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  • #21
  • Feb 7, 2008 6:36am Feb 7, 2008 6:36am
Quoting Tsotsi
Common sense dictates that if only 5% of forex traders winners then those traders would be flithy rich. I can't just imagine only 5% traders getting money from 95% of all traders neither would I believe that 3 or so trillion dollars traded of the forex markets every day, ends up in the bank or brokerage accounts of only 5% of all forex traders.
This sounds just too good to be true.

the 5% are the big financial institutions and big funds in my opinion. They are not the average joe trading from home with his $500 - $50 000 live account.

That is what the whole 95% vs 5% debate is about.
  • #22
  • Feb 7, 2008 6:37am Feb 7, 2008 6:37am
LMAO!! im sorry, i just couldnt help myself. This was just too funny. Im still laughing.

Quoting djmetric
Good idea Time! Also can everyone please show their bank account and credit card statements for 2007.
If you trade part time and have a regular job please show us your payslips.

Thanks guys. This info will really help us newbies here in Nigeria.
  • #23
  • Feb 7, 2008 6:44am Feb 7, 2008 6:44am
didnt some guy just proved his 2m dollars account ? he posted his statement with his real name too ... wont that be enuf ?
To Live is the rarest thing in the world , Most people exist , that is all
  • #24
  • Feb 7, 2008 7:08am Feb 7, 2008 7:08am
Quoting Time
That is why i said to post statements that show a withdrawl on them because only they are valid.

If however someone feels the need to photoshop his account statement then he needs more help than i can provide....lol
If you won't take someone's word for it that they make money, why would you accept a statement that could be faked?

If someone really does make money, why would it be important to them to prove it to you?

I make money trading forex, but I don't care what anyone thinks, especially someone who has already convinced theirself that I'm a liar.
  • #25
  • Feb 7, 2008 7:13am Feb 7, 2008 7:13am
Quoting FarhadFX
hello everybody.
here are my 2 statements in forex from 2005 up to now with more than 2 million dollars withdrawal (of course with my rebates and commissions) ... for those who think there's not any profit in forex and for those who are always suspicious about brokers and this market and seek for some HOPE!

please download the statements from the following links:

http://rapidshare.com/files/85127864...ment1.rar.html

http://rapidshare.com/files/85199603/Statement.rar.html

Regards
Farhad
Thank you for posting your account statement here.

Although i cannot open .rar files i am sure there are people who would be able to open it and give the necessary response.

Congratulations on your succesful trading.
  • #26
  • Feb 7, 2008 7:32am Feb 7, 2008 7:32am
Quoting Time
Thank you for posting your account statement here.

Although i cannot open .rar files i am sure there are people who would be able to open it and give the necessary response.

Congratulations on your succesful trading.
you can open .rar files with Winrar
THE BEST NEVER REST
  • #27
  • Feb 7, 2008 7:38am Feb 7, 2008 7:38am
Quoting doughboi
Nobody is going to post......i repeat, NOBODY is going to post There LIVE accounts because

1)half the people who talk like they know what they are talking about and act like they are trading gods and are awlays posting their crap analysis trying to show off (nobody cares!) probally never trade live. And if they do, they fail because they do not take trades that they post on here.

2) They wont post because they will become exposed of their incapability to yield the results that their show off post's and 1kt badge indicate.

3) They are just as unsuccesful at trading the market as you are

SO TO ALL THE SO CALLED "TOP EXPERIENCED TRADERS" ....EITHER PUT UP! OR SHUT UP!
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You are 100% correct.

Of those who claim to be successful at trading the forex, very few actually do make money; that's why they WON'T post any statements.
They will make all sorts of excuses like the ones you read on the 1KT forum:
- Good traders dont show their statements ..... blah blah blah
and again - Good traders dont talk about their trades ..... blah blah blah and more ..... blah blah blah
And on top of that, they endlessly patronise the rest of us with their so called wisdom. Give us a break !!! The reason newbies are losing money is because they are learning from losers

I say, if there are truly any successful traders, show us the money !!! (Statement). Prove it.
  • #28
  • Feb 7, 2008 7:42am Feb 7, 2008 7:42am
I don't Think So that anybody is willing to post his personal statement over here ... This is a Public Form lol...
  • #29
  • Feb 7, 2008 8:56am Feb 7, 2008 8:56am
Quoting Time
the 5% are the big financial institutions and big funds in my opinion. They are not the average joe trading from home with his $500 - $50 000 live account.

That is what the whole 95% vs 5% debate is about.
As usual everyone is missing the point!
The 3tn in daily volume is not comprised solely from speculative deals.
How about a company like Honda or Ford who for years built their cars in England (before it turned to shit and forgot how to stick cars together) and needed to pay their workers in pounds?

Oh btw. I'm not making profit either, but haven't made any great losses, just sort of loitering around break even. Although if I was a stupid as most of the posters on this forum I would have been bankrupt about 5 months ago, having had a live account since last September.
  • #30
  • Feb 7, 2008 10:16am Feb 7, 2008 10:16am
Let the hatred be shed upon each other

ps. It would certainly be nice to see some live statements, inspiring rather. But the point is, who has to prove anything to whom? The info is being shared on the forums, use it, test it, see if it works for you, someone elses pocket isn't going to benefit you.

