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  • #141
  • May 15, 2008 5:26am May 15, 2008 5:26am
Quoting fxbroker



I do not want to comment on it before, but you brought it up, and I have proved to you that by hiding the fact that you also charge something but telling people not to pay for the good course of an experienced trader, you have allowed yourself to be used by satan to make other people to continue to lose their money to their brokers.

Satan is the major culprit why people loses in the market place.
This is true as I have done enough research in this area which not anyone can prove otherwise. Or else you have to tell me why you keep losing and not only you even the likes of Morgan Stanley, Merrill Lynch, Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns, Northern Rock, Societal General.

The difference is that when corporate bodies loses they call it fault of rogue traders, they cover it up, and throw the rogue away, after he or she has allowed himself to be manipulated by satan. You believe in satan or not does not matter, he uses in people in the market and dumped them. People are not making losses because they are dumbed, but because they allow market and things of life to over-burden them

Once something is wrong with a system - satan is usually responsible, but you won't know this until he has manipulated you, harassed you until you became distressed, dejected and helpless before you start looking for alternative solution. That alternative is Jesus Christ. Don't ask me why Jesus Christ or don't bring Jesus Christ into this, but you can giggle, He likes peace and want people to overcome all situations.

There could either be good or evil, profit or loss. satan is the defacto prince of eivl spirits, losses, panic, fear and all the negative habits traders have.

The real truth is that there is nothing like fear, panic, etc in the market, not even your random idea. Losses are as a result of opposed thoughts in people's mind, which is external to the market. Just like you opposed James16 here on this thread. This is not your fault, but satan's fault.

You can take me on this if people will allow this post to continue or not. I can see it easily bumped out because people will prefer to continue to chase losses by not accepting FACT, that market is NOT RANDOM, but that we have CHRIST'S WISDOM to help them to overcome losses, people do not have to continue to trade in ignorance, and this WISDOM is higher than human wisdom and knowledge, than any Ph.D or Wall St. training on what we know regarding financial markets.

Take it not it is high time we start looking at alternative knowledge to econometrics in this industry.

nutcase if you ask me! - ever thought you might be possessed by satan in writing this ? -

or maybe the owner of FF for designing and creating a forum in which satan can manuipulate. or maybe his great grandfather for conceiving his dad so he could do this forum so satan could manipulate .... or ....

yada yada yada

ive heard some reasons for losing in this game but that takes passing responsibility to a new level. "my system failed not because it was a bad system, but because satan made it fail"

is there a doctor in the house?
https://linktr.ee/Soultrader
  • #142
  • May 15, 2008 5:39am May 15, 2008 5:39am
guys, at some point this thread was actually interesting to read.

now you're fighting over jesus, satan, randomness and james16, who i personally think is pretty cool, even if he charges $100 something a month.how random is that (get the joke)?

literally, the last few pages of the thread are about jesus, satan, randomness and james16. can we please grow up a little?
  • #143
  • May 15, 2008 5:45am May 15, 2008 5:45am
Quoting soultrader
ever thought you might be possessed by satan in writing this ?
Lets leave the demon theories at home shall we.
  • #144
  • May 15, 2008 7:01am May 15, 2008 7:01am
poor kids is having a squabble......dont let your trading losses get over your heads...behave like an adult....be cool. let's get back to the original discussion, it was very interesting
btw, we really need to feel sorry for the losers who can only do negative postings...they are real losers and so depressed in real life, so this is their only way to vent...
  • #145
  • May 15, 2008 7:06am May 15, 2008 7:06am
The market is traded by people and by algorithms based upon human logic - and those are the things that move it. That, is the most basic simple fundumental and important realization that you should make. Once you realize that, your mind will answer for you most of those questions about - how do I create a profitable system.
On the path to Enrichment.
  • #146
  • May 15, 2008 7:07am May 15, 2008 7:07am
Quoting bluelabel
btw, we really need to feel sorry for the losers who can only do negative postings...they are real losers and so depressed in real life, so this is their only way to vent...
Yup.
On the path to Enrichment.
  • #147
  • May 15, 2008 7:18am May 15, 2008 7:18am
Quoting tenantro
guys, at some point this thread was actually interesting to read.

now you're fighting over jesus, satan, randomness and james16, who i personally think is pretty cool, even if he charges $100 something a month.how random is that (get the joke)?

literally, the last few pages of the thread are about jesus, satan, randomness and james16. can we please grow up a little?
Read the title of the thread - perplexed -year spent looking for a system.
If you do not want to hear all different theories then do not read this thread.

