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  • #441
  • Mar 29, 2008 12:28pm Mar 29, 2008 12:28pm
Quoting wombau4637
How did your call go?
He'll probably say join for April and get May for free.

ps. I think I might post his number on a porn forum as a sex hotline.
  • #442
  • Mar 29, 2008 12:38pm Mar 29, 2008 12:38pm
Wow, he is right!! I just called him (from UK) and he answered the phone

I think I drove him mad, and he hung up on me.
  • #443
  • Mar 29, 2008 12:40pm Mar 29, 2008 12:40pm
Quoting mazdaz
Wow, he is right!! I just called him (from UK) and he answered the phone

I think I drove him mad, and he hung up on me.
You guys need to grow up.
  • #444
  • Mar 29, 2008 12:45pm Mar 29, 2008 12:45pm
The best time is 3 in the morning, with the bambirs,lol
Learn something difficult and earn real money for ever, a lot.
  • #445
  • Mar 29, 2008 12:51pm Mar 29, 2008 12:51pm
Quoting mazdaz
Wow, he is right!! I just called him (from UK) and he answered the phone

I think I drove him mad, and he hung up on me.
lol
  • #446
  • Mar 29, 2008 12:53pm Mar 29, 2008 12:53pm
Quoting wombau4637
You guys need to grow up.
so does jason. y dont u call and tell him
  • #447
  • Mar 29, 2008 1:05pm Mar 29, 2008 1:05pm
I vote this thread as the best entertainment thread of ff,lol

I dont suppose you will go all in a phone booth to call jason's home.Dont you dare,lol
Learn something difficult and earn real money for ever, a lot.
  • #448
  • Mar 29, 2008 1:20pm Mar 29, 2008 1:20pm
I have been reading this thread. I gotta tell ya. I am appauled at this scam company. However, how do you know you have the correct info and that you are calling the right person?. I have some rope, why don't you have your selves a good old fashioned lynching. Who the hell cares if you have the right person or if due process has been served. Hell who needs laws when there is vigilante work to be done...

LOL good gravey, where's my hangin rope?
  • #449
  • Mar 29, 2008 1:23pm Mar 29, 2008 1:23pm
what a wild ride this has been guys
TRIALS THAT SHAKE SOME, CONFIRM OTHERS!
  • #450
  • Mar 29, 2008 1:25pm Mar 29, 2008 1:25pm
i will say thiss. To all looking for a quick way to earn money at this fx career plz learn how to trade and only use signal services to enhance your trading. learn how to trade and you wont have to "watch charts", you can make your own calls
TRIALS THAT SHAKE SOME, CONFIRM OTHERS!
  • #451
  • Mar 29, 2008 2:01pm Mar 29, 2008 2:01pm
Quoting smjones
I have been reading this thread. I gotta tell ya. I am appauled at this scam company. However, how do you know you have the correct info and that you are calling the right person?. I have some rope, why don't you have your selves a good old fashioned lynching. Who the hell cares if you have the right person or if due process has been served. Hell who needs laws when there is vigilante work to be done...

LOL good gravey, where's my hangin rope?

We DO KNOW we have "acorrect info" mate. It appears on our PayPal receipt. That's where our money went to. Don't we as PAYING CUSTOMERS have a right to cotact the business we are supportoning with our hard earned money? Pleas edo answer my friend.
  • #452
  • Edited 2:55pm Mar 29, 2008 2:41pm | Edited 2:55pm
Quoting Carpe_Pipem
Before he shut the room down, he threatened to "...SLASH ALL YOUR TIRES -- AND I REALLY MEAN IT!!!" .
Make sure you record and screenshot any threats of physical violence or intimidation from Jason, it will be extremely useful when presenting additional evidence surrounding his fraudulent activities. The mere act of intimating violence against his subscriber base could land him in a huge amount of trouble.

Further, if Jason is foolish enough to carry through on his threats then a long period of jail time is absolutely guaranteed, he would be detained in a matter of hours and sent for a comprehensive psychiatric evaluation.

Don't be cowed by threats from a pathetic bully, this might have worked in the past when Jason was scamming a handful of people, unfortunately he has now bitten off more than he can chew by scamming 500 people.
  • #453
  • Mar 29, 2008 3:47pm Mar 29, 2008 3:47pm
if u r stil in here turn1to100 i am waiting on your call
TRIALS THAT SHAKE SOME, CONFIRM OTHERS!
  • #454
  • Mar 29, 2008 4:40pm Mar 29, 2008 4:40pm
Quoting lazytrader
We DO KNOW we have "acorrect info" mate. It appears on our PayPal receipt. That's where our money went to. Don't we as PAYING CUSTOMERS have a right to cotact the business we are supportoning with our hard earned money? Pleas edo answer my friend.
Do you honestly believe that harassment helps your legal cause? I stand by my statement. This kind of thing does not help your cause at all. In fact it hurts. I find it amazing that you would even make this statement. It is not a question of your paying customer business rights. It is that 2 wrongs do not make a right. In fact this type of behavior only hurts your legal standing.

I don't have anything more to say here, because reason seems to be be left behind. I agree that this is a scam. I do not agree that stooping this level is justified or helpful.

