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  • #121
  • Apr 20, 2008 11:22pm Apr 20, 2008 11:22pm
Hey guys,
Quick question. Why does the GO indicator has a few bars ahead of the current bar in the chart? Therefore, for the EUGT trade, which GO bar should we be referencing to?

thanks.

Still learning the system.
  • #122
  • Apr 20, 2008 11:35pm Apr 20, 2008 11:35pm
Another question...

Anyone here using Oanda as a broker for this system?

I was just wondering how would I interpret the MM for Oanda since it is in units instead of lots.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
  • #123
  • Apr 21, 2008 2:19am Apr 21, 2008 2:19am
Quoting gyfu
Hey guys,
Quick question. Why does the GO indicator has a few bars ahead of the current bar in the chart? Therefore, for the EUGT trade, which GO bar should we be referencing to?

thanks.

Still learning the system.
The bars ahead are a kind of future prediction. You should be using the bar the coincides with the last close candlestick.
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #124
  • Apr 21, 2008 2:20am Apr 21, 2008 2:20am
Quoting gyfu
Another question...

Anyone here using Oanda as a broker for this system?

I was just wondering how would I interpret the MM for Oanda since it is in units instead of lots.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
I don't know anything about Oanda. Maybe lots and units are the same thing

anybody.........
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #125
  • Apr 21, 2008 2:27am Apr 21, 2008 2:27am
Damonl, which broker are you using? My broker is alpari UK and they haven't got any Sunday bars. They start from Monday at 00:00am so in this case Sunday bar is not applicable.

Let me know what you think.

I saw on a post by someone that he uses ODL Demo for reading off charts.
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  • #126
  • Apr 21, 2008 2:32am Apr 21, 2008 2:32am
Quoting walesoje1
Damonl, which broker are you using? My broker is alpari UK and they haven't got any Sunday bars. They start from Monday at 00:00am so in this case Sunday bar is not applicable.

Let me know what you think.

I saw on a post by someone that he uses ODL Demo for reading off charts.
I have apari as well. I will look into it for charting....back to bed for me
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #127
  • Apr 21, 2008 2:55am Apr 21, 2008 2:55am
Can you just let me know which broker you use for your charting?

Thank you.

Quoting damonl
I have apari as well. I will look into it for charting....back to bed for me
Trading Just Got Easier...
  • #128
  • Apr 21, 2008 3:51am Apr 21, 2008 3:51am
Quoting walesoje1
Can you just let me know which broker you use for your charting?

Thank you.
Hey wlj....couldn't sleep and so I set up alpari. I must say that I like the Sunday Bar chart better so I will stick with that.

I currently use IBFX and have really had no trouble with them.
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #129
  • Apr 21, 2008 4:12am Apr 21, 2008 4:12am
I have added a feature where the calculated lot sizes are now transcribed down by each pair. Now when you are managing your trades you no longer need to scroll back to the top of the page to find out how many lot sizes you should be using

Update Spreadsheet:
Attached File(s)
File Type: xls ATP-ETG-Master.xls   74 KB | 369 downloads
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #130
  • Apr 21, 2008 4:53am Apr 21, 2008 4:53am
hi Damonl,
If it is not too much of a trouble, can i ask a favor of you.

In your Master.xls, could you possibly update the latest entry and exit criteria for the so far 3 methods. NLTT, DNLTT and EUGT, as well as the many more that may come.

Sort of a cheat sheet that Bull did previously.

In this way, if you have any updates on the methods, it can easily be identified. I would love to help update the sheet but at the moment, I am still learning and losing some of the methods if there are changes in the criteria.

Thanks. Let me know if I can help in anyway..
  • #131
  • Apr 21, 2008 6:16am Apr 21, 2008 6:16am
Quoting gyfu
hi Damonl,
If it is not too much of a trouble, can i ask a favor of you.

In your Master.xls, could you possibly update the latest entry and exit criteria for the so far 3 methods. NLTT, DNLTT and EUGT, as well as the many more that may come.

Sort of a cheat sheet that Bull did previously.

In this way, if you have any updates on the methods, it can easily be identified. I would love to help update the sheet but at the moment, I am still learning and losing some of the methods if there are changes in the criteria.

Thanks. Let me know if I can help in anyway..
I will only be able to put it on a .pdf. I have no idea how Bull was able to do what he did. Maybe when Bull gets a chance he can do this for us again. I'll see what I can do
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #132
  • Apr 21, 2008 8:47am Apr 21, 2008 8:47am
Hi damon, i'm a bit confused about the evolution of your system.

What confuses me the most is the market entry using theese other indicators.
Lets take as an example a long entry..

I have to watch on my charts the Gator, the NonLag and the Solar.
Lets say the Solar has passed over the 0 for last bar. I have a long signal. Now i should watch for the NonLag and see if it turned blue on same bar, then i would check the Gator for a "red below,green up" signal (always on same bar).

