have a margin call on FUN. we need more fun and all this has gone way too serious, hehe.

leighsww, you have contributed a lot and not only forex wise. it is sad that you are leaving (I hope you will pop in here for a joke or 2).
  • #3,842
  • Jul 23, 2008 5:24pm Jul 23, 2008 5:24pm
Quoting seeit
post removed by me.
I understand that your intentions were good. Thanks.
  • #3,843
  • Jul 23, 2008 5:30pm Jul 23, 2008 5:30pm
Oh and again ...

PLEASE don't litter this thread with anything positive you have to say to me, you can post your negatives, cuz I'll just not read this thread, haha (just kidding!).

BUT seriously, I do not need any kind of mushy stuff, cuz it's not my intention to receive that attention.

In fact, I am aspiring to do things for the right reasons, so if I do things for praises, then my motivation is not sincere.

I threw out all my trophies and awards years ago, cuz I didn't want to feel that I did what I did for the wrong reasons or just to boost my egor.

I don't need to impress anybody. All I need is my hubby's love and support and I am happy, lol.

I once heard something that will stick with me forever (I can't remember the exact words, but it went something like this) ... when you give anonymously with not wanting any recognition or praise in return, is when you are truly "giving."

I am trying to achieve that level of nirvana, haha, cuz I feel when your inner spirit is clean and with no wrongful motivations or intentions, then you live life with true meaning and fullness. I truly believe this.

Anyway, that's it. Shorter post than most of mine, haha
  • #3,844
  • Jul 23, 2008 5:43pm Jul 23, 2008 5:43pm
Much to sad in here.....

Now for something completely different.

enjoy

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  • #3,845
  • Jul 23, 2008 5:43pm Jul 23, 2008 5:43pm
Quoting piccolo
i have a margin call on FUN. we need more fun and all this has gone way too serious, hehe.
LOL, yeah, sorry. You can whip me for it, haha.

Oh, well now that you have given me permission, maybe I'll make a joke on fti thinking he is an OLD FART!!! Sheesh, fti, your mind limits you to your age. You, the very one who speaks so wisely about "mindset" and you set your mindset to feeling you're old.

My Dad has just made 80 and he still, in his mind, feels young, so we have to scold him when he's trying to climb ladders, or lift heavy objects, lol. But, I give him credit for wanting to still tackle life as he was when he was younger, cuz that makes him stay young at heart.

My hubby and I do the same, we don't feel old. We still play around together and do silly things to each other (okay, I'm not going into details, so don't worry about it ).

We probably look younger than we are, because of our attitude. My mom is 78, but she looks like she's in her 60's. We age well when we take care of ourselves and especially how we feel in attitude and mind.

The heart, mind and emotions create most of how old we feel and how we age.

Everything is "mindset" and fti ... you should know that better than anybody about that! *whip* *whip*
  • #3,846
  • Edited 6:05pm Jul 23, 2008 5:46pm | Edited 6:05pm
Quoting auxesis
Much to sad in here.....
Oops, sorry you feel what I've said as sad.

I think it best I do leave. My intentions were not to make anybody feel sad. GAD, everybody interprets things so differently.

Oh well. Sorry everyone. I think it best that I do leave. I've not created any value, truly. I just had to defend myself, I guess a scorpion in me that I can't let go of, haha.

P.S. I will not read this thread any further so that I do not run the risk of posting here again. I mean it, so please no more postings to me or regarding me. Thank you and I truly am sorry for anybody feeling sad or unhappy! GADs!

Okay, so how about that E/U? Start your discussions ...
  • #3,847
  • Jul 23, 2008 6:20pm Jul 23, 2008 6:20pm
Quoting leighsww
LOL, yeah, sorry. You can whip me for it, haha.

Oh, well now that you have given me permission, maybe I'll make a joke on fti thinking he is an OLD FART!!! Sheesh, fti, your mind limits you to your age. You, the very one who speaks so wisely about "mindset" and you set your mindset to feeling you're old.

My Dad has just made 80 and he still, in his mind, feels young, so we have to scold him when he's trying to climb ladders, or lift heavy objects, lol. But, I give him credit for wanting to still tackle life as he was when he was younger, cuz that makes him stay young at heart.
Now you have me thinking Leigh...I may be another 10 years out on his age...but I remember he once mentioned his teenage kids so I now assume he must have had his children quite late in life....

Anyway, best I leave it there....I'll certainly keep in touch once I get this big move out of the way and contribute to your thread when I get a chance.
  • #3,848
  • Jul 23, 2008 8:21pm Jul 23, 2008 8:21pm
Quoting fti
Hi MaMood,
Absolutely, on the money.
I was just about to point it out to him, when he left for his errants.

Hope he can learn , without having to pay too much for it.

regards
A pig goes left and right...a pig does not know left from right...what do you call one that fight the trend? ...I would call him a cow...