I hope you all prevail. You deserve to be refunded, but this sort of thing will not help. In the process of attempting to win your case, don't give the opposition the amunition for you to shoot yourself in the foot.
  • #455
  • Mar 29, 2008 4:59pm Mar 29, 2008 4:59pm
Quoting smjones
Do you honestly believe that harassment helps your legal cause? I stand by my statement. This kind of thing does not help your cause at all. In fact it hurts. I find it amazing that you would even make this statement. It is not a question of your paying customer business rights. It is that 2 wrongs do not make a right. In fact this type of behavior only hurts your legal standing.

I don't have anything more to say here, because reason seems to be be left behind. I agree that this is a scam. I do not agree that stooping this level is justified or helpful.

I hope you all prevail. You deserve to be refunded, but this sort of thing will not help. In the process of attempting to win your case, don't give the opposition the amunition for you to shoot yourself in the foot.

I do appreciate your answer but don't know what you mean by "harassment". It is Jason he is making threats not me. I just pointed out that the phone number appears on the receipt and it is perfectly legitimate for a customer to contact a vendor if s/he is having problems with the product/service. Appreciate your sympathy for the victims as well.
  • #456
  • Mar 29, 2008 5:09pm Mar 29, 2008 5:09pm
Quoting lazytrader
I do appreciate your answer but don't know what you mean by "harassment". It is Jason he is making threats not me. I just pointed out that the phone number appears on the receipt and it is perfectly legitimate for a customer to contact a vendor if s/he is having problems with the product/service. Appreciate your sympathy for the victims as well.
Yes I do see your point, however, I am referring to calling this person's phone number at 3:00 am as was suggested and continuously arguing with this person. This is what laws are for. In most parts of the USA this type of behavior is considered disturbing the peace and is a form of illegal harassment. I understand the anger and frustration everyone feels, but don't blow your chances for legal action by doing this sort of thing.

I think it would be wiser to send registered mail to this individual so you had proof of actually demanding a return of funds. If he refuses to accept the mail, you have proof it was attempted to be delivered. Then you a set of steps to follow as recourse, including legal action or even individual small claims actions with the power of attachment of property.
  • #457
  • Mar 29, 2008 5:16pm Mar 29, 2008 5:16pm
Quoting Carpe_Pipem
Notwithstanding all the comments to the contrary, I don't think that Jason nor especially the other mods intended for this to be a scam. But, it's definitely turned out to be a big mess and the least Jason should do is refund everyone's money.

But, he does have considerable legal liability and I don't mean monetarily. Before he shut the room down, he threatened to "...SLASH ALL YOUR TIRES -- AND I REALLY MEAN IT!!!" if we didn't stop chatting in the room. Remember, he has our contact information and he lives close enough to some (me included) to actually find us and do it. We've all seen his temper and irrational behavior displayed in the room. No telling what he's capable of. This threat is an assault and it's illegal and he could/should be arrested for it.
I don't think it's us who should be worried
  • #458
  • Mar 29, 2008 5:19pm Mar 29, 2008 5:19pm
Quoting smjones
Yes I do see your point, however, I am referring to calling this person's phone number at 3:00 am as was suggested and continuously arguing with this person. This is what laws are for. In most parts of the USA this type of behavior is considered disturbing the peace and is a form of illegal harassment. I understand the anger and frustration everyone feels, but don't blow your chances for legal action by doing this sort of thing.

I think it would be wiser to send registered mail to this individual so you had proof of actually demanding a return of funds. If he refuses to accept the mail, you have proof it was attempted to be delivered. Then you a set of steps to follow as recourse, including legal action or even individual small claims actions with the power of attachment of property.

You're right about 3:00am (3:00pm should be fine though) calls and yours is a very sound advice. Thanks.
  • #459
  • Mar 29, 2008 5:19pm Mar 29, 2008 5:19pm
Sorry to disagree with ya smjones EDITED: Correction....seems that smjones and I are on the same page

Anyone that hasn't received what they perceived as what they bought has the legal right to contact the seller. Even if it's as simple as asking a question. They also have the legal right to ask for a refund without it being considered harassment. However, it could be considered harassment if someone continuously called the seller at all hours of the night (tormenting, harassing). The seller could also immediately refund all that requested it (since this was a scam and since most signed up based on the sales messages and pitches of another trader making calls. That trader was immediately terminated from the business once the paid room started.).


With that being said though...there's no doubt this is a scam. There's also no doubt that legal proceedings have begun.


--- I'm not an attorney and this isn't legal advice

I'm also not one that was scammed. Good luck to all. Hope you get your money back.
  • #460
  • Mar 29, 2008 5:21pm Mar 29, 2008 5:21pm
Quoting lazytrader
You're right about 3:00am (3:00pm should be fine though) calls and yours is a very sound advice. Thanks.
Hey you don't need to apologize to me. I did not see anything wrong with your statements. In fact for the most part I agree with your cause. I hope you are reimbursed.

When I was a mod here at FF we delt with a lot of these asshole scams, so I have alot of empathy for the victims.

I know it is not even so much a question of the money, all though that hurts. But it is the violation of trust and the sense of being purposefully deceived and the intent to prevent anyone else from falling victim to this.
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