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  • #101
  • Jan 30, 2008 6:24am Jan 30, 2008 6:24am
Thanks TEB, i think i got it now, will be looking for 123 formations in line with the long term trend, should be interesting... Seems like a reasonable system, for now
  • #102
  • Jan 30, 2008 9:28am Jan 30, 2008 9:28am
TEB, I think your posts are great.
Thanks for all the hard work you put in.

the eur/gbp trade is setting up nicely?
A close above 7450, are you going to enter?


thanks
  • #103
  • Jan 30, 2008 2:48pm Jan 30, 2008 2:48pm
Hey TEB, take a look at these charts, tell me if those are valid set ups..

A- Possible set up on USD/CHF happening at the moment.
B) Something i missed on E/U a bit back, notice first target right around 1.5... interesting
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  • #104
  • Jan 30, 2008 3:34pm Jan 30, 2008 3:34pm
Just a small notice to the "universal look" of charts (like future charts):
1H and below charts look exactly the same on every single traders desk. But since most traders consider anything below 1H to be noise, 1H might be prefered TF for entries and exits. As someone here in forum said, any longterm profitable system should work also on 1H.

Btw for pivot points, you might wanna check GMT charts (i.e. interbank fx charts) , because majority of market movers are London (GMT) based. On those charts, pivots are good TP areas after the intraday trend, usually during morning London hours, has been set.
  • #105
  • Jan 30, 2008 3:42pm Jan 30, 2008 3:42pm
Quoting mades
Just a small notice to the "universal look" of charts (like future charts):
1H and below charts look exactly the same on every single traders desk. But since most traders consider anything below 1H to be noise, 1H might be prefered TF for entries and exits. As someone here in forum said, any longterm profitable system should work also on 1H.

Btw for pivot points, you might wanna check GMT charts (i.e. interbank fx charts) , because majority of market movers are London (GMT) based. On those charts, pivots are good TP areas after the intraday trend, usually during morning London hours, has been set.
I see more misunderstanding about pivots on this thread than I knew existed.

What difference would it make if you plotted a pivot on an IBFX chart as opposed to anyone else's chart?

Regardless who's chart you are using, you can calculate the pivot based upon any 24 hour period you want.

For example, I can use 5PM EST time as the start and stop of my 24 hour day, regardless who's chart I'm using- or 0000 GMT or 0800 GMT or any other time I want.
  • #106
  • Jan 30, 2008 7:47pm Jan 30, 2008 7:47pm
Quoting TEB63
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becareful big events up comming

teb
nice call Teb
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  • #107
  • Jan 30, 2008 8:48pm Jan 30, 2008 8:48pm
Quoting billbss
I see more misunderstanding about pivots on this thread than I knew existed.

What difference would it make if you plotted a pivot on an IBFX chart as opposed to anyone else's chart?

Regardless who's chart you are using, you can calculate the pivot based upon any 24 hour period you want.

For example, I can use 5PM EST time as the start and stop of my 24 hour day, regardless who's chart I'm using- or 0000 GMT or 0800 GMT or any other time I want.
I agree with you it doesn't matter what charts you use
but I was wondering what other misunderstands are you speaking of?

TEB
  • #108
  • Jan 30, 2008 9:44pm Jan 30, 2008 9:44pm
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wild... could it really going long???

TEB
  • #109
  • Jan 30, 2008 11:02pm Jan 30, 2008 11:02pm
I'd say it might be finding support level with 78.6 retracement and 61.8% price projection down from the high. ADX also at a high level 43.70 - over 40 reading is indication trend (downtrend that is) may be coming to an end.
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  • #110
  • Jan 31, 2008 3:22am Jan 31, 2008 3:22am
Quoting billbss
I see more misunderstanding about pivots on this thread than I knew existed.

What difference would it make if you plotted a pivot on an IBFX chart as opposed to anyone else's chart?

Regardless who's chart you are using, you can calculate the pivot based upon any 24 hour period you want.

For example, I can use 5PM EST time as the start and stop of my 24 hour day, regardless who's chart I'm using- or 0000 GMT or 0800 GMT or any other time I want.

Where do you get that the big boys are "adjusting" the pivot points to a certain time? We don't talk about what me or you are doing with pivot but what the market makers do. Of course you can set it to whatever time you want, but it is the observation of different times that tells you, which of the times works the best in what time. And from my observation, the GMT0 pivots work quite well at least till the NY session starts at 13.00GMT.

And i mentioned IBFX, because not every pivot point indicator can be adjusted (in fact, i have found only one and beside this adjusting, it was less comfortable to me as the other ones without this option).
  • #111
  • Jan 31, 2008 4:50am Jan 31, 2008 4:50am
Quoting mades
Where do you get that the big boys are "adjusting" the pivot points to a certain time? We don't talk about what me or you are doing with pivot but what the market makers do. Of course you can set it to whatever time you want, but it is the observation of different times that tells you, which of the times works the best in what time. And from my observation, the GMT0 pivots work quite well at least till the NY session starts at 13.00GMT.

And i mentioned IBFX, because not every pivot point indicator can be adjusted (in fact, i have found only one and beside this adjusting, it was less comfortable to me as the other ones without this option).

I don't know what you mean by adjust. You don't adjust the pivot, you calculate it.

Big boys, little boys and medium sized boys have no choice but to choose the time of their calculation.


There are several theories as to which time works best.

There are a number of pivot point indicators with selectable start times. I have three or four different ones.
I don't know what a "comfortable" indicator is. I've never heard of a comfortable indicator before.