Do all theese signals have to appear at the same time on the same bar?
Or at the contrary ar theese signals "standalone"..for example if signal appears on Gator alone would i place my long?

I have a couple more but i'm waiting for this to be clarified before i mess things up for everybody..
However when i get the concept right, i'll post charts with examples so that it will be easier for newcomers to understand the rules.
  • #133
  • Apr 21, 2008 9:02am Apr 21, 2008 9:02am
Quoting Postrock
Hi damon, i'm a bit confused about the evolution of your system.

What confuses me the most is the market entry using theese other indicators.
Lets take as an example a long entry..

I have to watch on my charts the Gator, the NonLag and the Solar.
Lets say the Solar has passed over the 0 for last bar. I have a long signal. Now i should watch for the NonLag and see if it turned blue on same bar, then i would check the Gator for a "red below,green up" signal (always on same bar).

Do all theese signals have to appear at the same time on the same bar?
Or at the contrary ar theese signals "standalone"..for example if signal appears on Gator alone would i place my long?

I have a couple more but i'm waiting for this to be clarified before i mess things up for everybody..
However when i get the concept right, i'll post charts with examples so that it will be easier for newcomers to understand the rules.
Hi Postrock,

I think you´re mxing up several different entry methods. The original trade entry for a trend reversal just uses the SWI and the NL, whereas the EUGT trade signal is created by he Gator.

Probably better for you to write down the different trade entries and determine based on what was provided here, what indicators to use and then look for that at the charts one after another. That´s what I did with Damons first ATP trade where we had tons of entry rules

Hope that helps.
David
  • #134
  • Apr 21, 2008 10:29am Apr 21, 2008 10:29am
Quote
I will only be able to put it on a .pdf. I have no idea how Bull was able to do what he did. Maybe when Bull gets a chance he can do this for us again. I'll see what I can do

Thanks Damon.. it is definitely appreciated along with your other help in here.

  • #135
  • Apr 21, 2008 10:33am Apr 21, 2008 10:33am
How long do we keep our pending orders open?

And if I remember correctly, there is still no stop loss to put in place right, except for an invisible stop loss.

Please correct me if I am wrong here about my assumptions.
  • #136
  • Apr 21, 2008 11:20am Apr 21, 2008 11:20am
Damonl and all,

This might not be the best .pdf file for the ATP - Evolution To Greatness but I promise on working on it later. All the rules for the ATP Evolution to Greatness can be found here.

I just converted this now to post for everyone to have an idea about proper rules.

Damonl, if you have the MS Word format for all the rules you can send to me through PM or just attach it here and I will definitely convert it.
Attached File(s)
File Type: pdf ATP E2G.pdf   165 KB | 553 downloads
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  • #137
  • Apr 21, 2008 5:57pm Apr 21, 2008 5:57pm
Hi Damon and everybody

I you wish I can update my last ATP spreadsheet (for the old method) with this new rules, including Theory for a quick reference, give me a day and I'll try to upload tomorrow.

Also, please let me know if you want to made a new e-book (like the old) with all this new rules (it's ready or we need to wait for some new rules??)

BTW, in the old thread I upload a Access DB, I really don't know if anybody are using it, in these case please let me know if need something.

Damon can I suggest something?? May be can be a good idea if we can meet in a live chat forum at TradingRoom.com 30 minutes before the new daily bar (00.00 GMT) to prepare altogether the set up for the new day, please let me know your opinion and I'll open a new room "ATP".

Thanks again for your support.
  • #138
  • Edited 6:23pm Apr 21, 2008 6:10pm | Edited 6:23pm
I second the motion to start a TradingRoom chat room to discuss setups before the new daily bar. We should also post the daily trades here on FF.

TimeFreedom

Quoting Bull
Damon can I suggest something?? May be can be a good idea if we can meet in a live chat forum at TradingRoom.com 30 minutes before the new daily bar (00.00 GMT) to prepare altogether the set up for the new day, please let me know your opinion and I'll open a new room "ATP".
  • #139
  • Apr 21, 2008 6:19pm Apr 21, 2008 6:19pm
Hi TF, and everybody,

Thanks for support my idea, the Room it's ready, under Community Trading Rooms, obviously the name is ATP - The evolution to greatness.

Damon, I really hope that you agree with this idea.
  • #140
  • Apr 21, 2008 6:27pm Apr 21, 2008 6:27pm
Quoting Bull
Hi TF, and everybody,

Thanks for support my idea, the Room it's ready, under Community Trading Rooms, obviously the name is ATP - The evolution to greatness.

Damon, I really hope that you agree with this idea.
I agree it is a good idea, I have a few quick minutes before running out for pizza I will try to log in
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
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