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  • #141
  • Jan 30, 2008 7:25pm Jan 30, 2008 7:25pm
Quoting Leonlorenzo
Hi Blue,

To start with I would like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for this tool, Ive been using it for a month or so and has saved me many valuable hours of time.

The Ability to test systems or new ideas so quickly and easily over large amounts of data, USING DISGRETION, is absolutely priceless!

Also, I was wondering if there was a way to trade multiple timeframes using V-hands, I know it will not be possible to have two seperate chart windows open, but........

Maby having a MTF candle indicator 'like the one atatched below' that can be opened in the indicator window could be possible?
If you have any idea how to do this I would be very greatfull.

Thanks and Good trading,

Leon
You're welcome for whatever help I've been; I didn't program it, however, so thanks for the tool goes to someone else.

You can have any number of charts open while vHands is running on its one chart. Click autoscroll off and run the chart back to the point in time you're interested in. That's the best you can do, you cannot change timeframes in vHands once you start.

I don't know if an MTF indicator will work in Vhands, I doubt it. Experiment as you wish with it. Otherwise, attach it to one of the other charts.
  • #142
  • Feb 6, 2008 7:03am Feb 6, 2008 7:03am
Hey blue,

I have read your many wonderful contributing threads in skunny's forum. I am really interested in finding out if you used the zig zag with the settings skunny suggested. I cant get it to work with those settings and would be delighted if you can give me any suggestions.

Thanks HH
  • #143
  • Feb 6, 2008 7:35am Feb 6, 2008 7:35am
  •  TrevA
  • | Joined Oct 2007 | Status: my brain has a mind of its own | 166 Posts
Blue

First of all I want to say thanks for setting up this thread to support vHands. What an amazing little tool!

Komposter is shown as the author in the source code so I wonder who he is. He has a russian e-mail account and some of the comments are in russian too.

He should be congratulated for producing such a fine EA for metatrader because I'm using it to manually test systems that would take me hours if not days of manual testing on a demo account.

Using vHands is like being in pilot school but using a flight simulator to log ours before taking to the skies.

Awesome stuff. Are you still using?

TrevA
  • #144
  • Feb 6, 2008 7:17pm Feb 6, 2008 7:17pm
Quoting TrevA
Blue

First of all I want to say thanks for setting up this thread to support vHands. What an amazing little tool!

Komposter is shown as the author in the source code so I wonder who he is. He has a russian e-mail account and some of the comments are in russian too.

He should be congratulated for producing such a fine EA for metatrader because I'm using it to manually test systems that would take me hours if not days of manual testing on a demo account.

Using vHands is like being in pilot school but using a flight simulator to log ours before taking to the skies.

Awesome stuff. Are you still using?

TrevA
Well, no. I'm kinda on vacation for the last few weeks, am trading but not doing much studyiing or practice. Blowing my study time on FF I guess!

It definitely improved my trading, totally convinced me to use nothing but 4 hour candles for G/J setups, and since then I've done much much better. I suppose I should spend a few hours a week on it to stay on track, but, I'm not sure how close it connects to reality. In live trading, the waiting is definitely a factor, and price action will be different than it is in the database.
  • #145
  • Feb 7, 2008 6:55pm Feb 7, 2008 6:55pm
I just tried to run vHands and there is no pause/play button anymore, I can't adjust the speed either. So, I can't use it. Any idea what is going on here? See the pic:
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  • #146
  • Feb 7, 2008 7:04pm Feb 7, 2008 7:04pm
You have to re-size the lower window.
  • #147
  • Feb 7, 2008 7:17pm Feb 7, 2008 7:17pm
Quoting blueruby
You have to re-size the lower window.
Oh. Thanks.
  • #148
  • Feb 10, 2008 11:12pm Feb 10, 2008 11:12pm
Why not trade the 1m chart if time duration is an issue,

Yes it is very much easier to gain pips when you speed things up since you can see the momentum ... like it is written ... so trading 1m chart make you see almost real life speed with slower setting......
  • #149
  • Feb 11, 2008 3:06am Feb 11, 2008 3:06am
Does anyone here know how to persuade vhands to start on different dates?

Mine starts on 2nd Oct 2007 whatever values I have in From, To or Skip To.

  • #150
  • Feb 11, 2008 3:27am Feb 11, 2008 3:27am
Quoting SteveHopwood
Does anyone here know how to persuade vhands to start on different dates?

Mine starts on 2nd Oct 2007 whatever values I have in From, To or Skip To.

Try going to "tools, options, charts" and set "max bars in chart" to the max, or enter a huge number. This may help, I'm not totally sure.

If you're trading lower than 1H the data still may not be there.
  • #151
  • Feb 12, 2008 5:21am Feb 12, 2008 5:21am
many thanks for all your efforts blueruby.

id like to know if there is a solution for size of the file created. after playing 2 days the file got a size of 10 gb. that is normal? any solution by now?

thanks in advance and sorry for my bad english.
  • #152
  • Feb 12, 2008 6:33am Feb 12, 2008 6:33am
Quoting giraia_br
many thanks for all your efforts blueruby.

id like to know if there is a solution for size of the file created. after playing 2 days the file got a size of 10 gb. that is normal? any solution by now?

thanks in advance and sorry for my bad english.
Go look back around posts # 84 - 100 for discussion.

