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DislikedHi, PipStar.
I notice you state your occupation as "trader". I also notice you've been a FF member for nearly 2 years (observant, ain't I? ).
Would you care to step up to the plate? Rise to the challenge? Or do you consider yourself apart from the "established order" (whatever the hell that is)?
As a newbie trader wannabe, I'd derive a great deal of encouragement knowing it really can be done.Ignored
DislikedStrange, you state you are a newbie wannabe trader but you are already being vouched for 1KT. So I imagine you will soon tell us how you do it.Ignored
DislikedGoing back to the original topic, this is a challenge from the original thread starter to those who say that they are profitable to prove it. I have not made claims either way. Nor do I teach, make analyis, claim to possess any holy grails or wear any knowledge badge.Ignored
DislikedThose are the ones with the most need to show proof to establish their credibility.Ignored
DislikedBut I can assure you that if one day I have any statements worth posting, and Mystic Genie did it in his thread 1k to 100k topic, then I will.Ignored
DislikedThe main reason why I am not posting my succesfull statement here, because I dont want to share other peoples my entries, exits and compounding rules.
I dont think succesfull traders post their live statement too.
I have a positieve record in 2007. I have turned in that year $13,000 to $44,200. It can be done. You dont need to be an institional trader to make lots of money.Ignored
DislikedOk Ok I,ll post the screenshot's of my This Month's Mini account performance( Which is not finished Yet) like FXTex ... Im playing with standard also but have a couple of carry trades i,ll post their results too soon.... Here is the screenshot's of my mini... i didn't post the PDF here coz i dont wana show my Acoount No, My Complete UseName...etc , etc here Have a Look...Ignored
Dislikedwell somebody already posted an account statement in this thread, so doesnt that mean your challenge was met?
also there was a statement posted in this thread, and i saw the statement before he edited his account number so it looked like a real account to me.
btw, this whole account statement stuff is irrelevant. most real traders have several accounts. even the brokers i trade with dont know how much money i make because they are only seeing a small portion of my trading. i could post account statements that show 100% accuracy over 200 trades, but what would that prove? that one of my accounts got lucky? and if i posted an account statement i would lose the respect of the best traders at FF, because they too know how foolish it is. if you really want to know if forex is profitable or not, i suggest using other means such as studying publicly available CTA records. also there is some research posted here (although not forex related, but all markets are basically the same), enough to keep you busy for weeks.Ignored
DislikedWell i wont say one statement proofs that forex is a profitable venture.
I wont say the whole account statement is irrelevant. If you buy a second hand car you want to see the road worthy certificate. If you buy a diamont ring for your wife/girlfriend/mistress then you wanna see the appraisal or certificate that shows it is genuine diamond and not just piece of nothing. If i get an architect to design my dream house do you think i am gonna use the one that refuses to show me his design? If i wanna get someone to built my dream house then i wanna see if he can built first. So i ask him to show me houses that he has already built. That way i can judge his work. If he tells me he is good builder but can't or doesn't wanna show me anything he had built do you think i am gonna use him? No matter where you go or what you do people will always ask for proof. However on forex sites proof is not something people wanna share or considered relevant. Now that is reason enough to be suspicious. And you cant blame the non-believers for being sceptic about making money in forex if only one or two people are showing accounts.
Come on guys get real. The proof is needed. How many traders just realized they started trading live without ever seeing a real live account statement of a profitable forex traders?
I mean they are quick to post a trading system or shoot a trading system down. They are quick to tell others how not to trade. They are quick to tell others how easy it is making money in forex. They are quick to tell you to cut your losses short and let your winners run. They are quick to tell you about money management. They are quick to tell me they dont need to proof anything. But they are very slow to post anything.
So what i am saying is....shut me up once and for all...proof to everyone that i am a loonie...a wanna be......just post your statement. That will proof everything.Ignored
DislikedIf you buy a second hand car you want to see the road worthy certificate.Ignored
DislikedI mean they are quick to post a trading system or shoot a trading system down. They are quick to tell others how not to trade. They are quick to tell others how easy it is making money in forex. They are quick to tell you to cut your losses short and let your winners run. They are quick to tell you about money management. They are quick to tell me they dont need to proof anything. But they are very slow to post anything.Ignored
DislikedTime,
Are you basing your future as a trader on what feed back you get on this thread? if you do stick with it....you will find that what others think, say and do has no inpact on you at all- and you will also be able to see the talkers from the walkers. Stick with it, focus on yourself...don't go to a forum until you are profitable as they tend to cloud the mind of some.Ignored
DislikedYou are right, but what if that car is given to you for free? Would you pretend that certificate?
I mean, people here are posting for free. They give you advice for free, they spend their own time for us all to read and learn from them. Some of them are fakes, some other are very good and trustworthy traders. I think we have to do our own research and establish who is trustworthy and who is not. Pretending statements wont help you on this because if one is really a fake he is surely able to falsify statements. So the only way to really know what is good and what is not is to try yourself, and to develop yourself an instinct about what is good and what is crap, so that you can focus your work more on good stuff and less on bad.
Definitively, if someone gives a car for free to you I think the first thing you have to do is to thank him, and only later you work on the car yourself to see if it's really a good present. If it is not good you will not accept any more present from that guy, otherwise you thank him again and again, both if he will make other presents to you in the future or not.
Some of them are slow, some other are very speed to do that. Some of them even makes live calls or have a journal, or a link to a personal site with live statements updated daily (some of them with live accounts, not demo). I think you just have to search FF a little bit more.
Also I don't accept the concept that only who is profitable has something to teach about trading. I've learned a lot of things from people that are not profitable and from systems that do not work. Do you think a mechanic learn his profession on perfect cars or on broken ones?
Time, I don't want to be harsh, trading is not easy, if you think you can do any progress just sitting here waiting for someone to show you what money can really be made with trading I think by the time you'll get it you will be too old and too tired to do it yourself.Ignored
DislikedSimply post the folowing...
You Fk$%# A$$.
Tell me how to make money here cause I have no F$^%$ Clue how to do this and you A$$_l@s keep on sayin' you're makin' money. I want Some !
Who knows, maybe someone will take pity on you. But, alas, not me. All I can suggest is {if you have not found your way} keep trying your present strategy of calling others down to your level. I once heard 10% of women would accept the DIRECT Approach, perhaps Traders harbour a similar percentage:
ie: Hey; You a Winner? Tell me how you do it !
But I guess I'm that 90% group so...
Ahhh ... Dream On Bud.Ignored
DislikedI mean they are quick to post a trading system or shoot a trading system down. They are quick to tell others how not to trade. They are quick to tell others how easy it is making money in forex. They are quick to tell you to cut your losses short and let your winners run. They are quick to tell you about money management. They are quick to tell me they dont need to proof anything. But they are very slow to post anything.Ignored
Dislikedafter much thought to this subject and finally deciding that since some failure needs to see this, I have decided to post my statement.
I hope those that believe no one can be profitable because they can't now realize that they can be. Please do not tell me I photoshopped this.
I most certainly did not.Ignored
Dislikedafter much thought to this subject and finally deciding that since some failure needs to see this, I have decided to post my statement.
I hope those that believe no one can be profitable because they can't now realize that they can be. Please do not tell me I photoshopped this.
I most certainly did not.Ignored
DislikedSo here is my suggestion. If you were profitable in 2007 then please post your live account statements on this forum after you have taken all the necessary safety measures like deleting your account number and name etc.
This would be helpful in two ways.
Firstly is would encourage a lot of traders who are suffering continious losses in the sense that there is money to be made in forex.
Secondly it would settle the "95% losers vs 5% winners in forex" debate once and all.
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