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  • #21
  • Apr 13, 2008 1:35am Apr 13, 2008 1:35am
Quoting smjones
This is a facinating approach. I am very interested in what you are saying here. I am not a mod anymore, but let me see if I can get it moved back to the journal section. I will be happy to delete this post after you have read it. Thanks for the bright star on a lately dark night.

Scott
Thanks for your comment and thanks for the move back.

I would much prefer someone to post and tell me they think I'm a fruit cake than sit here wondering if I'm talking to myself.

I have an open mind, if someone showed me something new 2 years ago I would have been all over them like a rash, asking questions.

My problem is FF has been home for 2 years but I've been sleeping on the Porch, looking thru the windows every day. Nobody knows me. Who would I talk to with a system like this?

"Hey Scott, Cables 4 hr Momentum looks like it's it's putting pressure on the Axis, One hours in a negative rotation, and the fifteens PP3 looks strong, you know the first 5M of the first fifteen is always the best wave, but Direction looks weak, wish it had a better angle."

See what I mean.......................I still miss Felix.

Roy
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  • #22
  • Edited 7:19am Apr 13, 2008 7:00am | Edited 7:19am
Quoting 30XTCi
Thanks for your comment and thanks for the move back.

I would much prefer someone to post and tell me they think I'm a fruit cake than sit here wondering if I'm talking to myself.

I have an open mind, if someone showed me something new 2 years ago I would have been all over them like a rash, asking questions.

My problem is FF has been home for 2 years but I've been sleeping on the Porch, looking thru the windows every day. Nobody knows me. Who would I talk to with a system like this?

"Hey Scott, Cables 4 hr Momentum looks like it's it's putting pressure on the Axis, One hours in a negative rotation, and the fifteens PP3 looks strong, you know the first 5M of the first fifteen is always the best wave, but Direction looks weak, wish it had a better angle."

See what I mean.......................I still miss Felix.

Roy
We can thank Twee for the move back. I only aksed him. He really is a resonable person and is always trying to make the community a better place. I know first hand how hard his job is...

Even if you were as you say a Fruit Cake, that does not change the value of the information. Besides, I am that rare one in a million who likes fruit cake. Must have come with age... LOL

What I like about this is the idea of sine type waves in market behavior. I have always placed a strong value in the cyclicity of natural and human systems.

And Oh yeah Felix got hit by a car. I told him to stop chasing mice into the street.

I am thinking about your statement about cable. This approach is new to me. I'll get back to you on it. I am going to go look more closely.
  • #23
  • Edited 11:13am Apr 13, 2008 10:00am | Edited 11:13am
Ok I have had some time to look at cable in light of your concepts here and have some observations.

I have noticed that when PP1 and PP2 are present PP3 is inevitable.

If you take the time distance of PP1 and previous PP1 and devide it by 2 you come up with a probable peak or trough for a future date.

After determining an entry point based on PP2 and PP3 and the strength of PP4 and in alignment with pp5 and pp6, one can use the std devs of BB to look for short term exits or choose to ride the trade based on Longer term momentum.

I think I'll stop here unless you give me the ok to talk more about my thoughts on this, as this is your journal and not mine. And as always, if you would like me to delete this post and not cluter up your thread, just let me know. I understand completely.

Here is my first attempt at developing this further. Still need some work, but I am beginning to understand what you are saying here.
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  • #24
  • Apr 13, 2008 10:49am Apr 13, 2008 10:49am
thanks for share your ideas 30XTCi.

I makes remenber when i used to play with Relative Momentum Index on Metastock searching partterns. I abandoned it because i was felling it was not the "correct" way of trading.

trying to mimics your lines now with metatrader i see Stochastic Momentum Index has an similar behavior. I am attaching a pic.

thanks again i will reading if you decide to share more.

sorry, my english is not so good.
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  • #25
  • Apr 13, 2008 11:37am Apr 13, 2008 11:37am
Quoting smjones
Ok I have had some time to look at cable in light of your concepts here and have some observations.

I have noticed that when PP1 and PP2 are present PP3 is inevitable.

If you take the time distance of PP1 and previous PP1 and devide it by 2 you come up with a probable peak or trough for a future date.

After determining an entry point based on PP2 and PP3 and the strength of PP4 and in alignment with pp5 and pp6, one can use the std devs of BB to look for short term exits or choose to ride the trade based on Longer term momentum.

