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  • #81
  • Dec 27, 2007 11:40am Dec 27, 2007 11:40am
Quoting Eklavya
Hello Everyone,

Is there any way we can change timefames for vhand expert advisor so we can draw fibs, S/R lines etc on higher timeframes and trade on lower? Sorry, if this has been answered earlier. I have not been able to find out an answer for quite sometime....
No, this cannot be done. Strategy tester runs in one timeframe, and that's it, sorry.
  • #82
  • Edited 12:02pm Dec 27, 2007 11:47am | Edited 12:02pm
Quoting Jared
I can't seem to modify the stoploss correctly. It keeps telling me "Incorrect stoploss". What I am trying to do is when the price moves in my favor to move the stoploss past breakeven, in the money. Only, it doesn't work. Price moves back past the stoploss and it doesn't trigger it. It seems to work if it is far away from the price action, but if it is within 10 pips or so it doesn't work. Why? What am I doing wrong?

Also, what is with the 3 different lines under each command (the dotted, solid, and dot-dash lines)?
If you hold your cursor over a line, you'll get the name of it, with SL, TP, or OP at the end. You can guess what they stand for.

You can't place a stop within 5 pips of current price, that's not allowed in MT4. Remember that your chart shows bid prices, so you could be too close when it seems otherwise.
  • #83
  • Dec 27, 2007 12:00pm Dec 27, 2007 12:00pm
Quoting blueruby
No, this cannot be done. Strategy tester runs in one timeframe, and that's it, sorry.
Thank you Blueruby for the answer.

Don't you face this limitation while using vhands? if yes, how do you circumvent this problem?

Are there any other such simulators that can help back test a discretionary trading strategy like price action?
  • #84
  • Edited 9:25am Dec 28, 2007 9:12am | Edited 9:25am
BlueRuby: Apologies for not having read far enough in skunny's thread to find the answer: The hard drive was full.

If you have the same problem as me with vHands, i.e. full hard drive, the solution can be found in skunny's thread: Indicator Free Trading, page 41, in post #609 by bahtiaashish007:

In order to delete the (GIGANTIC) offending files go to: C:\Program Files\ [your version of MT4]\ Testor\Logs... and delete the gigantic file(s).

This should return hard drive to a normal state.
  • #85
  • Dec 28, 2007 1:53pm Dec 28, 2007 1:53pm
Hello, great tool and great thread
is it possible to prevent vHands from writing this big *.log file on the hard drive?
And second thing: Is it possible to speed it up, because it is rather slow on H4 and very slow on Daily.
  • #86
  • Dec 28, 2007 3:41pm Dec 28, 2007 3:41pm
Quoting karol85
Hello, great tool and great thread
is it possible to prevent vHands from writing this big *.log file on the hard drive?
Woke up this morning, and my entire hard disc was full. Couldn't believe it. 100 Gigs or so. FOund out that vHands wrote a 57 gig log file on my computer. Don't know why, but if u are running out of storage, i suspect it is because of this.

Never saw a 57 gig file before....

thanks Blue for all your help in pointing out this great program...

Jimno
  • #87
  • Dec 28, 2007 10:40pm Dec 28, 2007 10:40pm
Quoting james275
Woke up this morning, and my entire hard disc was full. Couldn't believe it. 100 Gigs or so. FOund out that vHands wrote a 57 gig log file on my computer. Don't know why, but if u are running out of storage, i suspect it is because of this.

Never saw a 57 gig file before....

thanks Blue for all your help in pointing out this great program...

Jimno
Where did it place the file?
  • #88
  • Dec 29, 2007 8:17am Dec 29, 2007 8:17am
Quoting brucewhain
BlueRuby: Apologies for not having read far enough in skunny's thread to find the answer: The hard drive was full.

If you have the same problem as me with vHands, i.e. full hard drive, the solution can be found in skunny's thread: Indicator Free Trading, page 41, in post #609 by bahtiaashish007:

In order to delete the (GIGANTIC) offending files go to: C:\Program Files\ [your version of MT4]\ Testor\Logs... and delete the gigantic file(s).