I mean: if you realize that you got your scout on the wrong bus, then would you stay on that bus? Would you rescue? What about if you fail on your rescue? Then you go with a second level rescue, right? but if you fail your second level rescue, you move into a third level...then what do you do?...you stay on that bus until that bus stop at the next price level ...that is a good idea if you have a full day for trading...and that it a luxury that I do not have...it is totally illogical...bleed the book and move on... [by that time if you fail then 0.16 % bad trade would be 200-300% of a bad trade and your heart would be pumping like hell, right?]

it does not make sense at all: the scout is for me 1/6 of a trade...16% of a trade...it does not make sense to defend it...kill the guy and accept the fact that I was wrong...I have done so many times, that it is second nature...the only time that this is wrong is when the market is totally chaotic, without structure, on a narrow range, then it does not work and I do not do wave attacks but range attack...but that is another topic....what I do works very well for me...I am happy with it....Also be aware that I do a fast dance...I do not hang around for hours and hour waiting for 5M to get in line with 1H and 1D...I do not want to trade for longer than 2 hours...

So if I am on the wrong bus, I get off...fast...and I move into the right bus..if I find that I got off on the wrong bus again...then I am confused and I stay out...this only happens with the scout...after all for me that soldier is testing the battle field..just a test...I never do this with the rest of my trades...So am I a pig? If so, then I am not a cow....let us laugh

Hey..remember my commandments: "never trade against 5M trend", "never have more than 1 rescue", "rescue only for timing"...so if I stay with a loser scout, then I violate my own laws, I am a sinner...and that is not allowed.

Regards
Empty as water and soft as a facing wind mountain
  • #3,849
  • Jul 23, 2008 8:28pm Jul 23, 2008 8:28pm
fti:

Thanks for the handheld session on 2008-07-22 night; that is really priceless.

I was late to this thread and when I started to read, it is already >100 pages and >2000 postings. What's more is there are a lot of information to be absorbed, so reading from the start of the thread is really very slow. And this thread keep appending, increasing my back log is small issue, there are times that the discussion of current market situation become very difficult by the time I read. So I "attack" this thread at 2 locations: 1 from the latest posting and 1 from the start: burning the candle from both ends, err, burning the candle from one end and from the middle. (Right now I am still on page 180).

That is how I chanced upon your handheld session on 2008-07-22.

Beside expressing my appreciation of your effort in my first posting here, I would like to post the charts of your 2008-07-22 handheld session with entries marked, so that fellow forumer who come late (later then me) to the thread can understand your action better.

fti if you think the charts are not appropriate, please remove them for me. Thanks.
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  • #3,850
  • Jul 23, 2008 10:00pm Jul 23, 2008 10:00pm
Leighsww, when i said vices, I was trying to say, please drop the quite smoking thing to others. Thats all.

I have read your thread. Great work. I am humbled by people like you and fti that give so much of themselves. I strive to be more like that.
  • #3,851
  • Jul 23, 2008 11:02pm Jul 23, 2008 11:02pm
ooohhh wow, im feeling the heat here...hehehe.

lets take a chill pill guys. I understand that many of us here have made good for themselves, after a few months of trading, you guys have turned pro, thats impressive.

Lets take a look at ourselves in the mirror first, how did we first get here? What made us better, just a word or two from the teacher, and we get a long well written resignation letter and a pig and cow story.

I must say we have alot of egor running in here. It really doesnt matter if you have to kill 10 scouts so that the army may survive/win the war or be rigid to keep your psychological setup in check, but sometimes we should ponder a thing or two, here, what are the posisbilities if i kill less scouts, run some reecsue sequence and then turn it into an attack sequence?

Lets try to continually learn and improve instead, take the snippets by the teacher as a form of good advice. Of course many things will come into mind, many scenarios will take place, its a learning process... Remember, AOW is the backbone of the method.

Im glad you guys have found your niche. Good day and good trading you pros.

Okay, now you guys can take the guns and fire away, im open.

regards
  • #3,852
  • Jul 23, 2008 11:52pm Jul 23, 2008 11:52pm
tend to agree, sounded a little harsh for a couple words.
  • #3,853
  • Edited Jul 24, 2008 12:15am Jul 23, 2008 11:56pm | Edited Jul 24, 2008 12:15am
Quoting fti
Hi ALL,
OMG, this looks like a cemetery to me.
Talk about manipulation.

Something's fishy.
Don't you think?

regards
Sir not sure about this one ...
I recognized that GBP was getting stronger in effect making dollar supposedly weaker , but with other pairs USD just resisted getting weaker , is this why its fishy ?
To Live is the rarest thing in the world , Most people exist , that is all
  • #3,854
  • Jul 24, 2008 12:00am Jul 24, 2008 12:00am
Quoting luSan
A pig goes left and right...a pig does not know left from right...what do you call one that fight the trend? ...I would call him a cow...

[..]

Regards
Hi guys,

I'm very sorry that I have initiated this discussion/dispute and that it got steamed up this way.
So I want to apologize to luSan. My comment was not meant as an attack on you or your style of trading!

My intention was to get that way of trading commented by fti.
The way you handle your scouts is just the way I did it by myself in the past and I'm still not really convinced, what should be wrong about that.

Why should I start a rescue, when I found me on the wrong side of the trend or (to make it a little more difficult) a major move?
Why shouldn't I ride for example at first a short campaign and when the market tells me, the second one on the long side?

