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  • #61
  • Dec 20, 2007 5:06am Dec 20, 2007 5:06am
Hey guys and gals, I just remembered something from way back when I used to do a lot of backtesting with strategy tester...

Try this and see if it helps

Pull down "tools" "options" then go to "charts" tab.

For "max bars in history" click it up to the highest one. You can also enter a larger number.

This should make it so that the lower timeframes go back farther in history.

This will also make ALL your charts load slower and change timeframes slower, so when you're done with vHands, go back and change your chart bars to a lower number.
  • #62
  • Dec 21, 2007 12:07am Dec 21, 2007 12:07am
blueruby, thanks for your efforts here .

Does anyone know if it is possible to change the default account balance that is used/shown in the vTerminal?
  • #63
  • Dec 21, 2007 4:55am Dec 21, 2007 4:55am
Quoting Oromis
blueruby, thanks for your efforts here .

Does anyone know if it is possible to change the default account balance that is used/shown in the vTerminal?
Before you start, click on "expert properties", then use the "testing" tab to select initial deposit.
  • #64
  • Dec 21, 2007 6:15am Dec 21, 2007 6:15am
Thank you.
  • #65
  • Dec 21, 2007 1:48pm Dec 21, 2007 1:48pm
Quoting blueruby
Well, that's the age-old question, that ranks right up there with "How do you solve a problem like Maria?" and "Why do women rub their eyes in the morning?" (that second one has been solved, btw).

I think it is not available. Just try the 1 hour or 4 hour and see how you like them.
Thank you for your help.i have one more quetion.You said to delete old data whenever u start with start button fresh data will come.i am facing new problem.whenever i open this vhands simulator my comp immediately starts showing that disc is full.Inspite of cleaning by disk cleaning wizard i am not able to increase disc space.how do i delete old imported data from vhands simulator?Is my problem realted to vhands or anything else.plaase help.
  • #66
  • Dec 22, 2007 10:58am Dec 22, 2007 10:58am
Does anybody know of a hot key to pause vhands, instead of having to call up my tester window every time?
  • #67
  • Dec 23, 2007 7:31am Dec 23, 2007 7:31am
Quoting bhatiaashish007
Thank you for your help.i have one more quetion.You said to delete old data whenever u start with start button fresh data will come.i am facing new problem.whenever i open this vhands simulator my comp immediately starts showing that disc is full.Inspite of cleaning by disk cleaning wizard i am not able to increase disc space.how do i delete old imported data from vhands simulator?Is my problem realted to vhands or anything else.plaase help.
I said to delete old charts.

If your disk is full, then clear some space.
  • #68
  • Dec 23, 2007 2:18pm Dec 23, 2007 2:18pm
I'm having trouble placing orders while using the Vhands. I read your instructions...

"Now select the middle line under "Buy" (solid line). Once it's selected, click on the middle white squeare and move it onto the screen.

Select the number of lots you want, then drag it onto the screen. If you do not make a selection, the number which is purple is what you get.

If you don't want a trailing stop, select the "0" to the right of TS, then drag it onto the screen. If you want a trailing stop, select a number and drag it in.

If you want to place the stop, select the dot-dash line below Buy, then drag it to the screen at the point where you want the stop.

Otherwise you can select a number of pips for your stop."


Could you please walk me through the process again. I can't seem to find the middle line under "Buy" (solid line). The Vhands works great, I'm just having trouble figuring out how to place mock orders. THANKS!!!
  • #69
  • Dec 23, 2007 5:17pm Dec 23, 2007 5:17pm
Quoting scottymoll
Could you please walk me through the process again. I can't seem to find the middle line under "Buy" (solid line). The Vhands works great, I'm just having trouble figuring out how to place mock orders. THANKS!!!
See the red arrow.

Underneath is the word buy.

Under the word are three lines, I have selected the solid one and the white squares have appeared.
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  • #70
  • Dec 23, 2007 10:48pm Dec 23, 2007 10:48pm
Ahh haa!! That's why I couldn't place orders. I didn't even have that box in my chart. I'll go through the setup once more. Thanks for the quick response and all the help between threads. Take care and happy holidays!!!

Quoting blueruby
See the red arrow.

Underneath is the word buy.

Under the word are three lines, I have selected the solid one and the white squares have appeared.
  • #71
  • Dec 24, 2007 4:45pm Dec 24, 2007 4:45pm
Quoting blueruby
Now close your terminal window to make a little room. To do this, look to the left side of the screen at or near the bottom, you'll see in the frame where it says "terminal". Click the x to close it. When you need it back, find the icon, or pull down "view" "terminal".

Now open Strategy Tester, either by using the little icon with the magnifying glass, or pull down "view" "strategy tester".

You'll get a window at the bottom. Make sure it's big enough so you can see everything. This is the strategy tester, and the settings are as follows:

At the top, select vHandsTrade as the Expert Advisor.
In the next window, select your currency pair.
For Model, select "every tick"
Check the box "Use Date" and put in the dates to go from and to.
Check the box "visual mode".
Make sure "optimization" is unchecked at the right.

Then click Start. Wait for it to load the data, your chart will come up and start ticking along.

Notice that there is a speed control bar just to the right of the "Visual Mode" check box. To the right of that is a pause/play button.