This should return hard drive to a normal state.
I only have a 2Kb and a 3Kb file in there.

Here are the entire contents of one:

12:42:22 vHandsTrade: loaded successfully
12:42:22 TestGenerator: unmatched data error (volume limit 4248 at 2007.03.05 20:00 exceeded)
12:42:22 TestGenerator: unmatched data error (volume limit 4248 at 2007.03.05 20:00 exceeded)
12:42:22 TestGenerator: unmatched data error (volume limit 4248 at 2007.03.05 20:00 exceeded)
12:42:22 TestGenerator: unmatched data error (volume limit 4248 at 2007.03.05 20:00 exceeded)
12:42:22 TestGenerator: unmatched data error (volume limit 4248 at 2007.03.05 20:00 exceeded)
12:42:22 TestGenerator: unmatched data error (volume limit 4248 at 2007.03.05 20:00 exceeded)
12:42:22 TestGenerator: unmatched data error (volume limit 4248 at 2007.03.05 20:00 exceeded)
12:42:22 TestGenerator: unmatched data error (volume limit 4248 at 2007.03.05 20:00 exceeded)
12:42:22 TestGenerator: unmatched data error (volume limit 4248 at 2007.03.05 20:00 exceeded)
12:42:30 vHandsTrade inputs: CommentsCount=10; TerminalRows=50; HistoryRows=50; SignalPoints=10;
12:44:38 2007.01.01 23:57 vHandsTrade GBPJPYm,H4: open #1 sell 0.60 GBPJPYm at 233.43 sl: 233.93 ok
12:44:38 2007.01.02 00:10 vHandsTrade GBPJPYm,H4: OrderModify error 130
12:44:50 2007.01.02 00:10 vHandsTrade GBPJPYm,H4: OrderModify error 130
12:44:50 2007.01.02 00:10 vHandsTrade GBPJPYm,H4: OrderModify error 130
12:44:50 2007.01.02 00:11 vHandsTrade GBPJPYm,H4: OrderModify error 130
12:44:50 2007.01.02 00:11 vHandsTrade GBPJPYm,H4: OrderModify error 130
12:44:50 2007.01.02 00:11 vHandsTrade GBPJPYm,H4: OrderModify error 130
12:44:50 2007.01.02 00:12 vHandsTrade GBPJPYm,H4: OrderModify error 130
12:44:50 2007.01.02 00:12 vHandsTrade GBPJPYm,H4: OrderModify error 130
12:44:50 2007.01.02 00:12 vHandsTrade GBPJPYm,H4: OrderModify error 130
12:44:50 2007.01.02 00:13 vHandsTrade GBPJPYm,H4: OrderModify error 130
12:44:50 2007.01.02 00:13 vHandsTrade GBPJPYm,H4: OrderModify error 130
12:44:51 2007.01.02 00:14 vHandsTrade GBPJPYm,H4: OrderModify error 130
12:45:03 2007.01.02 00:14 vHandsTrade GBPJPYm,H4: modify #1 sell 0.60 GBPJPYm at 233.43 sl: 234.08 tp: 0.00 ok
12:45:03 2007.01.02 00:22 vHandsTrade GBPJPYm,H4: modify #1 sell 0.60 GBPJPYm at 233.43 sl: 235.93 tp: 0.00 ok
12:46:03 2007.01.02 06:31 vHandsTrade GBPJPYm,H4: OrderModify error 130
12:46:03 2007.01.02 06:31 vHandsTrade GBPJPYm,H4: OrderModify error 130
12:46:03 2007.01.02 06:31 vHandsTrade GBPJPYm,H4: OrderModify error 130
12:46:03 2007.01.02 06:31 vHandsTrade GBPJPYm,H4: OrderModify error 130
12:46:03 2007.01.02 06:31 vHandsTrade GBPJPYm,H4: OrderModify error 130
12:46:03 2007.01.02 06:31 vHandsTrade GBPJPYm,H4: OrderModify error 130
12:46:03 2007.01.02 06:31 vHandsTrade GBPJPYm,H4: OrderModify error 130
12:58:23 2007.01.02 06:31 Tester: order #1 is closed
13:05:47 vHandsTrade GBPJPYm,H4: removed


It was a very short run, just a test of improper stops to answer a post above. But, notice that the majority of space is taken by error notes.

