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  • #321
  • Mar 17, 2008 8:19pm Mar 17, 2008 8:19pm
Quoting tman378
Damon,

Thank you for another crystal clear explanation. So, if I understand correctly, 1DCT or 1UCT will be deleted if not triggered the same day they are set. However, once triggered, they'll remain open until an exit signal occurs. Is this correct?

Also, please see below EUR/AUD chart from today. Looks like an AO Continuation trade should have been placed two bars back (first yellow vertical line). And then we had an AC Continuation trade yesterday (second yellow vertical line), so another long trade should have been placed here, right? And also today we should have placed a DPTT trade, making it a total of two pending orders opened today. Am I getting this right?

Thank you.

Tony
100% crystal clear
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #322
  • Mar 17, 2008 8:45pm Mar 17, 2008 8:45pm
Not cool. I just noticed that the platform will download the Sunday bar back into the History Center everyday if deleted.

TimeFreedom

Quoting TimeFreedom
@ Damon;

I just tried something really cool, which was to remove the weekend bar from the history center (Tools\History Center). This works well and we only have to do this once a week. What do you think?

Directions to Remove Sunday Bar from History Center:

On the Platform Menu:
1. Select Tools ---> History Center (History Center will open up in a separate window)

On the History Center Window:
2. Double-Click the Pair (e.g. EURUSD)
3. Double-Click the Timeframe (e.g. Daily (D1))
4. Select the Sunday Data (2008.03.16 00:00) and Click on the Delete button.
5. Close the History Center window and then change your Chart to a different timeframe (e.g. H4) and then back to D1 timeframe.
All done.


TimeFreedom
  • #323
  • Mar 17, 2008 8:53pm Mar 17, 2008 8:53pm
Quoting TimeFreedom
Not cool. I just noticed that the platform will download the Sunday bar back into the History Center everyday if deleted.

TimeFreedom
That is a bummer indeed. I looked and it is the same with mine.

It is okay, we will still make a profit
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #324
  • Mar 17, 2008 8:56pm Mar 17, 2008 8:56pm
Quoting damonl
Here are my charts for tonight:

Attachment Attachment

As you can see, we really only have 1 trade option for tonight and that is our DPTT long.

Aslo noted is that as of this point any of our longer term trades would keep the same S/L as we have not gotten a signal to move them as of yet.

I hope that you are all enjoying my thread. I have many more trades to share with you, but tonight I am very tired.

In the meantime please continue to get a feel for the system. All is well.
I will step away now. Attached is my spreadsheet for 03/18/08.

I forgot to upload it earlier

Spreadsheet for 03/18/08
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"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #325
  • Mar 17, 2008 9:25pm Mar 17, 2008 9:25pm
@ Bull;

I went through your PDF compilation of Damon rules and noticed that the 1UCT & 1DCT rules were left out? Maybe Damon put out the 1UCT & 1DCT rules after you compiled the PDF rules?

Thanks in advance,

TimeFreedom

Quoting Bull
Hi TF,

Sorry for the delay in replay, but I'm out of my city and I'll be back on monday, I'll do that ASAP.
Quoting TimeFreedom
I have one change request for the Trade Manger. Can you please change the Type of Trade column so that I can select the trade type from a drop-down list?

Thanks in advance,

TimeFreedom
  • #326
  • Mar 17, 2008 9:42pm Mar 17, 2008 9:42pm
Quoting TimeFreedom
@ Bull;

I went through your PDF compilation of Damon rules and noticed that the 1UCT & 1DCT rules were left out? Maybe Damon put out the 1UCT & 1DCT rules after you compiled the PDF rules?

Thanks in advance,

TimeFreedom
Hi Bull,

Thank you much for all you've done for us so far. Would you kindly make it so that we have separate columns for order created date and order modified date? This way it is easier to keep track of which orders are new and which orders have been pending or open for several days.

Also, I'm still having problems getting daily status to load data into the dynamic table. When I press on the button, it remains blank. Maybe, does it have to do with how the get-date function deals with the data format in the order modified date column?