I think I'll stop here unless you give me the ok to talk more about my thoughts on this, as this is your journal and not mine. And as always, if you would like me to delete this post and not cluter up your thread, just let me know. I understand completely.

Here is my first attempt at developing this further. Still need some work, but I am beginning to understand what you are saying here.
smjones
That is awesome, good job. If you can line up when price crosses the Axis with price on the chart going thru a 50 LWMA you will find it more accurate.
PP1+PP2+PP3=Bank guarantee on Middle BB
Roy
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  • #26
  • Apr 13, 2008 12:03pm Apr 13, 2008 12:03pm
I must say, i really like what i see here. Very interesting idea and approach.
  • #27
  • Apr 13, 2008 12:09pm Apr 13, 2008 12:09pm
Quoting giraia_br
thanks for share your ideas 30XTCi.

I makes remenber when i used to play with Relative Momentum Index on Metastock searching partterns. I abandoned it because i was felling it was not the "correct" way of trading.

trying to mimics your lines now with metatrader i see Stochastic Momentum Index has an similar behavior. I am attaching a pic.

thanks again i will reading if you decide to share more.

sorry, my english is not so good.
giraia_br, I understand you perfectly, maybe you could use the 3D Osilator and play around with the setting, you never know until you try.
keep searching

Roy
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  • #28
  • Apr 13, 2008 1:39pm Apr 13, 2008 1:39pm
This thread is starting to take off, I'm glad. I just wish I could contribute something to this discussion. This kind of stuff is kind of over my head at the moment...but I'll try my best to follow along hehe.
  • #29
  • Apr 14, 2008 12:37am Apr 14, 2008 12:37am
Quoting 24HourTrader
This thread is starting to take off, I'm glad. I just wish I could contribute something to this discussion. This kind of stuff is kind of over my head at the moment...but I'll try my best to follow along hehe.
Hang in there buddy, it takes time.

To all

If you have followed so far, you may remember this,

" If the trajectories are far apart, what you get is a big candle."

Unfortunately these two trajectories are both expired, may they Rest in Peace, I marked their grave with a cross.


melphos, thanks, I always enjoy your posts.

Roy
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  • #30
  • Apr 14, 2008 8:16pm Apr 14, 2008 8:16pm
GBPUSD
Current TJ
Month Neg
Week Pos (2nd wave)
Day Neg
4Hr Neg
1hr Neg
Reason for this trade.4Hr Bodyguard,1 hr positive terminated.
Entry. 1.9874
Stop Not required
Target 30 m PP1
Trade closed 1.9722
Comments. Target hit,wave 1 complete.Re-enter this 4hr on next Neg 30m rotation.End
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  • #31
  • Apr 15, 2008 1:00pm Apr 15, 2008 1:00pm
Quoting 30XTCi
GBPUSD
Current TJ
Month Neg
Week Pos (2nd wave)
Day Neg
4Hr Neg
1hr Neg
Reason for this trade.4Hr Bodyguard,1 hr positive terminated.
Entry. 1.9874
Stop Not required
Target 30 m PP1
Trade closed 1.9722
Comments. Target hit,wave 1 complete.Re-enter this 4hr on next Neg 30m rotation.End

Good stuff!
  • #32
  • Apr 15, 2008 1:32pm Apr 15, 2008 1:32pm
Quoting 30XTCi
GBPUSD
Current TJ
Month Neg
Week Pos (2nd wave)
Day Neg
4Hr Neg
1hr Neg
Reason for this trade.4Hr Bodyguard,1 hr positive terminated.
Entry. 1.9874
Stop Not required
Target 30 m PP1
Trade closed 1.9722
Comments. Target hit,wave 1 complete.Re-enter this 4hr on next Neg 30m rotation.End
I thought I would just quickly say I am still very interested in this, I am just trying to digest what you are saying here, so no sense asking a question until I can ask an informed one... Please keep posting