If you give it an improper input, it will write to the log on every tick for as long as that request exists. Otherwise it only writes an entry for each action you take, and that should result in a small file.

Make sure you are pausing before every action you take.

The entries also appear in the upper left corner of the screen, so if you're getting constant writes on your screen you know you'll have a huge log file being created.

Also note that once that area on the screen fills up its 10 lines, it will not appear to change, but it could still be writing thousands of lines.
  • #89
  • Dec 29, 2007 12:27pm Dec 29, 2007 12:27pm
Yes, I noticed that same error repeated a lot but can't figure out what causes it since always stop before I trade. Otherwise, get several trades at once - which is intuitive 'cause by that time I'm usually angry and decide not to bother stopping. At any rate, am glad to know where to find the gigantic file. (Every time I've make six trades at once due to not pausing have ended up with a huge win - possibly beginnings of a new Martingale method lol.)
  • #90
  • Dec 29, 2007 12:30pm Dec 29, 2007 12:30pm
Quoting brucewhain
Yes, I noticed that same error repeated a lot but can't figure out what causes it since always stop before I trade. Otherwise, get several trades at once - which is intuitive 'cause by that time I'm usually angry and decide not to bother stopping.
I'm guessing most of that huge file contains the same statement over and over.

Open it with a txt editor and post that line, maybe we can figure out what's going wrong. There are several people who are having the problem.
  • #91
  • Dec 29, 2007 2:04pm Dec 29, 2007 2:04pm
I found a solution to the problem of ugly big *.log file.
Here it is:

Delete or comment all calls of Print function in files vHansTrade.mq4 and VisualTestingTools.mq4. So for examplie it there is
Print("OrderSelect( ", z, ", SELECT_BY_POS, MODE_HISTORY ) - Error #",
_GetLastError); change it for
/* Print("OrderSelect( ", z, ", SELECT_BY_POS, MODE_HISTORY ) - Error #",
_GetLastError); */

Do it in Metaeditor. Hit F5 to recompile vHansTrade.mq4
Hope it helps, works perfectly for me.

Almost forgot: always have vTerminal and vHistory indicators added on your chart when doing simulation, because not having them added also causes errors in *.log file
  • #92
  • Dec 29, 2007 3:00pm Dec 29, 2007 3:00pm
Quoting blueruby
I'm guessing most of that huge file contains the same statement over and over.

Open it with a txt editor and post that line, maybe we can figure out what's going wrong. There are several people who are having the problem.
In my log folder i had 3 files. 2 were small ones and the one was 57 Gig. THis is a lot of data and i deleted it and didn't go through it to see what it was. I wonder if it was recording every tic..... I'll keep an eye on the folder.

Jimno
  • #93
  • Dec 29, 2007 3:06pm Dec 29, 2007 3:06pm
Quoting karol85
I found a solution to the problem of ugly big *.log file.
Here it is:

Delete or comment all calls of Print function in files vHansTrade.mq4 and VisualTestingTools.mq4. So for examplie it there is
Print("OrderSelect( ", z, ", SELECT_BY_POS, MODE_HISTORY ) - Error #",
_GetLastError); change it for
/* Print("OrderSelect( ", z, ", SELECT_BY_POS, MODE_HISTORY ) - Error #",
_GetLastError); */

Do it in Metaeditor. Hit F5 to recompile vHansTrade.mq4
Hope it helps, works perfectly for me.