Cheers,

Tony
  • #327
  • Edited 10:16pm Mar 17, 2008 9:52pm | Edited 10:16pm
I removed the Sunday bar from the GBPUSD, D1 chart and we have a Trend Reversal Indication and Trend Reversal Confirmation setup (EES1 & EES2) on the same bar.

Maybe I should stop going on about removing the Sunday bar and K.I.S.?

Note: You can read through the Trend Reversal Indication and Trend Reversal Confirmation rules from Bull's PDF on pages 7 - 10 or follow the link here.

TimeFreedom
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  • #328
  • Mar 17, 2008 10:05pm Mar 17, 2008 10:05pm
Once you enter all the trade info scroll down to the bottom of the page and:

1. Click on the 'Main Menu' button which will obviously bring you to the Main Menu
2. Click on 'Daily Status' button which will open a new page
3. Click on another 'Daily Status' button and it will update the spreadsheet with all new updated trade info

TimeFreedom

Quoting tman378
Hi Bull,

Thank you much for all you've done for us so far. Would you kindly make it so that we have separate columns for order created date and order modified date? This way it is easier to keep track of which orders are new and which orders have been pending or open for several days.

Also, I'm still having problems getting daily status to load data into the dynamic table. When I press on the button, it remains blank. Maybe, does it have to do with how the get-date function deals with the data format in the order modified date column?

Cheers,

Tony
  • #329
  • Mar 17, 2008 10:39pm Mar 17, 2008 10:39pm
Quoting TimeFreedom
Once you enter all the trade info scroll down to the bottom of the page and:

1. Click on the 'Main Menu' button which will obviously bring you to the Main Menu
2. Click on 'Daily Status' button which will open a new page
3. Click on another 'Daily Status' button and it will update the spreadsheet with all new updated trade info

TimeFreedom
Thank you TF,

But that is exactly what I've done so many times, and it still would not update the spreadsheet. I think that the get-date function will get today's system date and bring in any input data with the date column matching the system date. Even if I put the correct date in the column, it still would not recognize it and just will not pull the data for some reason. I think someone else was having the same problem as well.

Tony
  • #330
  • Mar 17, 2008 10:43pm Mar 17, 2008 10:43pm
Quoting damonl
I will step away now. Attached is my spreadsheet for 03/18/08.

I forgot to upload it earlier

Spreadsheet for 03/18/08 Attachment
Thank you Damon for making notes in my document. I compared my trades from today against your latest spreadsheet, and I see some of your trades with today's date that I did not open. And I'm just talking about the trade types that we already learned about.

I'm assuming some of these you may have placed prior to today, and just modified them. And that's why they have today's date in the order modified date column? Otherwise, it seems like I overlooked some trades today and my homework was not completely correct?

Cheers,

Tony
  • #331
  • Mar 18, 2008 5:28am Mar 18, 2008 5:28am
Quoting TimeFreedom
I removed the Sunday bar from the GBPUSD, D1 chart and we have a Trend Reversal Indication and Trend Reversal Confirmation setup (EES1 & EES2) on the same bar.

Maybe I should stop going on about removing the Sunday bar and K.I.S.?

Note: You can read through the Trend Reversal Indication and Trend Reversal Confirmation rules from Bull's PDF on pages 7 - 10 or follow the link here.

TimeFreedom
Hey TF. Sometimes this will happen anyway. I will check out that other patlform, but it is hard for me to do so duirng the week.
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #332
  • Mar 18, 2008 5:38am Mar 18, 2008 5:38am
Quoting tman378
Thank you Damon for making notes in my document. I compared my trades from today against your latest spreadsheet, and I see some of your trades with today's date that I did not open. And I'm just talking about the trade types that we already learned about.

I'm assuming some of these you may have placed prior to today, and just modified them. And that's why they have today's date in the order modified date column? Otherwise, it seems like I overlooked some trades today and my homework was not completely correct?

Cheers,

Tony
Hey T....

I really only evaluated the trades that you had down. Not necessarily the trades that you missed. By that time I'm dizzy from looking at charts.