thanks scott
  • #33
  • Apr 15, 2008 1:41pm Apr 15, 2008 1:41pm
Guys can anyone post 3D oscillator indi here as i dont have it on my mt4. thanks in advance.
  • #34
  • Apr 15, 2008 1:58pm Apr 15, 2008 1:58pm
Quoting kenneith
Guys can anyone post 3D oscillator indi here as i dont have it on my mt4. thanks in advance.
look back thru the thread for it, it is there.
  • #35
  • Apr 15, 2008 2:21pm Apr 15, 2008 2:21pm
thanks buddy. i see only 2sine waves instead of 3 is it 28LWMA (3rd one), if it is could you help me how to put it there? thanks a lot for your help.
Quoting smjones
look back thru the thread for it, it is there.
  • #36
  • Apr 15, 2008 2:24pm Apr 15, 2008 2:24pm
Quoting kenneith
thanks buddy. i see only 2sine waves instead of 3 is it 28LWMA (3rd one), if it is could you help me how to put it there? thanks a lot for your help.
How to do that is also in the thread. Yes it is a 28 of the indicator. You drag the Moving average from the navigator onto the 3d oc. and then select apply to previous indicator.
  • #37
  • Apr 15, 2008 2:28pm Apr 15, 2008 2:28pm
thank you very much, i was not doing the last part.
regards
Quoting smjones
How to do that is also in the thread. Yes it is a 28 of the indicator. You drag the Moving average from the navigator onto the 3d oc. and then select apply to previous indicator.
  • #38
  • Edited Apr 16, 2008 8:47pm Apr 15, 2008 10:16pm | Edited Apr 16, 2008 8:47pm
Quoting smjones
I thought I would just quickly say I am still very interested in this, I am just trying to digest what you are saying here, so no sense asking a question until I can ask an informed one... Please keep posting

thanks scott
smjones, I understand that what I'm doing here is not mainstream, because it's not the norm, many people would get turned off.

The title of the thread is just like the markets, the riddle inside a mystery wrapped in a puzzle lost in a maze surrounded in fog! For the last 2 years full time I have dedicated myself to being a detective, CSI.
I've been inside the data and torn it apart, tortured it ( and myself) to give up it's secrets. They dont come easy.

As one little part showed itself, it left clues to the next.Think of the movie National Treasure.
We are creatures of deletion.
Just like the markets so are my posts.
I showed everybody a "hole thru the air". Did anybody see it? no. I told you it was dead and buried, finished, and it was safe to go long the Euro.
That diabolical move the Euro made over the week-end, where it gapped down was because price had to terminate that trajectory at a certain price point.Notice price needed extra energy before it could jump from one trajectory to the next.
At 12:04 GMT yesterday, you could have taken every dollar in your trading account and gone short on Cable. In Metatrader I have 9 timeframes.At 12;04 All of them were short, 9 red lights. It was impossible for price to go up. That's why I chose the term "Not required" for the stop.
I am glad you posted, I am curious to know how that indicator is.
Please, Please, ask questions.
GL+GT

Roy
Polishing my crystal ball
  • #39
  • Edited 7:26am Apr 16, 2008 6:38am | Edited 7:26am
So much to keep track of. Ok I will draw out those trajectories. I am a little preoccupied with this indicator and trying to match yours. I did not pay enough attention to the trajectories. Now I think I see what your statement Holes thru the air means . I am rereading the novel now it just takes some time for me. but then it is also all about time isn't it.

I feel like a bit of a fool for slacking on the trajecortries, as that is the major part of what you are saying, if I understand correctly

So one question at least, We are looking for confluences of timeframes and trajectories for where price has to meet up, is that correct? That makes sense as I draw these out and see where the gap met them. I think a light bulb in what I like to call my mind just came on... LOL

Also, when is a trajectory teminated or canceled out?
  • #40
  • Apr 16, 2008 10:56pm Apr 16, 2008 10:56pm
Quoting smjones
So much to keep track of. Ok I will draw out those trajectories. I am a little preoccupied with this indicator and trying to match yours. I did not pay enough attention to the trajectories. Now I think I see what your statement Holes thru the air means . I am rereading the novel now it just takes some time for me. but then it is also all about time isn't it.

I feel like a bit of a fool for slacking on the trajecortries, as that is the major part of what you are saying, if I understand correctly

So one question at least, We are looking for confluences of timeframes and trajectories for where price has to meet up, is that correct? That makes sense as I draw these out and see where the gap met them. I think a light bulb in what I like to call my mind just came on... LOL

Also, when is a trajectory teminated or canceled out?
smjones,
1) Yes, they are everything.
2) Correct you are ready for a promotion to detective level 2.
3) When 2 or more have the same "use by date".


Roy
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