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  • #41
  • Dec 16, 2007 11:12am Dec 16, 2007 11:12am
Thanks for the thread, blue. Saved me hours of wasted time.
  • #42
  • Dec 16, 2007 11:40am Dec 16, 2007 11:40am
Quoting mxsurf
blueruby, thanks for the detail explanation!!

I'm on NF and when I hit the start button the blank graph shoot open but without any candle. I check on the tester's journal tab and it show the following:

2007.12.17 00:27:15 vHandsTrade: loaded successfully
2007.12.17 00:27:15 TestGenerator: no history data 'USDCAD30'
2007.12.17 00:27:33 TestGenerator: no history data 'USDCAD30'

Any idea what went wrong?

Appreciate your help!
Check the dates you're trying to use. There is a limited amount of intraday data and you may not have it, iow, no history. Try the same dates with daily and see if it works. If so, then load up a 30 min chart and see how much 30 min data you can download by hitting "home" over and over again until it stops loading data.
  • #43
  • Dec 16, 2007 11:43am Dec 16, 2007 11:43am
Quoting mxsurf
blueruby, thanks for the detail explanation!!

I'm on NF and when I hit the start button the blank graph shoot open but without any candle. I check on the tester's journal tab and it show the following:

2007.12.17 00:27:15 vHandsTrade: loaded successfully
2007.12.17 00:27:15 TestGenerator: no history data 'USDCAD30'
2007.12.17 00:27:33 TestGenerator: no history data 'USDCAD30'

Any idea what went wrong?

Appreciate your help!
What is NF?

Try this, I have no idea if it will work, it's the only idea I have.

Hit F2 to open up your history center.
Select that pair and open the folder
Select the 1M and download.
Do it for the 30M also, then try again to run it.

I don't know if this is the problem. Strategy tester should, I think, fetch this data on its own before running. Does the bar at the bottom do anything when you hit start? Mine gives some messages about getting or using the M1, M5 etc., data.
  • #44
  • Dec 16, 2007 11:44am Dec 16, 2007 11:44am
Quoting Dopey
Check the dates you're trying to use. There is a limited amount of intraday data and you may not have it, iow, no history. Try the same dates with daily and see if it works. If so, then load up a 30 min chart and see how much 30 min data you can download by hitting "home" over and over again until it stops loading data.
Ah yes, that could be it as well. Try the 1H or 4H and see if it runs. Or set the dates so that it doesn't go back as far.
  • #45
  • Dec 16, 2007 3:33pm Dec 16, 2007 3:33pm
Thanks so much for getting this on a thread. I really appreciate it and it fills a major need for me....

my best

Jimno
  • #46
  • Dec 16, 2007 6:59pm Dec 16, 2007 6:59pm
blueruby & dopey, many thanks for your reply. I manage to get it working this morning when I run it again, I guess is the date that gives the problem. Very cool indeed the simulator.

Btw, NF = north finance.

Keep it up!!
  • #47
  • Dec 16, 2007 8:14pm Dec 16, 2007 8:14pm
Ya know, there's an advantage to watching these candles moving at warp speed that I don't think you can reproduce doing live trades. I think the reason I'm doing better is because you get a sense of momentum when the thing is in fast-forward that's much harder to pick up when watching it in realtime- especially on a four hour candle. The psych factor is another issue, as you say.

Hopefully with practice it won't come so much into play and it can be picked up just on the appearance of the candles.

Quoting blueruby
No kidding!

I've been thinking all afternoon, "gee, if I could trade like this for real, I'd be smokin'". Then, "why can't I? what's going on here?".

There may be some deception to it, since, played at full speed, the 4 hour bars take maybe 5 minutes. But, it's not the same as a 5M chart, it's like a very well-mannered 5m chart.

In real life, if I had to wait 4 hours for every one of these, the psych factor might take hold. I'll have to see how the practice changes my viewpoint.
Is your SL my TP?
  • #48
  • Dec 16, 2007 8:16pm Dec 16, 2007 8:16pm
The vTerminal indicator does not show up on my list of custom indicators. I'm using Metatrader 4, the indicator only shows an MQ4 file, no EX4 file and I'm operating Vista. Any suggestions?

Thanks
The road to pipland is arduous and fraught with challenge.
  • #49
  • Dec 16, 2007 8:21pm Dec 16, 2007 8:21pm
Quoting traider
The vTerminal indicator does not show up on my list of custom indicators. I'm using Metatrader 4, the indicator only shows an MQ4 file, no EX4 file and I'm operating Vista. Any suggestions?

Thanks
Make sure it is in the Indicator folder.

Then compile it or shut down MT4 and re-start.

http://forexfactory.com/showpost.php...6&postcount=39

I thought that sounded familiar.
  • #50
  • Dec 16, 2007 9:12pm Dec 16, 2007 9:12pm
When trying to compile, I get the following:

"Start function not found and cannot be run."


Thanks
The road to pipland is arduous and fraught with challenge.
  • #51
  • Dec 17, 2007 5:22am Dec 17, 2007 5:22am
Love the simulator, but seems the data doesn't go very far back. I cant seem to go further than a few months. There has been mention of downloading data, anybody have a clue about this?