You must make sure everything is installed correctly, and that you use it correctly; whenever there is an error condition it prints a statement many thousands of times.

There is a version of vHands posted (post #94) with the print commands taken out. If all else fails, try using that one. Karol said it cured the problem.
  • #153
  • Feb 12, 2008 12:55pm Feb 12, 2008 12:55pm
I'm trying to play "catch up" here. I am trying to load the vHands program as per your instructions. I have gotten as far as programing the "Strategy Tester". For some reason when I press "start" the chart changes to a bar chart (instead of the candle chart I first programed) and, I do not have a "pause" button, only "Start" or "Stop".
What am I doing wrong?
I am trying to follow Skunny's Thread, but in order to do that, I needed to download vhands....I also needed to go to Bo's Thread on Fibonacci, which led me back to Baby Pips.....I feel like I'm on an old fashioned Scavanger Hunt. The MT4 charts I had originally loaded, did not seem to work like I expected, so I switched to my IBFX demo platform, which did not work when I tried to program it....so I downloaded another IBFX demo, which is the one I am currently experiencing the above mentioned problems. The rate I'm going, I will be VERY old by the time I get all the necessay ingredients to bake this cake...and then I might not have any teeth left to eat it!
I'm sorry to be such a pest/whiner/crybaby/...but I ain't hav'in any fun yet!
Thanks for listening
ppm
  • #154
  • Feb 12, 2008 4:56pm Feb 12, 2008 4:56pm
hello blueruby,

Thanks for really taking your time to really teach us how to use vhand. I have installed and took some virtual buy order of previous data.......... but am yet to understand how to use vhand to backtest my trading system. and precisely, wot is vhand really made to do.

Am sorry for asking a question that might sound a bit stupid.

let me throw more light here..........

How can i use vhand to back test a trainding method based on fibo only to see how profitable the method is
  • #155
  • Feb 12, 2008 6:36pm Feb 12, 2008 6:36pm
Quoting perPIPtual Motion
I'm trying to play "catch up" here. I am trying to load the vHands program as per your instructions. I have gotten as far as programing the "Strategy Tester". For some reason when I press "start" the chart changes to a bar chart (instead of the candle chart I first programed) and, I do not have a "pause" button, only "Start" or "Stop".
What am I doing wrong? ppm
Go to post #4 and make sure to set your charts the way you like, with candles, indicators, whatever you use, MAKE SURE vHistory and vTerminal are attached as instructed, then save the template as "vHandsTrade".

If you don't have the pause/play button, just make the strategy tester window larger.
  • #156
  • Feb 12, 2008 6:39pm Feb 12, 2008 6:39pm
Quoting Naijafx

How can i use vhand to back test a trainding method based on fibo only to see how profitable the method is
You're welcome. You would manually trade the method just as you would do it live. You can only use one timeframe on vHands, so that can make it more cumbersome.

Be sure to see the post on using F11 to toggle full screen, and use pause to pause/play in full screen mode. You'll have to go out of full screen to draw fibs or otherwise change the chart settings.

All vHands does is use strategy tester to playback historical data and allow you to have manual trade control during the playback.
  • #157
  • Feb 16, 2008 11:35am Feb 16, 2008 11:35am
Blue Ruby,

Thanks so much for all of your help..I want you to know that it is appreciated..

HH
  • #158
  • Edited 2:50pm Feb 17, 2008 2:33pm | Edited 2:50pm
Hi,Late starter in Skunny's Thread and have successfully installed and used vHands. I interpreted Skunny's exercise to mean study the Fib and results of price using the Weekly chart with vHands. But, I am unable to run it with a Weekly chart. The Tester has a drop down list that only goes up to a Daily. Am I mis-interpreting Skunny's instructions? Or am I missing something in vHands that should allow me to run it on a weeklychart?Thanks much.Seattleust
  • #159
  • Feb 17, 2008 7:21pm Feb 17, 2008 7:21pm
i think it will not good for vhand, right?

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  • #160
  • Feb 18, 2008 3:16am Feb 18, 2008 3:16am
Quoting seattlerust
Hi,Late starter in Skunny's Thread and have successfully installed and used vHands. I interpreted Skunny's exercise to mean study the Fib and results of price using the Weekly chart with vHands. But, I am unable to run it with a Weekly chart. The Tester has a drop down list that only goes up to a Daily. Am I mis-interpreting Skunny's instructions? Or am I missing something in vHands that should allow me to run it on a weeklychart?Thanks much.Seattleust
Skunny intended us to use a chart on our usual MT4 platform for the weekly exercise, rather than vhands. Vhands doesn't go as far as weekly charts.


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