Every time you hit start, it will create a new chart. Don't forget to delete the old ones. If you just want to stop temporarily, use pause. If you want to start all over, use Stop and then Start again.
Help Blue...I followed your instructions to the letter..when I look at the journal tab, every entry has an error #4202. Any ideas?
  • #72
  • Dec 25, 2007 7:54pm Dec 25, 2007 7:54pm
Hi there,

Firstly, thank you so much for this wonderful tool. It truely is amazing.

I am hoping that someone can help me with this. In the backtesting method, where you have the option of choosing "every tick" or "open price", if I chose the open price, I am running into some problems. Say, the close of the candle is where I want to place the trade, I bring the buy bar into the screen, and press F12, it places buy at the close of the next bar (open of the second bar after my trigger candle). Is there anyway to over come this issue? I realise that one way is to use "every tick", but I really don't want to be sitting there watching a daily, or 4H candle go up and down until it closes.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
K.
  • #73
  • Dec 26, 2007 3:48am Dec 26, 2007 3:48am
Blue: Am enjoying Skunny's thread but your instructions are the meat of the matter since vHands is indispensible: because i'm making the same mistakes in vHands as in my trading... and am finding ways to avoid them.

But here's the problem:

My broker got taken over and switched servers, so had to download a new MT4 Demo. This one does not contain sufficient data to test in tick mode. My strategy testor won't work with the "every tick" Model, and using the open price Model won't work for me because of the way I trade.

Tried to download Alpari data but the file is too big: When trying to unzip to folder on desktop it generates an error: "Error writing to C: [etc., etc.] Possible Cause: disk full or system limits exceeded."

Am pretty certain this is not because the hard disk is full (but my computer's in Dutch and can't figure out how to check this. Last time I looked it was ok.

Although this may not be within the province of this thread... do you or anyone have any idea for how to change the limit? Trouble is, technical assistance not available on this computer since it was bought used after my stuff was ripped of from a train station locker. Would be grateful for any ideas to get going again in vHands.

Happy Boxing Day, Bruce
  • #74
  • Edited 7:59am Dec 26, 2007 5:01am | Edited 7:59am
Quoting hnic828
Help Blue...I followed your instructions to the letter..when I look at the journal tab, every entry has an error #4202. Any ideas?
Error 4202 is "object does not exist".

The program has code to handle this error when it occurs.

Does vHands run for you at all?
  • #75
  • Dec 26, 2007 7:59am Dec 26, 2007 7:59am
Quoting kermut
Hi there,

Firstly, thank you so much for this wonderful tool. It truely is amazing.

I am hoping that someone can help me with this. In the backtesting method, where you have the option of choosing "every tick" or "open price", if I chose the open price, I am running into some problems. Say, the close of the candle is where I want to place the trade, I bring the buy bar into the screen, and press F12, it places buy at the close of the next bar (open of the second bar after my trigger candle). Is there anyway to over come this issue? I realise that one way is to use "every tick", but I really don't want to be sitting there watching a daily, or 4H candle go up and down until it closes.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
K.
Why use vhands? If you're trading closed candles, you might as well just do it on a chart and skip the complexity of vhands.

The idea of vhands is to see it unfold, the belief being that, trading completed candles doesn't teach you price action.
  • #76
  • Dec 26, 2007 10:29am Dec 26, 2007 10:29am
sidenote : this is a great tool to check if an indicator is repainting or not
  • #77
  • Dec 26, 2007 5:15pm Dec 26, 2007 5:15pm
Quoting blueruby
Why use vhands? If you're trading closed candles, you might as well just do it on a chart and skip the complexity of vhands.

The idea of vhands is to see it unfold, the belief being that, trading completed candles doesn't teach you price action.

Now why didn't I think of that!!!

I originally started using vhands on a 15M chart, and it was great, and I got really good insight into the method I was experimenting on. But I wanted to see how it would perform on a 4H or D chart, as due to work commitments, I seem to be missing a lot of action on the shorter timeframes.

If I do it manually, then I have to enter everything onto a piece of paper, or into excel, and that was what I was trying to avoid.

Lol, looking for an easy way to do the hard things, as usual.

Thanks for your response though.

Regards,
K.
  • #78
  • Dec 26, 2007 5:54pm Dec 26, 2007 5:54pm
Quoting melpheos
sidenote : this is a great tool to check if an indicator is repainting or not
Great tip, thanks! This is something that I have a lack of understanding of (repainting), so I'll give it a whirl and will gain full understanding after seeing it happen.
  • #79
  • Dec 26, 2007 7:59pm Dec 26, 2007 7:59pm
I can't seem to modify the stoploss correctly. It keeps telling me "Incorrect stoploss". What I am trying to do is when the price moves in my favor to move the stoploss past breakeven, in the money. Only, it doesn't work. Price moves back past the stoploss and it doesn't trigger it. It seems to work if it is far away from the price action, but if it is within 10 pips or so it doesn't work. Why? What am I doing wrong?

Also, what is with the 3 different lines under each command (the dotted, solid, and dot-dash lines)?
  • #80
  • Edited 10:03pm Dec 26, 2007 9:15pm | Edited 10:03pm
Hello Everyone,

Is there any way we can change timefames for vhand expert advisor so we can draw fibs, S/R lines etc on higher timeframes and trade on lower? Sorry, if this has been answered earlier. I have not been able to find out an answer for quite sometime....
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