Yes....Most of the orders that were placed today have a "P" in the order status file for pending and many of those trades were placed yesterday. my spreadsheet is a complete taly of all my trades and not necessarily just today's.
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #333
  • Mar 18, 2008 5:41am Mar 18, 2008 5:41am
Quoting dr_who
damonl, d'you know what your trading philosophy should be ? 'I'm getting the hell out of FX cos I'm an idiot and haven't a clue what I'm talking about'
dr-who? I called you out to prove that you knew what you were talking about and this is all you came up with.

Booooo...lamo........boooooo....hisssssss.......

Coward!
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #334
  • Mar 18, 2008 8:13am Mar 18, 2008 8:13am
Quoting dr_who
damonl, d'you know what your trading philosophy should be ? 'I'm getting the hell out of FX cos I'm an idiot and haven't a clue what I'm talking about'
Dear dr. Who, please, in the future, make your remarks more constructive (meaning WHY you write something about WHO or WHAT in regard to current topic).

In anticipation of more argumented and constructive criticism and more fruitful research on the subject of ATP system,

regards

k.
  • #335
  • Mar 18, 2008 11:00am Mar 18, 2008 11:00am
Quoting damonl
dr-who? I called you out to prove that you knew what you were talking about and this is all you came up with.

Booooo...lamo........boooooo....hisssssss.......

Coward!
cool D, it takes all kinds of people to make the world complete
just let us focus on the subject at hand, for all i know this guy must be ur disciple in disguise or else i dont see any purpose for him to be visiting ur thread
what say u??
  • #336
  • Mar 18, 2008 4:08pm Mar 18, 2008 4:08pm
Quoting availdollars
cool D, it takes all kinds of people to make the world complete
just let us focus on the subject at hand, for all i know this guy must be ur disciple in disguise or else i dont see any purpose for him to be visiting ur thread
what say u??
If he is he has a funny way of showing his gratitude. I wish he would just add to the cause or simply stay away.
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #337
  • Mar 18, 2008 5:11pm Mar 18, 2008 5:11pm
Hello and good evening .

I will not be able to place too many trades tonight until after the close of the bar as they are still making new highs and lows for the day. I will do the ones that I can.

Beleve it our not, even with all the change in direction today I am still at about the same account balance and equity balance I was at yesterday evening.

I really need to get you the rules for the PPTT as this will help tremendously. It only has about a 60% win rate at the moment (almost 80% so far this week), but it is so nice when a trend reverses becasue it is there to pick up a lot of slack.

I hope to be able to get this to you soon.

I will be here working on my trades so if anyone wants to chat, asl questions or upload charts...I am ready to go
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #338
  • Mar 18, 2008 6:32pm Mar 18, 2008 6:32pm
Hi Damon and fellow Damonians

Turning in my homework for today. I'm happy that you don't find this bothersome, Damon. Thank you so much.

Right now I'm at the point where I'm trying to nail down the exit strategies and SL management in relation to the different types of exit/reversal signals. I feel that once I understand that part thoroughly this ATP trading method will be like second nature. Any advise you can offer at this juncture is GREATLY appreciated.

Cheers,

Tony
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  • #339
  • Mar 18, 2008 8:16pm Mar 18, 2008 8:16pm
Here is my EU charts for tonight"

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What i am seeing here is a few different things:

1. There is no signal to move our S/L at this point in tim. However, if you are using the Early Exit Strategy, then you would move them to 1 pip below yesteerday's low.

2. We have a Non-Lag Reversal Order to place. This would be placed as a short pening order 1 pip below the low of yesterday's bar.

3. At this time we close all long pending orders (because of the non-lag reversal signal) and start placing our Turn Around Momentum Builder trades. This trade would be a long order placed above the high of Monday's bar.

This is what I am seeing for today

Here is my Spreadsheet update for today:
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"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #340
  • Mar 18, 2008 8:29pm Mar 18, 2008 8:29pm
Hello and Good Evening....

I know that I am behind in updating you with some of the additional trades that I take, but please understand that this is very time consuming.

Recently I made one change that has made understanding ATP much easier. It is the addition of the Turn Around Momentum Builder (TAMB) trade.

Really this is nothing new, but it puts certain trades into a catagory that makes understanding what to do in certain circumstances much easier and also positions us really well for any turn in direction.

I hope to get you the rules for this soon as well.

I think that you will like it
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
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