For me it is still difficult to define behavior of a pig/changing busses on the one hand and to be nimble on the other hand.

I'm still learning. But I cant trade someone else rules/style if I didn't get the reasoning behind. So I allways have a lot of questions ...
That has been the reason for my question above ....

So once again a stong "sorry" from my side.
  • #3,855
  • Jul 24, 2008 12:32am Jul 24, 2008 12:32am
Hi, guys:

Today, we will see a lot of econ data to be released at 3pm, 4pm for E/U, and 4:30pm for G/U (GMT+8 Zone).

The IFO data will is very important data for euro, if you checked E/U price movement on release days from previous several months.

Good luck to you.

@Leighswww: Why you decide not to post here? Come back and share success and failure(wish you never have too bad failure).

David
  • #3,856
  • Jul 24, 2008 1:10am Jul 24, 2008 1:10am
Quoting MaMood
Hi guys,

I'm very sorry that I have initiated this discussion/dispute and that it got steamed up this way.
So I want to apologize to luSan. My comment was not meant as an attack on you or your style of trading!

My intention was to get that way of trading commented by fti.
The way you handle your scouts is just the way I did it by myself in the past and I'm still not really convinced, what should be wrong about that.

Why should I start a rescue, when I found me on the wrong side of the trend or (to make it a little more difficult) a major move?
Why shouldn't I ride for example at first a short campaign and when the market tells me, the second one on the long side?

For me it is still difficult to define behavior of a pig/changing busses on the one hand and to be nimble on the other hand.

I'm still learning. But I cant trade someone else rules/style if I didn't get the reasoning behind. So I allways have a lot of questions ...
That has been the reason for my question above ....

So once again a stong "sorry" from my side.
@MaMood

I don't think you need to apologise. You were not judgmental or accusative. You were simply asking a question to clarify the concept of what fti defines a pig to be. We are encouraged by fti to ask questions to be sure we understand what he is conveying to us.

@Leigh

This won't win me any brownie points, but to quote my father "If you want to walk, walk. If you want to sit, sit. Do whatever you want but do not wobble." Your numerous departures and comebacks seem like a lot of wobbling to me. I enjoy your postings, but could do without all the drama involved.

@ all
Sorry if my post is offensive to anyone, but I tend to speak my mind. I am not here to please people but to learn and help where I can.
Hope isn't a viable investment vehicle.
  • #3,857
  • Jul 24, 2008 2:48am Jul 24, 2008 2:48am
Hi,

@Dutchangel: Thanx for your kind words.

@All:
It's really all about mindset. This morning I'm dancing USDJPY very aggressive. I just forced me to the attitude "Don't care about your trading account. It's just money!"

In the past I didn't like losing money. I always was concerned about getting in the red for the day. That means everything was fine, when I was winning in my first trade of the day. It gave me some "foreign money" to stay cool at the next trade.

But when my first trade went against me, it was hard to keep cool and do the skewing to the needed rescues. From rescue level to rescue level I got more nervous and as a result, I most of the time missed the right timing.

But with the mantra "It's just money" I feel much more comfortable in doing my campaigns. Doesn't mean that I become reckless. I just become more cool to do the right actions at the right time.

Sorry for this drivel of me, but I'm really happy about that experience...
  • #3,858
  • Jul 24, 2008 3:11am Jul 24, 2008 3:11am
things are slightly hectic with the 3 kingdoms ... retail sales coming up and some other major us news later on , so stay alert ...
To Live is the rarest thing in the world , Most people exist , that is all
  • #3,859
  • Jul 24, 2008 3:41am Jul 24, 2008 3:41am
Quoting MaMood
Hi,

@Dutchangel: Thanx for your kind words.

@All:
It's really all about mindset. This morning I'm dancing USDJPY very aggressive. I just forced me to the attitude "Don't care about your trading account. It's just money!"

In the past I didn't like losing money. I always was concerned about getting in the red for the day. That means everything was fine, when I was winning in my first trade of the day. It gave me some "foreign money" to stay cool at the next trade.

But when my first trade went against me, it was hard to keep cool and do the skewing to the needed rescues. From rescue level to rescue level I got more nervous and as a result, I most of the time missed the right timing.

But with the mantra "It's just money" I feel much more comfortable in doing my campaigns. Doesn't mean that I become reckless. I just become more cool to do the right actions at the right time.

Sorry for this drivel of me, but I'm really happy about that experience...
"damage is part of the battle, recovery is essential , victory is the objective"

This has become my mantra. I also like this from Theodore Roosevelt

"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that this place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat."

Happy trading
Hope isn't a viable investment vehicle.
  • #3,860
  • Jul 24, 2008 5:37am Jul 24, 2008 5:37am
Quoting fti
PS:I am not man of great knowledge.Just a man of little knowledge, enjoying the grace of his creator. And I will NEVER judge God, my creator by the works of man.

again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I5XgIbipqQ
listen to the lyric , very carefully.
I am with you on that fti. The Z production was more about the bible and after reading the Tunnel book and seeing that W.D.Gann saw cycles within it, I suspect some parts of the bible are based on cycles of the planets and stars. The bible was written by man afterall.
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