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  • #1,121
  • Jul 10, 2008 10:36am Jul 10, 2008 10:36am
AUD/JPY's first order closed with TP last night and 2nd order was set to break even. I think there was a question about whether this was a valid trade in the first place?

Bar was up
Dot changed to below
Stochs under 80
AC green

As far as I see it was a second strength trade. AO doesn't have to agree in this situation as the pdf explains it will most likely change in the next bar or two.

A side note: The EA I wrote has a setting that can be changed to False which prevents the EA from taking second strength trades. The default is true so it will take them unless changed.
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  • #1,122
  • Edited 11:06am Jul 10, 2008 10:51am | Edited 11:06am
We'll be right, just stick to the plan. The only one which is a bit of a worry is GBP/CHF, but it looks like it might be on the way back up now hopefully.

However, I think I'll be confirming with another system in future too, like OZ or Rads MTF HAS.

I didn't take AUD/USD sell. Take a look at the candle of the 7th which is the one which determined whether you took it. On this candle the Stoch signal line is 55.53, while the blue line is 68.17. i.e., on the important candle blue is above red which is actually a buy signal. I don't care what the stoch is on the following candle, as when the trade was taken that candle would have been only a few minutes old. Anyone else see this???

I know I like to be able to see possible trades as well, but absolutely everything must be correct otherwise I'll just sit patiently and watch.
  • #1,123
  • Jul 10, 2008 10:56am Jul 10, 2008 10:56am
Quoting pbalfe@tisca
Hi Ash or anybody,

I am sure that i am right tha the T/P for Eur/Cad is 1.5840 =
high of previous candle = 1.6005 minus
close of previous candle = 1.5922 = 83 pips

Open price = 1.5924 minus 83 pips = 1.5841

Thanks
Paul
Paul, my calculations are exactly the same as yours. However, I am new to this so don't profess to be the expert!

James
James The Beekeeper
  • #1,124
  • Jul 10, 2008 11:03am Jul 10, 2008 11:03am
Quoting edeyj999
Paul, my calculations are exactly the same as yours. However, I am new to this so don't profess to be the expert!

James
Thanks James,

I know i am right but i have this suuden urge of inadaquecy, like i dont know what i am doing is right and that has lasted all day, maybe its because my trade is doing sooooo well

Paul
  • #1,125
  • Jul 10, 2008 11:11am Jul 10, 2008 11:11am
Quoting kenshin
We'll be right, just stick to the plan. The only one which is a bit of a worry is GBP/CHF, but it looks like it might be on the way back up now hopefully.

However, I think I'll be confirming with another system in future too, like OZ or Rads MTF HAS.

I didn't take AUD/USD sell. Take a look at the candle of the 7th which is the one which determined whether you took it. On this candle the Stoch signal line is 55.53, while the blue line is 68.17. i.e., on the important candle blue is above red which is actually a buy signal. I don't care what the stoch is on the following candle, as when the trade was taken that candle would have been only a few minutes old. Anyone else see this???

I know I like to be able to see possible trades as well, but absolutely everything must be correct otherwise I'll just sit patiently and watch.
I don't see where stoch doesn't confirm a sell on FXDD. It is close but as you can see on the left of my screen shot the Stoch is 58.7973 and the signal is 59.0973. Main was below the signal and on top of that I made money on this trade. I agree it has moved up but I bagged 69 pips and the second trade stopped at break even. Barely made the 69 as you can see from the chart but it did work and it was a valid signal on that bar for FXDD.

As I posted this I noticed we may have a second strength buy today on this as well.
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  • #1,126
  • Jul 10, 2008 11:15am Jul 10, 2008 11:15am
Quoting kenshin
We'll be right, just stick to the plan. The only one which is a bit of a worry is GBP/CHF, but it looks like it might be on the way back up now hopefully.

However, I think I'll be confirming with another system in future too, like OZ or Rads MTF HAS.

I didn't take AUD/USD sell. Take a look at the candle of the 7th which is the one which determined whether you took it. On this candle the Stoch signal line is 55.53, while the blue line is 68.17. i.e., on the important candle blue is above red which is actually a buy signal. I don't care what the stoch is on the following candle, as when the trade was taken that candle would have been only a few minutes old. Anyone else see this???

I know I like to be able to see possible trades as well, but absolutely everything must be correct otherwise I'll just sit patiently and watch.
kenshin,

This is very good point, and it worth to double check from now on!
The signal candle is red, can't be a buy signal anyway. However, the Stochs line the blue and the red was a crossing UP, that is a signal against the Ashly system. Cause, for you to Sell, it has to be a crossing DOWN.

How is that?

Trader8686
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  • #1,127
  • Jul 10, 2008 11:18am Jul 10, 2008 11:18am
Quoting trader8686
kenshin,

This is very good point, and it worth to double check from now on!
The signal candle is red, can't be a buy signal anyway. However, the Stochs line the blue and the red was a crossing UP, that is a signal against the Ashly system. Cause, for you to Sell, it has to be a crossing DOWN.

How is that?