Almost forgot: always have vTerminal and vHistory indicators added on your chart when doing simulation, because not having them added also causes errors in *.log file
This is a good point. Those few that are having problems might not be set up correctly.

I think if the errors are eliminated, the log file will be very small, and deleting all the print statements won't be necessary.
  • #94
  • Dec 29, 2007 4:12pm Dec 29, 2007 4:12pm
For me deleting them was neccasary.
Most error lines come from print statements and with such modification this simulator is just a lot more stable and wont blow up windows, because you accidentely throw buy order without pausing simulation.

One more assumption (Maybe those who don't experience this problem just got a lot of free space on hard drives? )
And BTW nice to know that this mql is so simillar to C.
I'll post my modified files here if someone isn't familliar with programming, still you have to replace the original files and compile (F5) vHandsTrade.mq4 in metaeditor.
PS: Why Rar attachments are forbidden? Strange ... So here goes in Zip
Attached File(s)
File Type: zip vHands_no_monstrual_log_file.zip   14 KB | 1,210 downloads
  • #95
  • Dec 29, 2007 7:13pm Dec 29, 2007 7:13pm
Hi traders,
This is my first post to this thread, maybe any thread since being a member here at FF for around 2 years. I just like to stay in the background and learn but I had to post this as it was a trial for me until I found out....from remembering some of what a good friend told me (thanks Walt W.) that I needed to get history from metaquotes. For those of you who don't know it, maybe all of you excluding me did , you can hit F2 (thanks for the function key blue) select the group and pair and timeframe and hit download. It will take a few minutes depending on your pc, but then you can go back farther. It still may not go as far as you want but if not, then it's out of my league!! Mine only went back to June of 07 before I downloaded the data.

BTW...I really have been soaking up the post that got me here on indicator free trading by Skunny! A lot like my mentor Chris Lori taught me about price but at another angle.

Dan
  • #96
  • Dec 30, 2007 6:05am Dec 30, 2007 6:05am
Quoting karol85
One more assumption (Maybe those who don't experience this problem just got a lot of free space on hard drives? )
My log files are 2 - 3 K. Not gig, not meg, kilobytes.
  • #97
  • Dec 30, 2007 3:52pm Dec 30, 2007 3:52pm
Quote
Blueruby:
Open it with txt Editor and post that line maybe we can figure out what's going on...

Can't post any files this week 'cause haven't been able to get to vHands. Will try downloading the zip, many thanks. It's something to know how to do that. Doubt I would have been able to follow instructions to post part of the file!

Also, have been testing without the two indicator windows on occasion so that might be the reason too. (You may notice I can't transfer the quote to the box without writing it out either.)http://www.forexfactory.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
  • #98
  • Dec 31, 2007 5:55am Dec 31, 2007 5:55am
Quoting blueruby
My log files are 2 - 3 K. Not gig, not meg, kilobytes.
So, good for you But try for example placing the limit oder too close to the market. Then your log will be not kilos, not megs but gig.
PS: Happy New Year for you guys. And take some rest from forex and vHands.
  • #99
  • Dec 31, 2007 7:07am Dec 31, 2007 7:07am
Quoting karol85
So, good for you But try for example placing the limit oder too close to the market. Then your log will be not kilos, not megs but gig.
PS: Happy New Year for you guys. And take some rest from forex and vHands.
I'm not sure why you would do that, and why you would not correct it, but I agree that if you have an error condition, vhands seems to run in an infinite loop. I think it doesn't write it every tick, I think it writes on every pass through the program while it waits for ticks.

If you remove the print commands, do the error messages still appear in the upper left part of the screen?

If this is the case, I think it's a bad idea because you won't know why it's not working.
  • #100
  • Jan 1, 2008 5:01pm Jan 1, 2008 5:01pm
Quoting blueruby
Error 4202 is "object does not exist".

The program has code to handle this error when it occurs.

Does vHands run for you at all?
it runs...sometimes..it seems it will not run using the gu 15min chart..not sure whats going on...i'll go back and re-read.
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