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  • #141
  • Feb 28, 2008 1:36am Feb 28, 2008 1:36am
Quoting Yoda_Glenn
I'm rather agnostic on this issue, but how does everyone know that this image isn't photo-shopped by metaquote's competition? And how does anyone know if meta-quotes is simply keeping this off of their forums because it's simply a false attack on their business? I'm not saying that this virtual-dealer thingy is fake, but you have to be somewhat cautious about what you see, hear or read about on the internet....especially when it comes to the Forex.
Hmmm, a conspiracy theory too far methinks.
  • #142
  • Feb 28, 2008 2:30am Feb 28, 2008 2:30am
Quoting Yoda_Glenn
I'm rather agnostic on this issue, but how does everyone know that this image isn't photo-shopped by metaquote's competition? And how does anyone know if meta-quotes is simply keeping this off of their forums because it's simply a false attack on their business? I'm not saying that this virtual-dealer thingy is fake, but you have to be somewhat cautious about what you see, hear or read about on the internet....especially when it comes to the Forex.
You are right.. in general (i mean it doesn't even look real).
BUT.. what sets this case apart is that this is some real issue, for the simple fact that there was evidence about its existence, right from some Metaquotes staff member. Sure, this evidence has been wiped off their site, but we can still track it in the archives (thanks to those organizations providing anti-censorship in the web).
And why would Metaquotes not even give such a statement if it wasn't for hushing up the topic. They really should clarify that - but do they? This is what comes out for them. And although a bit childish, they shall be forced to react - for that this issue must be kept alive.

Here again the links:

This is a championship forum page where they deleted an article about virtual dealer plugin! Check out second entry at: http://forum.mql4.com/6319/page12
This is the cached version: http://www.google.com/search?q=cache...n&ct=clnk&cd=6

Also check out waybackmachine: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://...et/forum/1687/ (first version: http://web.archive.org/web/200611140...et/forum/1687/)

However, I wasn't able to find evidence for this plugin being offered anywhere as a product or addon.
  • #143
  • Edited 4:10am Feb 28, 2008 3:34am | Edited 4:10am
Quoting Yoda_Glenn
I'm rather agnostic on this issue, but how does everyone know that this image isn't photo-shopped by metaquote's competition? And how does anyone know if meta-quotes is simply keeping this off of their forums because it's simply a false attack on their business? I'm not saying that this virtual-dealer thingy is fake, but you have to be somewhat cautious about what you see, hear or read about on the internet....especially when it comes to the Forex.
http://forum.alpari.co.uk/post3879-2.html
They know about it.
But think at '' Virtual dealer does not have enough functionality....''
Looks that Virtual dealer is the head of the iceberg...
  • #144
  • Feb 28, 2008 3:59am Feb 28, 2008 3:59am
Quoting Yoda_Glenn
I'm rather agnostic on this issue, but how does everyone know that this image isn't photo-shopped by metaquote's competition? And how does anyone know if meta-quotes is simply keeping this off of their forums because it's simply a false attack on their business? I'm not saying that this virtual-dealer thingy is fake, but you have to be somewhat cautious about what you see, hear or read about on the internet....especially when it comes to the Forex.
You can also be agnostic if you want about broker scams, stop hunting, false spikes, dealer interventions, manual executions, broker trading against you, market manipulations, insider trading. No one is forcing you to believe. But the evidence is strong and in the case of the Virtual Dealer Plug-In everything points to the truth; the snapshot, broker behaviour as well as metaquotes behaviour on the matter. For me, the overwhelming proof is Metaquotes behaviour in deleting all posts on this subject, refusing to answer questions and banning everyone on their forum who dares post about this.
  • #145
  • Feb 28, 2008 4:25am Feb 28, 2008 4:25am
have these things happen to you: broker scams, stop hunting, false spikes, dealer interventions, manual executions, broker trading against you,market
manipulations, insider trading. then stop whinning and just trade with an e.c.n. and please don't give me some b.s. about ecn brokers. are you guys ever gonna be happy, look like you guys do more whinning and complaining then trading, you guys act like you can't get ahead.
If I Go Broke Trying Then I Will die happy.
  • #146
  • Feb 28, 2008 4:33am Feb 28, 2008 4:33am
Quoting Moe
why pay when you can get the mt-4 charts for free with demo.
For me the word ''FREE'' is so strange in FINANCE.Give me some examples ,some definitions,some business models.

They are so good in manipulating feelings.
  • #147
  • Feb 28, 2008 4:35am Feb 28, 2008 4:35am
Quoting UFO Engineer
For me the word ''FREE'' is so strange in FINANCE.Give me some examples ,some definitions,some business models.

