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  • #141
  • Mar 17, 2008 11:38pm Mar 17, 2008 11:38pm
Quoting tcmm
Big Bill when the stoch is oversold for example and you have a uptrend
going on it shows and confims BUY THE DIPS IN A UP TREND if all others line up too it just there to guide you better Thanks
Look at the EUR/USD right now.
It has everything it needs. The 1H & 15M stochastics are over bought. Is that a no trade?
  • #142
  • Mar 17, 2008 11:40pm Mar 17, 2008 11:40pm
Quoting andante9
I sure wish London open wasn't 2am my time! I have read many places that London open to U.S. Close is the best trading time. If I'm not tucked away in bed - I am off to work early in the morn. I work in the oil patch so I do not have very regular hours. New trading is next to impossible for me because of my varying hours of work and since I work out in the field. I will keep trying to find a way to trade though.
where are you out western canada
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  • #143
  • Mar 17, 2008 11:43pm Mar 17, 2008 11:43pm
Quoting billbss
Look at the EUR/USD right now.
It has everything it needs. The 1H & 15M stochastics are over bought. Is that a no trade?

http://www.forexfactory.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Big Dog Trading Secret Rules
Lets Summarize, Get the direction of the 200ema on the daily chart
It can be uptrend or downtrend this gives you the
true trend. Also have the Stoch 8-3-3 just to check oversold and overbought only
Then on the 1hr and 15 min. Check that the 200ema are
the same direction too.
So lets say that the 200ema on both charts are down.
The 5ema and 8ema have to be crossed down.
Then the MACD on one chart is crossed down
You then wait when the MACD on the other chart crosses
over.
Once that happens you are good to trade.
Check also if there's MACD DIVERGENCE TO PRICE
very powerful if there is. Go to google check it out
how it works.
Also be careful during News releases don't trade.
I am a News Trader also, so I know.
You can pickup 15,20,25 pips depends on you
Good to do during 2am to 11am market time.
This method the trade comes to you.
You can also see with this method that while you are
waiting for this method to happen you can see how
it wipesaw before it happens.
BUY THE DIPS IN A UPTREND AND SELLTHE RALLIES IN A DOWNTREND

POST #59 SHOWS CHART SAMPLE


check out these rules carefully Bill
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  • #144
  • Mar 17, 2008 11:48pm Mar 17, 2008 11:48pm
Quoting tcmm
http://www.forexfactory.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Big Dog Trading Secret Rules
Lets Summarize, Get the direction of the 200ema on the daily chart
It can be uptrend or downtrend this gives you the
true trend. Also have the Stoch 8-3-3 just to check oversold and overbought only
Then on the 1hr and 15 min. Check that the 200ema are
the same direction too.
So lets say that the 200ema on both charts are down.
The 5ema and 8ema have to be crossed down.
Then the MACD on one chart is crossed down
You then wait when the MACD on the other chart crosses
over.
Once that happens you are good to trade.
Check also if there's MACD DIVERGENCE TO PRICE
very powerful if there is. Go to google check it out
how it works.
Also be careful during News releases don't trade.
I am a News Trader also, so I know.
You can pickup 15,20,25 pips depends on you
Good to do during 2am to 11am market time.
This method the trade comes to you.
You can also see with this method that while you are
waiting for this method to happen you can see how
it wipesaw before it happens.
BUY THE DIPS IN A UPTREND AND SELLTHE RALLIES IN A DOWNTREND

POST #59 SHOWS CHART SAMPLE


check out these rules carefully Bill
Those rules do not answer the question I asked.
I have read the rules. What are you trying to say?
  • #145
  • Mar 17, 2008 11:50pm Mar 17, 2008 11:50pm
Quoting tcmm
where are you out western canada
Yep
  • #146
  • Mar 17, 2008 11:56pm Mar 17, 2008 11:56pm
Quoting billbss
Look at the EUR/USD right now.
It has everything it needs. The 1H & 15M stochastics are over bought. Is that a no trade?
I think your right to stand aside with overbought stoch, I would think that we should wait until the stoch lines up too.
  • #147
  • Mar 18, 2008 12:11am Mar 18, 2008 12:11am
Quoting andante9
I think your right to stand aside with overbought stoch, I would think that we should wait until the stoch lines up too.
That being said, I have seen a lot of charts where the the stoch stays OS or OB for a continued length of time while the price action continues to rise or fall as it was. So I guess I dunno for sure. I find the original rules to kind of lead one to think that the stoc is checked in the daily chart - then one looks for the other signals to line up in 15m and 1h. Not sure myself - still experimenting with this system.
  • #148
  • Mar 18, 2008 12:12am Mar 18, 2008 12:12am
Quoting billbss
Those rules do not answer the question I asked.
I have read the rules. What are you trying to say?
if you look at the eu/us now first of all is not the time to trade til london
open
then if you look at eu 15in the emas are turning down .
macd in the 1hr is just starting to cross up but in the 15min the macd is turning down which its showing pullback not to enter
it prevents going in every thing needs to line up in both charts
both stoch are showing over bought but the price in the 15 min is only
showing to sell not the 1hr you wait till the15min all goes the same as 1hr
which might be after london open your 200ema is showing up trend too in both and daily
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  • #149
  • Mar 18, 2008 4:10am Mar 18, 2008 4:10am
thanks hanover for post 49 BRILLIANT your a brain its the only valuable information on this thread
i find a big dog who write on another forum is name is Tess its a woman try to find its interesting.
  • #150
  • Mar 18, 2008 4:34am Mar 18, 2008 4:34am
Quoting free84
thanks hanover for post 49 BRILLIANT your a brain its the only valuable information on this thread
i find a big dog who write on another forum is name is Tess its a woman try to find its interesting.
ANOTHER ONE THAT DOESN'T KNOW READ IT ALL! and THINK
NOTHING ON YOUR PROFILE?
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  • #151
  • Mar 18, 2008 5:18am Mar 18, 2008 5:18am
Thanks tcmm for 25 pips on eu
  • #152
  • Mar 18, 2008 5:20am Mar 18, 2008 5:20am
Im Still New.........
Your Stategies Lo0ks Cool.....
Can You Give Me The Templates And Its Indicator?(dont Want To Set Myself)
What Is The Best Pair To Use This Strategies?
  • #153
  • Mar 18, 2008 5:25am Mar 18, 2008 5:25am
Quoting B@by trader
Im Still New.........
Your Stategies Lo0ks Cool.....
Can You Give Me The Templates And Its Indicator?(dont Want To Set Myself)
What Is The Best Pair To Use This Strategies?
anything else? a beer? 1000$ ?
  • #154
  • Mar 18, 2008 5:51am Mar 18, 2008 5:51am
i can send template with a cristal ball in gift pm me(all big dog i know have a cristal ball)
  • #155
  • Mar 18, 2008 5:52am Mar 18, 2008 5:52am
Quoting tcmm
if you look at the eu/us now first of all is not the time to trade til london
open
then if you look at eu 15in the emas are turning down .
macd in the 1hr is just starting to cross up but in the 15min the macd is turning down which its showing pullback not to enter
it prevents going in every thing needs to line up in both charts
both stoch are showing over bought but the price in the 15 min is only
showing to sell not the 1hr you wait till the15min all goes the same as 1hr
which might be after london open your 200ema is showing up trend too in both and daily
I realize the time was not right. I was only trying to get an answer about the indicators, particularly the stochastics..
At the time I wrote the question (check the time of my post) the 15M chart was not as you describe it.
The MAs were both crossed up. Both MACDs were crossed upward.

