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  • #381
  • Mar 28, 2008 3:36pm Mar 28, 2008 3:36pm
Quoting sniped
Err... I believe many signed up for Kinn, not some experimental demo'ing merry-go-round
EXACTLY
  • #382
  • Mar 28, 2008 3:37pm Mar 28, 2008 3:37pm
Quoting learningtheropes
I think Dirty Gringo is Jason's Dad.....
IT WOULD MAKE SENSE!
  • #383
  • Mar 28, 2008 3:45pm Mar 28, 2008 3:45pm
Well I am sure many people here signed up annually and are out $3300 not $325 and those customers deserve a truthful, straight answer and a refund of the remaining months services. So if anyone has any factually insight to exactly what has and is happening then put it forward.
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  • #384
  • Mar 28, 2008 3:52pm Mar 28, 2008 3:52pm
Quoting jamesr24
Well I am sure many people here signed up annually and are out $3300 not $325 and those customers deserve a truthful, straight answer and a refund of the remaining months services. So if anyone has any factually insight to exactly what has and is happening then put it forward.

Factually.........many, if not all that signed up signed up based on Kinn making live trade calls. Jason even pimped PS in the most read thread here on FF mentioning Kinn's name and that he'll be making trade calls. That alone is reason for a refund! Remember Jason is the one that terminated the relationship with Kinn, not Kinn terminating the relationship with Jason!
  • #385
  • Mar 28, 2008 4:04pm Mar 28, 2008 4:04pm
Quoting jamesr24
Well I am sure many people here signed up annually and are out $3300 not $325 and those customers deserve a truthful, straight answer and a refund of the remaining months services. So if anyone has any factually insight to exactly what has and is happening then put it forward.
Dirty Gringo would say, take the $3300 loss like a man and move on. This is forex.....

What a Dirty Gringo...
  • #386
  • Mar 28, 2008 4:09pm Mar 28, 2008 4:09pm
We have all witnessed the train wreck. That is not my point or question. We all have heard jason and Kinns side of the story but does anyone have any factual knowledge of what exactly transpired. Was this whole thing scripted from the begining or was it a good business idea that started off strong with great calls only to find it go wrong because personalities clashed or greed got in the way and the calls stopped being positive. What hard facts can be used to get the Attorney General to step in and force refunds. Is there anyone out there that knows first hand the situation and can help us get our money back?
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  • #387
  • Mar 28, 2008 4:15pm Mar 28, 2008 4:15pm
Quoting jamesr24
We have all witnessed the train wreck. That is not my point or question. We all have heard jason and Kinns side of the story but does anyone have any factual knowledge of what exactly transpired. Was this whole thing scripted from the begining or was it a good business idea that started off strong with great calls only to find it go wrong because personalities clashed or greed got in the way and the calls stopped being positive. What hard facts can be used to get the Attorney General to step in and force refunds. Is there anyone out there that knows first hand the situation and can help us get our money back?

I just read thru the first 3 pages of posts and there are lots of people who know of Jason from previous scams. They have also posted links to other sites where additional scams are talked about. This should get you started. Also, there are many willing to join in class action and also recommending that everyone get in touch with Paypal as Paypal will help if enough people complain.
Trade what you see, not what you think.
  • #388
  • Mar 28, 2008 4:19pm Mar 28, 2008 4:19pm
And I concur with most of Dirty Gringos post but unfortunately there is a group here that paid annually and to those a refund of the undelivered services is in order. At this point they do not seem to want to do that, so we need to take all legal actions against them to recoup the monies and if this ends up being a scam on some level, then we need to prevent them from taking the next group of victims. That is all. So again any factual help is welcomed
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  • #389
  • Mar 28, 2008 4:50pm Mar 28, 2008 4:50pm
Quoting jamesr24
And I concur with most of Dirty Gringos post but unfortunately there is a group here that paid annually and to those a refund of the undelivered services is in order. At this point they do not seem to want to do that, so we need to take all legal actions against them to recoup the monies and if this ends up being a scam on some level, then we need to prevent them from taking the next group of victims. That is all. So again any factual help is welcomed
Hey James, as someone that didn't lose anything on this, it's easy to be a wise guy, yet sympathetic at the same time. So, sorry for not being overly helpful, but it's hard to believe that the authorities could not put the pieces of this cluster together rather easily. Besides opinions, it is hard to say with total conviction whether Jason scripted this from day 1 as fraud, but there's too many parallels that say it probably was and he has done NOTHING to lessen that likelihood.....so, again, it's easy to bash the guy for sport, and in support of those suffering.

It seems as simple as a consumer paying for something, and the job/service never being complete. The damning part is the banning with no explanation, yet the deliberate effort to refuse contact regarding refunds, even on a prorated basis. This is no different than paying for work by a home contractor up front. The guy rips your attic apart and never comes back to finish your addition. It is obvious breach of contract, and I'm sure in NC this at least has civil consequences. This could go class action, or people would have to take him to small claims individually within his jurisdiction. I think it would be automatic judgment city for any Judge to decree!!