You don't even need an indicator. You can calculate them in about two minutes and draw them on your chart with horizontal lines.
  • #112
  • Jan 31, 2008 5:55am Jan 31, 2008 5:55am
Hi TEB,

Nice method you have & yes it works. I have been trading 20+ yrs with 11 yrs in forex & I trained with a trader who now runs a fund. The first thing he introduced me to was the 200EMA & the use of Mov Averages. I have used a similar method starting with the 5M & going forward three time frames. When all agree enter. Adding the 1,2,3 makes it even better.

Is this a perfect system, NO as none are, but it is a very simple & concise method that will work. Will it work for all traders, NO. You can give ten traders a set of rules to a method & all ten will see something different. Case in point the the TURTLE TRADERS by Richard Dennis.

All said & done this is a nice simple method that will work. The 200 MA is on the minds of traders of all levels from the Banks & Funds on down to the retail trader. Is that their sole method, NO, but it is in the mix.

Thanks TED for another simple & chart clean method. Keep the ideas flowing & you just might find something for all TRADERS. Just my most humble views.

AceTrader
  • #113
  • Jan 31, 2008 6:56am Jan 31, 2008 6:56am
Quoting acetrader
Hi TEB,

Nice method you have & yes it works. I have been trading 20+ yrs with 11 yrs in forex & I trained with a trader who now runs a fund. The first thing he introduced me to was the 200EMA & the use of Mov Averages. I have used a similar method starting with the 5M & going forward three time frames. When all agree enter. Adding the 1,2,3 makes it even better.

Is this a perfect system, NO as none are, but it is a very simple & concise method that will work. Will it work for all traders, NO. You can give ten traders a set of rules to a method & all ten will see something different. Case in point the the TURTLE TRADERS by Richard Dennis.

All said & done this is a nice simple method that will work. The 200 MA is on the minds of traders of all levels from the Banks & Funds on down to the retail trader. Is that their sole method, NO, but it is in the mix.

Thanks TED for another simple & chart clean method. Keep the ideas flowing & you just might find something for all TRADERS. Just my most humble views.

AceTrader
thanks

Yes I just added two of the best & oldest trading ideas together
(though I am sure I am not the 1st person to do it.
but it has worked for me for years)

TEB
  • #114
  • Jan 31, 2008 6:59am Jan 31, 2008 6:59am
Teb
great system
can you recommend which TF`s are the best
daily - 4hr - 30 min?
weekly - 4hr - 30 min?
or any others that you think?
cheers
  • #115
  • Jan 31, 2008 6:59am Jan 31, 2008 6:59am
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how? right!

This is why I stay away from interest rate stuff
esp with NFP coming !!
  • #116
  • Jan 31, 2008 7:00am Jan 31, 2008 7:00am
Quoting logical1
nice call Teb
yes I got this one too

teb
  • #117
  • Jan 31, 2008 7:03am Jan 31, 2008 7:03am
Quoting croesesFX
Teb
great system
can you recommend which TF`s are the best
daily - 4hr - 30 min?
weekly - 4hr - 30 min?
or any others that you think?
cheers
I am mostly looking at week, day, 4 hour
( was looking at month, week, day but thats a little long
but I think it would work for day trader need BIG BIG SL & TP)
esp. as the markets are all over the place right now
I find it very easy pickings with those 3 time

I normaly do 4 hour 1 hour 15 mins
But not right now

TEB
  • #118
  • Jan 31, 2008 7:06am Jan 31, 2008 7:06am
Quoting TEB63
I am mostly looking at week, day, 4 hour
( was looking at month, week, day but thats a little long
but I think it would work for day trader need BIG BIG SL & TP)
esp. as the markets are all over the place right now
I find it very easy pickings with those 3 time

I normaly do 4 hour 1 hour 15 mins
But not right now

TEB
Thanks Teb
will try out
  • #119
  • Jan 31, 2008 7:13am Jan 31, 2008 7:13am
Quoting billbss
I don't know what you mean by adjust. You don't adjust the pivot, you calculate it.

Big boys, little boys and medium sized boys have no choice but to choose the time of their calculation.


There are several theories as to which time works best.

There are a number of pivot point indicators with selectable start times. I have three or four different ones.
I don't know what a "comfortable" indicator is. I've never heard of a comfortable indicator before.

You don't even need an indicator. You can calculate them in about two minutes and draw them on your chart with horizontal lines.
"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."

It's a pity to see such an arrogance here.
  • #120
  • Jan 31, 2008 7:59am Jan 31, 2008 7:59am
Quoting acetrader
Hi TEB,

Nice method you have & yes it works. I have been trading 20+ yrs with 11 yrs in forex & I trained with a trader who now runs a fund. The first thing he introduced me to was the 200EMA & the use of Mov Averages. I have used a similar method starting with the 5M & going forward three time frames. When all agree enter. Adding the 1,2,3 makes it even better.

Is this a perfect system, NO as none are, but it is a very simple & concise method that will work. Will it work for all traders, NO. You can give ten traders a set of rules to a method & all ten will see something different. Case in point the the TURTLE TRADERS by Richard Dennis.

All said & done this is a nice simple method that will work. The 200 MA is on the minds of traders of all levels from the Banks & Funds on down to the retail trader. Is that their sole method, NO, but it is in the mix.

Thanks TED for another simple & chart clean method. Keep the ideas flowing & you just might find something for all TRADERS. Just my most humble views.

AceTrader

I forgot to ask
so you do 5 min, 15 min, 1hour , 4 hour?

Is it safe to say the 5 min is for ins & outs?
do you have any other tricks you do?

thanks

TEB
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