This is why humanity will not get it right.

My response to this post simply ask Soul Trader to give an answer to this thread.

http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=121

Then he mentioned satan at the end of his own reply, now I mention how satan manipulates markets by misleading masses, now you are saying leave it out it. it is up to anyone to accept how to cure his/her losses.

That is how satan manipulate markets, and now you do not want to read it or allow other people to read. My response is not about james16 or any other person but to give people FACT why you allow fear and panic to get better hold of your trade.

You can talk of pyschology of trading, emotions but you cannot face the fact about own thoughts . What is pyschology of trading? able to deal with negatives thinking about market..........examples is my response of one person telling masses, that another system is bad.

You can delete my post, or banned the thread, this is not the first time people groan in pains and miseries and still banned the Word of God. There is nothing anyone is going to say that has not been said, or any intelligent human being out there is going to offer other than what has already been offered.

I can hear people who do not even know about science or theories or can even define what is random theory telling me to leave Jesus out of it, instead of standing up to prove me wrong.

Go on and defined what is random market, what is science, what is theory,
or tell us why people are always losing in this market, if you have a better solution.
  • #148
  • May 15, 2008 7:34am May 15, 2008 7:34am
You're seriously delusional, but I guess I can understand your obstructed views if you really are from Namibia like your profile says.I guess the west's scientific and objective reasoning hasn't quite caught up there yet.
  • #149
  • May 15, 2008 7:34am May 15, 2008 7:34am
Quoting daytrading
Without criticising or supporting anyone's beliefs and opinions, Religion and Politics should be kept outside.

regards
daytrading


Let's talk about business, people...

http://logo.cafepress.com/1/1015502.1817341.jpg

Isn't he nice???
Many share my views with me. But I don't share them with them...
  • #150
  • May 15, 2008 7:38am May 15, 2008 7:38am
Quoting Jurrasic
The market is traded by people and by algorithms based upon human logic - and those are the things that move it. That, is the most basic simple fundumental and important realization that you should make. Once you realize that, your mind will answer for you most of those questions about - how do I create a profitable system.
now THAT is an interesting post.

Question - what does an algorhythm look like that's based on human logic? there's an interesting discussion, thanks for bringing it up.
https://linktr.ee/Soultrader
  • #151
  • May 15, 2008 7:41am May 15, 2008 7:41am
Quoting tenantro
You're seriously delusional, but I guess I can understand your obstructed views if you really are from Namibia like your profile says.I guess the west's scientific and objective reasoning hasn't quite caught up there yet.

heheheeee I am used to such narrow minded insults!
you are trying to hide your ignorance, lack of knowledge and inability
to define what is random theory by being abusive
comm on you can do better than this.

Give me a definition and show your intellect publicly now.

Anyway I am off to start my coaching someone more responsible
i will reply you later
  • #152
  • May 15, 2008 7:51am May 15, 2008 7:51am
Quoting fxbroker
I thank you for your honesty in answering the question whether you charge users of your chatroom for overheads. Is that not what other people are doing too? Charge for time and overhead to provide training or tips or whatever you call them. Why then were you telling people not to take James16 more seriously?

This is one way satan operates in the market, he hides truth from masses using human thoughts. Please do not get me wrong, I am not saying you are satanic. Just explaining the way he manipulates people in the markets.

We can conclude by saying you have been misleading people with your posts on this particular thread. That is not professionalism but deciet!


It does not matter whether you charge $1 or not but by publicly brooding over the successes of James16 with just few subscribers who beleived in him and supporting his good work, you allow yourself to be used by satan who opposed what is good in nature. This is not a Random event, but well calculated actions. Satan uses peoples' mind to do havoc. This is how nature is, believe it or not.

For those believing you that they do not have to pay for anything to make it in forex you have misslead them, and they may continue to believe so and will continue to make losses. We have more than 95% of people thinking like this. You can correlate this with figures that says 95% quits due to losses. So this is one way satan manipulates market.

Oh about this. I presume you are referring to me and my thread.



I do not want to comment on it before, but you brought it up, and I have proved to you that by hiding the fact that you also charge something but telling people not to pay for the good course of an experienced trader, you have allowed yourself to be used by satan to make other people to continue to lose their money to their brokers.