Also, I use Metatrader through North Finance, and the folders I installed vhands to were under my North Finance folder. However, I do have that "Forexinterbank" folder that was mentioned, with a bunch of stuff inside I have not needed to tinker with. I'm guessing any data we acquire will go some place in there?
  • #52
  • Dec 17, 2007 6:37am Dec 17, 2007 6:37am
You can go here and download data for the pairs you're interested in:

http://www.alpari-idc.com/en/dc/databank.php

Save it to a folder somewhere handy and unzip them.

Then hit F2 in MT4, to open history center.

Click on "import", then "browse" then change the file type to ".hst", then go to the place you put the data files and hit "open" then "OK".
  • #53
  • Dec 17, 2007 9:51am Dec 17, 2007 9:51am
Quoting traider
When trying to compile, I get the following:

"Start function not found and cannot be run."


Thanks
Check to see that the "VisualTestingTools" file is in the "include" folder.

My best guess.
  • #54
  • Dec 18, 2007 5:01am Dec 18, 2007 5:01am
well great thanks for trading simulator but i am facing a problem In the period section there is no week chart option what do i do to get week chart options?
  • #55
  • Dec 18, 2007 7:25am Dec 18, 2007 7:25am
Quoting bhatiaashish007
well great thanks for trading simulator but i am facing a problem In the period section there is no week chart option what do i do to get week chart options?
Well, that's the age-old question, that ranks right up there with "How do you solve a problem like Maria?" and "Why do women rub their eyes in the morning?" (that second one has been solved, btw).

I think it is not available. Just try the 1 hour or 4 hour and see how you like them.
  • #56
  • Dec 18, 2007 12:13pm Dec 18, 2007 12:13pm
OK thanks for the link Blueruby. I got the data and followed your instructions, I seem to be able to go far back now. I notice when I went way back on 1 min chart though the candles looked really messed up. Strange.

Anyway any clue why alpari gives 2 separate files to download for each pair, the 1 min and 1 day? Why are there just those 2, if they are separating by timeframe? I would think there would be files for each time frame in that case.
  • #57
  • Dec 18, 2007 2:45pm Dec 18, 2007 2:45pm
Quoting 24HourTrader
OK thanks for the link Blueruby. I got the data and followed your instructions, I seem to be able to go far back now. I notice when I went way back on 1 min chart though the candles looked really messed up. Strange.

Anyway any clue why alpari gives 2 separate files to download for each pair, the 1 min and 1 day? Why are there just those 2, if they are separating by timeframe? I would think there would be files for each time frame in that case.
I would think so, too; I don't know the answer. When you open history center (F2) you can view the file, line by line. That might be one way to investigate this.

Maybe Bo can shed some light on it, if he can pull hisself away from that possum stew.
  • #58
  • Dec 18, 2007 6:43pm Dec 18, 2007 6:43pm
Every time I try using 1 min data this thing nearly crashes my computer. I think it is too much for my CPU to handle or something with all those files.
  • #59
  • Dec 18, 2007 8:57pm Dec 18, 2007 8:57pm
Quoting blueruby
No kidding!

I've been thinking all afternoon, "gee, if I could trade like this for real, I'd be smokin'". Then, "why can't I? what's going on here?".
I'm beginning to wonder if this issue might be where the real value in the vhands simulator lies. The information is virtually the same, but our "perception" of it is different.

I traded some old 4H charts from mid 2006 on the GBP/USD. At that time I wasn't using the 4H timeframe at all, so I really didn't remember much about the market other than it seemed like a really range bound summer.

Not bragging at all here because I think several of us have had similar experiences and I'm sure some of you have blown away my numbers... For some reason, on vhands I want to trade nothing but breakouts. It's what "feels" right to me on vhands even though they are NOT my style in live trading. Anyway, my trading was flawless. I didn't lose a single one for months... bearing in mind that I was trading breakouts during a period known for range bound conditions! Max drawdown was 63 pips and profits were in the thousands even though I closed every trade very conservatively. I rarely let any ride longer than one candle.

On top of that, I'm trading on much less information. News is unavailable. Other timeframes are a pain so I'm basically just watching the momentum on the 4H chart. A few S/R lines and that's it.

Hmmmm....
  • #60
  • Dec 19, 2007 3:21am Dec 19, 2007 3:21am
I know what you mean, sm31.

I seem to have caught a case of big-move-itis again. Or it's my old chronic case flaring up, as a result of catching all those 400 - 1000 pip moves on vHands.

For my trading style, I have to take my profits and forget all about big moves. I'd probably be retired from trading by now if I would just do that.

When I hold out for more, it's not my game, and I lose.

I lucked out like crazy this morning. Looking at G/J 4 hour, bought at the bottom of the range. Had 26 pips, that was well beyond my 1% daily target and I could be in bed snoozing now. Then things went south.

When it got to within 1 pip of my stop, I lowered my t/p to 20 and went to bed. I didn't want to watch. I laid down and reviewed my mistakes, knew that I still wasn't quite ready yet, reviewed my rules mentally. I warmed up, got up to face the music, and low and behold, within 5 minutes it had shot up, hit my t/p to within 1 pip and dropped like a rock.

I'll take a lucky shot when I can get it.

AND I WILL NEVER AGAIN COMPLAIN ABOUT MY STOP GETTING HIT TO THE PIP AND THEN PRICE GOES MY WAY.
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