There is nothing in your rules about a MACDs or MAs "turning" up or down. The rules speak of them being crossed or not crossed. There is a difference.

Here are your "rules":

"The 5ema and 8ema have to be crossed down.
Then the MACD on one chart is crossed down
You then wait when the MACD on the other chart crosses
over.
Once that happens you are good to trade."
(Not a word about anything "turning").

The stochastics were both overbought and that was what I was asking about.

Let me try one more time.

If all MAs and MACDs on all three time frames indicate a long, but the stochastics on the 1H or 15M are overbought- do you not take the trade?

If all MAs and MACDs on all three time frames indicate a short, but the stochastics on the 1H or 15M are oversold- do you not take the trade?

Please don't direct me to your rules, because they do not answer those questions clearly.
  • #156
  • Edited 4:33pm Mar 18, 2008 5:58am | Edited 4:33pm
Quoting shakin23
Thanks tcmm for 25 pips on eu
HERE A GOOD SETUP GUYS nice and clear
rules at post#59
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  • #157
  • Mar 18, 2008 7:54am Mar 18, 2008 7:54am
Quoting andante9
That being said, I have seen a lot of charts where the the stoch stays OS or OB for a continued length of time while the price action continues to rise or fall as it was. So I guess I dunno for sure. I find the original rules to kind of lead one to think that the stoc is checked in the daily chart - then one looks for the other signals to line up in 15m and 1h. Not sure myself - still experimenting with this system.
I don't think we're going to get an answer. That must be the "secret".

We'll just have to piece it together.

If you look at the last chart he posted which he claimed was a good setup.
The daily was over bought. The 15M was overbought.
The hourly wasn't.
Maybe we can assume that the 1H is the only one where the stochastic is important.

Also, where he placed the trade was only 15M (at the most) into the hourly bar.
  • #158
  • Mar 18, 2008 8:17am Mar 18, 2008 8:17am
Quoting billbss
I don't think we're going to get an answer. That must be the "secret".

We'll just have to piece it together.

If you look at the last chart he posted which he claimed was a good setup.
The daily was over bought. The 15M was overbought.
The hourly wasn't.
Maybe we can assume that the 1H is the only one where the stochastic is important.

Also, where he placed the trade was only 15M (at the most) into the hourly bar.
GUYS DON'T WORRY ABOUT STOCH PLEASE ITS JUST THERE TO SEE
AGAIN FOR THE MILLION TIME TO SEE OVERBOUGHT AND OVER SOLD
ITS THE OTHER INDICATORS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO LINE UP IN THE
1HR AND 15MIN----------DAILY CHART IS TO CHECK FOR 200EMA UPTREND OR
DOWNTREND THATS IT!
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  • #159
  • Mar 18, 2008 9:40am Mar 18, 2008 9:40am
Hi!

I use stochastic to see OB/OS, divergence and timing an entry in the 15 minute chart.

For instance, go with the trend as reflected in a higher TF:

In the hourly chart, if stochastic is <= 20% means that price will turn direction and confirm stochastic cross back above 20% + macd is trading up and price trades above 200 ema + 5/8 is golden cross then go to the 15 minute chart to pinpoint.

In the 15 minute chart, macd is trading up, price trades above 200 ema + 5/8 ema cross up with good angle and seperation means momentum changes then initiate a long position when stochastic is crossing up that I call good timing an entry.


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  • #160
  • Mar 18, 2008 9:41am Mar 18, 2008 9:41am
Quoting billbss
I don't think we're going to get an answer. That must be the "secret".

We'll just have to piece it together.

If you look at the last chart he posted which he claimed was a good setup.
The daily was over bought. The 15M was overbought.
The hourly wasn't.
Maybe we can assume that the 1H is the only one where the stochastic is important.

Also, where he placed the trade was only 15M (at the most) into the hourly bar.
billbss, i think you shouldn´t complain that much. if you dont like this method than just leave. you are trying to find something here you wont get: "the holy grail"
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