They are so good in manipulating feelings.
:surprised
If I Go Broke Trying Then I Will die happy.
  • #148
  • Feb 28, 2008 4:42am Feb 28, 2008 4:42am
look at me i can't get ahead and im a whiner
If I Go Broke Trying Then I Will die happy.
  • #149
  • Feb 28, 2008 4:47am Feb 28, 2008 4:47am
Quoting Moe
:surprised
Yep.
Bundy's status today: "Waiting..."
  • #150
  • Feb 28, 2008 4:48am Feb 28, 2008 4:48am
Quoting Moe
have these things happen to you: broker scams, stop hunting, false spikes, dealer interventions, manual executions, broker trading against you,market manipulations, insider trading. then stop whinning and just trade with an e.c.n. and please don't give me some b.s. about ecn brokers. are you guys ever gonna be happy, look like you guys do more whinning and complaining then trading, you guys act like you can't get ahead.
Bro, who's forcing you to read this thread? You could just as easily look elsewhere but you keep needlessly following this thread and support your broker friends at every opportunity. Strange. Or do you have a hidden agenda?
There is overwhelming evidence of all of the above in forums all over the web. And yes, some of the above happen to me. Don't forget that everyone has their own style of trading and if you are not effected by broker antics that doesnt mean that it doesnt happen to others. Unfortunately, when brokers read what you write above and they do follow this forum, then they will never change.
  • #151
  • Feb 28, 2008 5:20am Feb 28, 2008 5:20am
Quoting UFO Engineer
http://forum.alpari.co.uk/post3879-2.html
They know about it.
But think at '' Virtual dealer does not have enough functionality....''
Looks that Virtual dealer is the head of the iceberg...
That post gives no admittance at the existence of this plug-in. Where does the poster say that the plug in is real? He is simply saying that such a plug in would make no sense for them, business wise.
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  • #152
  • Feb 28, 2008 5:23am Feb 28, 2008 5:23am
Quoting Moe
have these things happen to you: broker scams, stop hunting, false spikes, dealer interventions, manual executions, broker trading against you,market
manipulations, insider trading. then stop whinning and just trade with an e.c.n. and please don't give me some b.s. about ecn brokers. are you guys ever gonna be happy, look like you guys do more whinning and complaining then trading, you guys act like you can't get ahead.
I'll make easy for you:

NO MORE TRUST IN THE BROKER===> FEAR TO PUT ON A TRADE ===>emotional pain===>CAN'T create a carefree state of mind that completely accepts the fact that there are always unknown forces operating in the market===>DON'T Make Yourself Available WHEN IT'S TIME TO GO IN POSITION ===>Failure to Take Responsibility FOR THE TRADES(BADS ONES)===>state of dissatisfaction,
disappointment, frustration, confusion, despair, regret, or
hopelessness===>TRADE WITHOUT carefree state of mind===> NO consistent profits===>OUT OF BUSINESS
  • #153
  • Feb 28, 2008 5:30am Feb 28, 2008 5:30am
Quoting Moe
:surprised
Why I am NOT surprised about your answer
  • #154
  • Feb 28, 2008 5:31am Feb 28, 2008 5:31am
Quoting PipStar
You can also be agnostic if you want about broker scams, stop hunting, false spikes, dealer interventions, manual executions, broker trading against you, market manipulations, insider trading. No one is forcing you to believe. But the evidence is strong and in the case of the Virtual Dealer Plug-In everything points to the truth; the snapshot, broker behaviour as well as metaquotes behaviour on the matter. For me, the overwhelming proof is Metaquotes behaviour in deleting all posts on this subject, refusing to answer questions and banning everyone on their forum who dares post about this.
If I were Meta Quotes I would delete your post and account as well, whether this thing is real or fake. Also, can you provide proof that you, or someone you know, is a victim of this dealer fraud?
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  • #155
  • Feb 28, 2008 5:57am Feb 28, 2008 5:57am
Quoting Yoda_Glenn
If I were Meta Quotes I would delete your post and account as well, whether this thing is real or fake. Also, can you provide proof that you, or someone you know, is a victim of this dealer fraud?
Of course. I am waiting for brokers to invite me as their guest so that they can show me how they screw us all so that I can show you proof. Or may be you could even knock on their door and request the proof you are seeking and post it here for all of us to see. I am sure they will be more than accomodating.
  • #156
  • Feb 28, 2008 5:58am Feb 28, 2008 5:58am
Funny to dicover who is a MT4 brokers ''plug-in''.http://www.enterbrain.co.jp/tkool/RP...gameover_s.jpg
  • #157
  • Edited 6:19am Feb 28, 2008 6:03am | Edited 6:19am
Quoting UFO Engineer
Funny to dicover who is a MT4 brokers ''plug-in''.http://www.enterbrain.co.jp/tkool/RP...gameover_s.jpg
LOL!

to Yoda,
Or course brokers will never admit that they are cheating us or is implementing something dubious and disadvantageous to the traders. They will always claim "Instant Execution", No Deal Desk, Straight Through Processing, Multibank feeds and the like and most importantly "Your money is safe with us and are kept in Segregated Account" (check my post on USA Bankruptcy to know why segregated account is not safe)
  • #158
  • Feb 28, 2008 6:10am Feb 28, 2008 6:10am
Quoting Yoda_Glenn
That post gives no admittance at the existence of this plug-in. Where does the poster say that the plug in is real? He is simply saying that such a plug in would make no sense for them, business wise.
So, can I say that you are not ENOUGH smart,beautiful,sexy EVEN if I don't know you???
  • #159
  • Feb 28, 2008 6:25am Feb 28, 2008 6:25am
Sheese, are you all just teenagers? Why can't we have a well reasoned discussion on this topic?Why does it always have to turn into and pre pubescent pissing match? Come on start using some civility and logic.

I am more and more disappointed with the personal attacks of late. I suppose I will just move back to the Trading Room only.
  • #160
  • Feb 28, 2008 6:33am Feb 28, 2008 6:33am
[quote=smjones;1874695]Sheese, are you all just teenagers? Why can't we have a well reasoned discussion on this topic. Why does it always have to turn into and pre pubescent pissing match. Come on start using some civility and logic.

Be sure ,if you are a ''plug in '' I don't miss you,if not sorry.Nothing personal just a logic question
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