Satan is the major culprit why people loses in the market place.
This is true as I have done enough research in this area which not anyone can prove otherwise. Or else you have to tell me why you keep losing and not only you even the likes of Morgan Stanley, Merrill Lynch, Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns, Northern Rock, Societal General.

The difference is that when corporate bodies loses they call it fault of rogue traders, they cover it up, and throw the rogue away, after he or she has allowed himself to be manipulated by satan. You believe in satan or not does not matter, he uses in people in the market and dumped them. People are not making losses because they are dumbed, but because they allow market and things of life to over-burden them

Once something is wrong with a system - satan is usually responsible, but you won't know this until he has manipulated you, harassed you until you became distressed, dejected and helpless before you start looking for alternative solution. That alternative is Jesus Christ. Don't ask me why Jesus Christ or don't bring Jesus Christ into this, but you can giggle, He likes peace and want people to overcome all situations.

There could either be good or evil, profit or loss. satan is the defacto prince of eivl spirits, losses, panic, fear and all the negative habits traders have.

The real truth is that there is nothing like fear, panic, etc in the market, not even your random idea. Losses are as a result of opposed thoughts in people's mind, which is external to the market. Just like you opposed James16 here on this thread. This is not your fault, but satan's fault.

You can take me on this if people will allow this post to continue or not. I can see it easily bumped out because people will prefer to continue to chase losses by not accepting FACT, that market is NOT RANDOM, but that we have CHRIST'S WISDOM to help them to overcome losses, people do not have to continue to trade in ignorance, and this WISDOM is higher than human wisdom and knowledge, than any Ph.D or Wall St. training on what we know regarding financial markets.

Take it not it is high time we start looking at alternative knowledge to econometrics in this industry.


I just glanced at this thread for 2 seconds and nearly pissed myself laughing. Is there a "Forex Factory's Greatest Hits" section? Throw this in there. I used to work at 2 of those shops so it looks like I'm totally screwed.

Please develop a quantitative model proving satanic influence and I am all ears.
  • #153
  • May 15, 2008 7:54am May 15, 2008 7:54am
Quoting BillyRayValentine
I just glanced at this thread for 2 seconds and nearly pissed myself laughing. Is there a "Forex Factory's Greatest Hits" section? Throw this in there. I used to work at 2 of those shops so it looks like I'm totally screwed.

Please develop a quantitative model proving satanic influence and I am all ears.
hey, nice idea!

IŽll vote for it!
Many share my views with me. But I don't share them with them...
  • #154
  • May 15, 2008 7:55am May 15, 2008 7:55am
Quoting fxbroker
heheheeee I am used to such narrow minded insults!
you are trying to hide your ignorance, lack of knowledge and inability
to define what is random theory by being abusive
comm on you can do better than this.

Give me a definition and show your intellect publicly now.

Anyway I am off to start my coaching someone more responsible
i will reply you later
In case you were not aware, some people aren't dying to prove themselves with every occasion they get, probably because they don't feel the need to.
  • #155
  • May 15, 2008 7:56am May 15, 2008 7:56am
Quoting HouseTrader
hey, nice idea!

IŽll vote for it!
I think I will vote for that as well, what the hell, this thread isn't going places anyway
  • #156
  • May 15, 2008 7:57am May 15, 2008 7:57am
Quoting soultrader
now THAT is an interesting post.

Question - what does an algorhythm look like that's based on human logic? there's an interesting discussion, thanks for bringing it up.
Not so much based but certainly - meant to exploit it. Simply, buy when EVERYBODY wants to buy and run away with the profit before they can change their minds, while of course maintaining the simple logical rules of proper risk to reward and money management.

Quoting tenantro
You're seriously delusional, but I guess I can understand your obstructed views if you really are from Namibia like your profile says.I guess the west's scientific and objective reasoning hasn't quite caught up there yet.
SPAM !
On the path to Enrichment.
  • #157
  • May 15, 2008 8:04am May 15, 2008 8:04am
soul im trying real hard to understand why you make statements with no idea whether what your saying is true or not. why would you do that?

you can certainly have your opinion about one of my posts and you might even be correct. im not perfect and if i came accross as patronising fine but you didnt stop there did you?

here are the facts.

the group was not my idea. i never asked nor did i even want to do it at that time. merlin thought it would be a good idea early on when forex factory had maybe 200 people a day stopping in. i was getting swamped for requests for help. about 20 people along with merlin asked me to start the paid group to compensate for the time i was putting in.