Trader8686
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You guys must not be using FXDD?
  • #1,128
  • Jul 10, 2008 11:23am Jul 10, 2008 11:23am
There is a signal for eur/usd today, so if that is the case a buy is in for the pair so those trading gbp/chf may see more downside, just my 6 cents.
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  • #1,129
  • Jul 10, 2008 11:24am Jul 10, 2008 11:24am
Hi Guys & Gals, I've got FXDD with appropriate indicators but didn't see the trades Ash was talking about yesterday. I took the USD/CAD short last night and I'm up about 25 pips right now. Big E
  • #1,130
  • Jul 10, 2008 11:32am Jul 10, 2008 11:32am
Quoting sharon_gpl
There is a signal for eur/usd today, so if that is the case a buy is in for the pair so those trading gbp/chf may see more downside, just my 6 cents.
No valid signal on FXDD!
James The Beekeeper
  • #1,131
  • Jul 10, 2008 11:37am Jul 10, 2008 11:37am
Quoting mtaboneweb
I don't see where stoch doesn't confirm a sell on FXDD. It is close but as you can see on the left of my screen shot the Stoch is 58.7973 and the signal is 59.0973. Main was below the signal and on top of that I made money on this trade. I agree it has moved up but I bagged 69 pips and the second trade stopped at break even. Barely made the 69 as you can see from the chart but it did work and it was a valid signal on that bar for FXDD.

As I posted this I noticed we may have a second strength buy today on this as well.
Yes, I'm using FXDD but it seems that you get different values from stoch depending on how much you have expanded the chart horizontally. Here's one with full expansion which confirms what you've said, but it's so close.

The following chart is FXDD with the default expansion and when I hover the mouse on the stoch values then I get what I originally said.

Sorry for any confusion, but I still feel it's way to close. They might as well be touching. Maybe we should only take it when stochs are showing a definite pattern like // or \\.

Oh yeah, the EA did a number on my demo account. lol. It definitely does not follow the sl/tp rules or the first psar rule, but I shall let it continue to play.
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  • #1,132
  • Jul 10, 2008 11:39am Jul 10, 2008 11:39am
Quoting edeyj999
No valid signal on FXDD!

I am taking the trade, eur/usd I will add if lower is seen, looking at the charts the trend is up and it also conforms with Ozfx system.
  • #1,133
  • Jul 10, 2008 11:40am Jul 10, 2008 11:40am
Quoting sharon_gpl
There is a signal for eur/usd today, so if that is the case a buy is in for the pair so those trading gbp/chf may see more downside, just my 6 cents.
Hi sharon_gpl,

I'm not seeing a signal for EURUSD on FXDD platform.

IBFX uses slightly different data and won't usually show the same setups at the same time as FXDD.

You might want to consider using FXDD demo to practice on.

pd
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  • #1,134
  • Jul 10, 2008 11:42am Jul 10, 2008 11:42am
Quoting mtaboneweb
You guys must not be using FXDD?
I have been always on FXDD. Why?


Trader8686
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  • #1,135
  • Jul 10, 2008 11:47am Jul 10, 2008 11:47am
Quoting PistolDave
Hi sharon_gpl,

I'm not seeing a signal for EURUSD on FXDD platform.

IBFX uses slightly different data and won't usually show the same setups at the same time as FXDD.

You might want to consider using FXDD demo to practice on.

pd

Hi,

I have the signal on both ODL and IBFX, but looking at your Fxdd chart even though the psar is not there if you see the other technicals indcates long. Cheers.
  • #1,136
  • Jul 10, 2008 11:48am Jul 10, 2008 11:48am
Quoting PistolDave
Hi sharon_gpl,

I'm not seeing a signal for EURUSD on FXDD platform.

IBFX uses slightly different data and won't usually show the same setups at the same time as FXDD.

You might want to consider using FXDD demo to practice on.

pd
Agree, I don't see EURUSD a signal, either.
Didn't see the first PSAR dot under today's bar.


Trader8686
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Just like to learn it better!
  • #1,137
  • Jul 10, 2008 11:52am Jul 10, 2008 11:52am
Quoting kenshin
Yes, I'm using FXDD but it seems that you get different values from stoch depending on how much you have expanded the chart horizontally. Here's one with full expansion which confirms what you've said, but it's so close.

The following chart is FXDD with the default expansion and when I hover the mouse on the stoch values then I get what I originally said.

Sorry for any confusion, but I still feel it's way to close. They might as well be touching. Maybe we should only take it when stochs are showing a definite pattern like // or \\.
The numbers are the numbers. They should not change depending on your zoom on the chart. I agree they were close but if you're going to make a decision then you should open your data window for the close of the bar values. Never trust to where you hover your mouse on the chart.

Quoting kenshin
Oh yeah, the EA did a number on my demo account. lol. It definitely does not follow the sl/tp rules or the first psar rule, but I shall let it continue to play.
My EA did? Are you running the most current version?

AshFX AutoTrader v1.0d
  • #1,138
  • Jul 10, 2008 11:56am Jul 10, 2008 11:56am
Quoting sharon_gpl
I am taking the trade, eur/usd I will add if lower is seen, looking at the charts the trend is up and it also conforms with Ozfx system.
May I know what is Ozfx system?

Trader8686
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Just like to learn it better!
  • #1,139
  • Edited 12:21pm Jul 10, 2008 12:10pm | Edited 12:21pm
Quoting mtaboneweb
The numbers are the numbers. They should not change depending on your zoom on the chart.
They do when you hover, and I am accurate at this hovering on the correct candle. I guess I am getting different times within the candle and not the candle close values.
Quoting mtaboneweb
If you're going to make a decision then you should open your data window for the close of the bar values. Never trust to where you hover your mouse on the chart.
Thanks. Never knew about the data window. You learn something every day. Now my numbers do match.

Quoting mtaboneweb
My EA did? Are you running the most current version?

AshFX AutoTrader v1.0d
No. Ronald Rayguns. I will be happy to test yours if/when you release the source.
  • #1,140
  • Jul 10, 2008 12:32pm Jul 10, 2008 12:32pm
Quoting kenshin

No. Ronald Rayguns. I will be happy to test yours if and when you release the source.
Couple things: What's wrong with the SL/TP on my EAs?

Which EA?
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