My only question to anyone that signed the waiver? Did it say you could be banned, without refund for certain violations while in the chat room? That may be his only defense if so....
  • #390
  • Mar 28, 2008 5:01pm Mar 28, 2008 5:01pm
I agree with you. I do not need to hear any more bashing, like everyone, I have witnessed it all first hand but if anyone has any hard facts that has not been discussed please contact me privately...
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  • #391
  • Mar 28, 2008 6:01pm Mar 28, 2008 6:01pm
Quoting timewilltell
no no you got it all wrong. remem ber he will work with the yearly subscribers one on one and train them professionally on how to watch charts. you guysw r just too hard on jason, i mean he did get bitten by a spider. wait a minute.....do spiders bite snakes?
  • #392
  • Mar 28, 2008 6:11pm Mar 28, 2008 6:11pm
Wow, pages on this thread jumped up overnight !! Haha. Wonder how many that just posted here are those that cheering Jason when he kicked someone out ??!! Guess those that complained receiving emails from Kinn, are now in Kinn's room following calls, shame on you !!! Anyway this is my last post on PS, is over for me and I move on. Actually, I stop taking PS calls 2 weeks ago when Kinn left, was in the room following the drama quietly and blasting out here.
Lastly, for those that still trying to figure out which side of story to believe ( I chose my side 2 wks ago ), think of it this way, after all this drama, who is the one that makes the efforts to make it up to members for March lost, and who is the one that still trying hard to make more money out of members ??

Happy trading !!
  • #393
  • Mar 28, 2008 6:17pm Mar 28, 2008 6:17pm
Quoting timewilltell
Tell your side then Jane, why leave it out. To us you were just as much involved in this scam as Jason. Plz tell me I am wrong and explain or you are going to be considered just like Jason only nicer.
I can attest that jane was not part of this scam( nor was jen). i have talked to her recently and she had some serious concerns and felt it best that she not be associated with him.
  • #394
  • Mar 28, 2008 6:19pm Mar 28, 2008 6:19pm
Quoting sniped
It's a shame you got caught up in such a scam Jane, Jason has exploited and used many people over the years, you weren't the first and you wont be the last.

A word of advice, do yourself a favor, whatever you made out of PS I suggest you go and write a check to some local charitable cause, then maybe some good will actually come out of Jason's latest train wreck.
The real question will Jason pay her for march?
  • #395
  • Mar 28, 2008 6:24pm Mar 28, 2008 6:24pm
Quoting doughboi
Jane Is Just As Evil And Moneygrubbing As Jason Was, She Decided That She Rode The Train Long Enough And Jumped Off Before Her Name Was Ruined. .....she Knew What Was Going On.
Trust me, Jane was duped like the rest of us. I won't say more, it's not my place but it wasn't a gravy train. I have been trying to get her to quit this room for a short while, when she started to question things. The main thing that kept her there were the members and helping them, something she really enjoys doing. But there was only so much she could tolerate and thus decided that it was best for her to part ways with this room
  • #396
  • Mar 28, 2008 6:53pm Mar 28, 2008 6:53pm
Stay tuned for more and more drama...I enjoy this thread more than the ps room when it was profitable. Maybe we will have THE RETURN OF PS DRAMA in another room????
  • #397
  • Mar 28, 2008 7:00pm Mar 28, 2008 7:00pm
Quoting pipette4x
Trust me, Jane was duped like the rest of us. I won't say more, it's not my place but it wasn't a gravy train. I have been trying to get her to quit this room for a short while, when she started to question things. The main thing that kept her there were the members and helping them, something she really enjoys doing. But there was only so much she could tolerate and thus decided that it was best for her to part ways with this room
Come on, She was there supporting Jason 100% in the conference right after Kinn departure, together with other mods and tech supports. They all pointing their fingers to Kinn. Now that the situation is out of control, she want to turn around and plays good guy?? Her name is ruined anyway. Without all their support to Jason, the truth would have been told much earlier. Instead, they tried to convince members to continue the subs. Now that they have collected renewals for April ( if there is any ), is time to wrap up this scam, lets everything falls apart and they are on their way to luxury cruise holiday.
oop !! thought not posting on PS anymore !! out of here
  • #398
  • Mar 28, 2008 8:04pm Mar 28, 2008 8:04pm
They closed the room - what happend this time?? Were more huge losses made but not shown on their P&L page?
  • #399
  • Mar 28, 2008 8:11pm Mar 28, 2008 8:11pm
Quoting TradeLaw
They closed the room - what happend this time?? Were more huge losses made but not shown on their P&L page?
Basically Jen and Jane quit today so that got the room going with questions, so rather than address anything or let people voice their concerns moving forward, Jason closed the room. I guess he needs time to come up with some response that people will buy into.
  • #400
  • Mar 28, 2008 8:39pm Mar 28, 2008 8:39pm
Jason close the room to go have dinner massage cinema all this kind of stuff I mean this guy works hard on looking at the charts he deserve to enjoy the life sometimes.. burn in hell bastard!!!!
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