i never in a million years planned for nor thought that my group would turn into what it has. i am greatful for so many fine peoples trust. watching so many struggling traders find success with the groups help has blessed me beyond words.

very very few people have more experience with the scammers in this business than i do. ive been trading since 1983. ive seen it all. i can without any doubt say that 90 percent of trading education sites and signal services are run by people that could not trade there way out of a wet paper bag.

the reason i did not want to start the group was because even though in my heart i knew i was not going to fit into that 90 percent i was going to get my share of people like you that would throw me in regardless. im not saying your a bad person soul im just saying your blanket statements were very inconsiderate, inmature and uncalled for.

i have run several businesses for many years but trading has always been my passion. the group has been a drain on my income for two straight years. it does not compensate for the money i lose as a result of the time it requires and therefore takes away from my other endeavors. between the group instructors and the site costs i get around 40 percent of the money max.

my reputation as one of the good guys has given me oppurtunities to make more money with this group than you could imagine but guess what?

i have turned them all down.

i have have had offers to partner with forex.com, ibfx, fxcm, more i wont list, several magazines interview offers, countless banner offers and offers from some big names in this business to do seminars with them.

not one red dime has ever been spent on advertising. NOT ONE.

merlin has offered me a chance at a small banner at forex factory and if i ever do decide to do anything it would bve here and low key.

now soul does that sound like someone that is making there living off of other traders or is even trying too?

why did i turn them down? i enjoy my life. ive worked hard to get to a point where money is not my main focus in life. i could care less if the group is 20 or 2000 because i dont need it for my living and it angers me when someone that has no clue about me and my motives lumps me in with the scammers.

my motive for the group is to help people for as low a cost as i can. im far more worried about compensating my instructors than myself and i prove that month in and month out. i have more people in my group that pay nothing than those that do.

the group was built to be a place where new traders could feel safe, learn some things that work, have instructors that are good at there subject and perhaps most importantly give them a place where they could find out if this business is for them without cleaning out there bank account.

i have never called myself a guru. i am simply a long time trader with a lot of experience that was literally shocked when it became clear that my simple approaches were working for A LOT of people.

i have no problems with fair criticism but i do have a problem with off the cuff statements that are hurtful and not based on facts. i saw another example of this from you this morning. do you personally know rob booker or peter bain?

you said off the cuff that they are example of teachers that dont trade.

soul i know them personally. they both trade. rob is a trading machine not only for himself but he also manages money.

i honestly would like to friends with you soul and once again i apologise if one of my posts upset you but this speaking with no basis in fact is not only hurtful to decent people its just flat out wrong.

the last thing i think you want is to be banned. i can tell you that someone is watching that will not allow slandering of decent people that are truly trying to help the trading community. free speech is a great thing but it should be used with caution when you are speaking of people on a specefic basis.

your friend hopefully,

jim
  • #158
  • May 15, 2008 10:30am May 15, 2008 10:30am
Wow..FXBroker..

Very interesting thoughts....perhaps this is not the best forum to discuss about satans etc...

However, as crazy as the thought may be for folks here...what you said is really really very subtle....and in the metaphysical plane..

Man you should be in India...your thoughts are very spiritual...you will find good guidance here in India....

You will interested to know that 90% of the worlds population is effected by some forms of ghost, which hinder the normal process of life...

I will not go any further as people think these thoughts are crazy....they are also right..cos satanic effects cannot be measured in a laboratory or seen through a microscope...it is spiritual..which cannot be measured...just like...divinity of Jesus christ could never be analysed in a lab and given a value..say....9.43 Divinity to the power of 2

Science and Spirituality could never merge cos they both are in different dimensions altogeher at the same time true.

You could check out spiritualresearchfoundation.com whcih gives lots of info on what you looking for..

I hope this post stays for some time else the admin may delete it cos of URl
  • #159
  • May 15, 2008 11:15am May 15, 2008 11:15am
Sigh. Thread has gone from a reasonable complaint to a series of rants, tangents, trollings and accusations. Any constructive criticism left here?
  • #160
  • May 15, 2008 11:47am May 15, 2008 11:47am
Please refer to my MoneyTec thread, first person to work out the common denominator gets a chocolate fish.
The breaking of a wave cannot explain the whole sea.
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