I personally don't give a damn about any badges, I just look at what the person has to say. After several years of trading, you kinda see who's talking, no matter the badges.

If you're a newbie, stick to learning the basis, practice, and you won't need any proofs of anything. You'll make it on your own.

Here's one of the lessons I've learned: never listen to anyone who says "The price's gonna go up, the price's gonna go down", if they mistaken, you won't benefit. If you make your own mistake, you will benefit, because you'll learn from it.

Why would you even care who's successful here and who's not on this forum? Who's making you listen to anyone here? You have your judgment, use it. If you can't make your own judgment on the market yet, learn. The basics are not hard to learn and are known by successful and unsuccessful traders. It's not what you know that'll make you succeed, it's who you are.
Trax Tibidax Tibidox...
  • #31
  • Feb 7, 2008 10:23am Feb 7, 2008 10:23am
I have always wondered this as well. On another forum I lurk at they have a Profit and Loss journal where people post their profits and losses for the day. I have always wondered why there is no such thread here. If I was profitable I would have no problem showing my equity curve.
  • #32
  • Feb 7, 2008 10:27am Feb 7, 2008 10:27am
Unfortunately, I cant provide statements with withdrawls, because its not my money. Its clients money, im just the humble trader. Here is a sample, however, from one of my smaller accounts from the past 24 hours.

Lawrence a.k.a. The Bear
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  • #33
  • Feb 7, 2008 10:51am Feb 7, 2008 10:51am
Quoting Beartrade
Unfortunately, I cant provide statements with withdrawls, because its not my money. Its clients money, im just the humble trader. Here is a sample, however, from one of my smaller accounts from the past 24 hours.

Lawrence a.k.a. The Bear

Thank you. Very much appreciated. But like i said if there is no withdrawl on the statement then i consider it a demo account. No offense meant.
  • #34
  • Feb 7, 2008 10:57am Feb 7, 2008 10:57am
You really are a waste of TIME aren't you?
  • #35
  • Feb 7, 2008 11:00am Feb 7, 2008 11:00am
If i were withdrawing my clients money... That would be called theft. I wouldnt be posting here, i would be in prison. Suit, yourself. This is why most people dont post. Because some people are never satisfied. What you consider a "demo" is my smallest P.A.M.M. with other peoples money.
  • #36
  • Feb 7, 2008 11:15am Feb 7, 2008 11:15am
Quoting blueruby
If you won't take someone's word for it that they make money, why would you accept a statement that could be faked?

If someone really does make money, why would it be important to them to prove it to you?

I make money trading forex, but I don't care what anyone thinks, especially someone who has already convinced theirself that I'm a liar.
Thank you for your response but this thread is not interested in reasons why you are not willing to post your live account statements. This thread is only interested in seeing the live account statement of someone saying they are profitable.

There are many other threads where you can give all your reasons for not posting your statements.

Regards
  • #37
  • Feb 7, 2008 11:20am Feb 7, 2008 11:20am
Quoting Beartrade
If i were withdrawing my clients money... That would be called theft. I wouldnt be posting here, i would be in prison. Suit, yourself. This is why most people dont post. Because some people are never satisfied. What you consider a "demo" is my smallest P.A.M.M. with other peoples money.

We don't ask that you withdraw money out of your client's account.

We ask you to post a statement of a trading account where the person you traded for has made a withdrawl out of that account during the last year.
  • #38
  • Feb 7, 2008 11:28am Feb 7, 2008 11:28am
Quoting Beartrade
If i were withdrawing my clients money... That would be called theft. I wouldnt be posting here, i would be in prison. Suit, yourself. This is why most people dont post. Because some people are never satisfied. What you consider a "demo" is my smallest P.A.M.M. with other peoples money.


Bear....just so you know....I've never seen anyone really preform an open heart surgery before...just a lot of talk about it......I don't really think it can be done......except in a Hollywood studio somewhere! In fact; I will refuse to have one attempted (if needed) unless I can see one done first-hand in an operating room.
  • #39
  • Feb 7, 2008 11:30am Feb 7, 2008 11:30am
Quoting Time
We don't ask that you withdraw money out of your client's account.

We ask you to post a statement of a trading account where the person you traded for has made a withdrawl out of that account during the last year.
ok so nobody's gonna post their live statements to you.

Your conclusion, most of people on this forum (95%? 97% or 99.8%?) are losers. Thus proving that forex is impossible.

So what's your next plan now TIME? stocks? futures?
  • #40
  • Feb 7, 2008 11:41am Feb 7, 2008 11:41am
Quoting Time
If after a month nobody has posted their account statements then we would conclude the "95% of forex traders are unsuccesful" statement is true.
We?

Without hard statistical evidence to back it up, I would guess 95% is probably pretty close to the mark. But regardless of what anyone believes or guesses, would you really feel comfortable drawing a firm conclusion based on lack of evidence? It's fine that you're trying to nail down a precise number but there are probably far more accurate (and less antagonistic) means of going about it. And besides, what's the point? Not trying to be confrontational or anything. Just askin'.

Oh. Just one more question occured to me. What would you conclude if statements are posted within your arbitrary time frame?
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