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Help Needed for Creation.....

  • #1
  • First Post: Dec 14, 2007 7:01am Dec 14, 2007 7:01am
To any interested and Capable MT4 EA programmer.

My Aim in creating this thread is to find someone capable of Programming an EA is accordance to the rules I have prepaired.
As I have no knowledge of programming I am unable to do this myself I have dicided to 'advertise'.
The is no monnetary payment for Assisting in the EA's creation, But I can guarentee that If my rules are possible to implament you will have a working and profitable EA for your personal use.

Please note, This will NOT be a hedging EA, no martangle involved, no negative R:R.

There are only 2 indicators involved and is bases around very simple PA and momentum.

Anyone interested please post here or PM me to enquire.

Thanx, LG
  • #2
  • Dec 14, 2007 6:09pm Dec 14, 2007 6:09pm
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  • #3
  • Dec 14, 2007 9:04pm Dec 14, 2007 9:04pm
LoLoAC,

If you find a sucker, sent them my way, I've got a heap of
programming work that I want done for free!

Any volunteers?

Coder
  • #4
  • Dec 15, 2007 4:54pm Dec 15, 2007 4:54pm
Quoting Coder
LoLoAC,

If you find a sucker, sent them my way, I've got a heap of
programming work that I want done for free!

Any volunteers?

Coder
Well, thanx's for destroying my chances here.

It wouldnt have been free as'such, because the taker would have had a working EA to add to whatever they already have.
Im sure every coder would like a working system to code, yes?

Your comment realy suprised me.

LG
  • #5
  • Dec 15, 2007 10:19pm Dec 15, 2007 10:19pm
LoLoAC,

I would normally keep my opinions to myself, but in this case your
post hit a raw nerve. It just doesn't seem very fair.

You would receive an EA for free, which you would either trade for
profit, or sell commercially.

The programmer would have to invest many hours working, then take
a risk the that the EA would be profitable, then provide their own
capital to trade the strategy in order to be compensated for the work.
On top of that, you restrict them to only using for personal use!

The way I see it, you have a few options:

1/ Pay a programmer to do the work. The work is yours, the intellectual
property rights are yours, and the risk that it will work is yours.

2/ Post your strategy here to generate some interest.
If the strategy is good enough and shows potential, then you will receive
many offers from programmers to code this strategy for you at no cost.

3/ Enter into a partnership with the programmer, so that if the EA is
to be sold commercially, the programmer will provide support and upgrades,
you would handle the day to day sales and marketing, and you both
benefit from the proceeds.

If you pitched your idea in any of these ways, I'm sure that your project
would be successful.

Good luck, I really do hope you find someone to assist you, and that
it's fair for all parties concerned.

Coder
  • #6
  • Dec 16, 2007 12:39am Dec 16, 2007 12:39am
Quoting Coder
LoLoAC,

I would normally keep my opinions to myself, but in this case your
post hit a raw nerve. It just doesn't seem very fair.

You would receive an EA for free, which you would either trade for
profit, or sell commercially.

The programmer would have to invest many hours working, then take
a risk the that the EA would be profitable, then provide their own
capital to trade the strategy in order to be compensated for the work.
On top of that, you restrict them to only using for personal use!

The way I see it, you have a few options:

1/ Pay a programmer to do the work. The work is yours, the intellectual
property rights are yours, and the risk that it will work is yours.

2/ Post your strategy here to generate some interest.
If the strategy is good enough and shows potential, then you will receive
many offers from programmers to code this strategy for you at no cost.

3/ Enter into a partnership with the programmer, so that if the EA is
to be sold commercially, the programmer will provide support and upgrades,
you would handle the day to day sales and marketing, and you both
benefit from the proceeds.

If you pitched your idea in any of these ways, I'm sure that your project
would be successful.

Good luck, I really do hope you find someone to assist you, and that
it's fair for all parties concerned.

Coder
Coder,

Well, I think It would have been best for you to voice these points in your initial post. Honestly I do agree with some of your points above and It is good to hear an others opinion.
Please take in to consideration that I would have been sharing something that I have made myslef and acheived what so many fail to do

'slowly over afew years of research' and 'nights of eyes held open by toothpicks'

There are no set rules you are given when you begin trading, none that will make you money atleast. Programing has rules, and im sure there will be a document that explaines how to, propperly. Not to say it isnt difficult, or time consuming.

Since I made my post I have actualy started looking at some free EA's i have found over the net, just to have a look at the code. Wow, thats alot of random letters that I dont understand, some 500lines of code....... and they dont even work, lol.
But I may have a look around and try to learn to code myself, Im sure it will take me over 6 months though.

Also, The reason that I expressed that the EA would only be for personal use is that I beleive, If you have something that truely works then there is no need to sell it, I have no need to make money from EA sales.
And aswell as that I beleive that every man needs to earn what he has, Im sorry and it may sound selfish, But I would never freely give away something I worked hard to create (once again, I had no rule book) to a forum full of people that DONT need spooning the answers, If they deserve it and put in the work then they will acheive all that they dream of.

Publishing Rules freely on forum just meens that this will be coded on the sly and I will receive nothing but the feeling that many have aquired what I had to work for years to, which I suspect would quite sicken me.

I feel like after writing all that I sound like an old grumpy sad man, but I can asure you that is not me. I love life and most of the time it loves me back. I hope you can see my points from a fair angle even if you dont agree.

Good trading

LG
  • #7
  • Dec 16, 2007 2:00am Dec 16, 2007 2:00am
Hello LG,

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

The best thing you could do to further your trading is to learn to
program trading strategies with MQL4.

It will give you total control over your strategy, and you won't have the
limitation of relying on someone else to do the work for you.
You can also keep the strategy proprietary and have the full benefit of
you hard work.

I agree that if you have a profitable EA there is no need to sell it.
I'm glad that your not going commercial.

The main problem that I have personally fallen victim to over the years
is that many people promise profitability, but when is all said and done,
my bank account is no better off, and a lot of time has been wasted.

Congratulations on finding a profitable strategy, now you need to
concentrate on stage 2, and that is automating it to reduce the
number of hours spent in front of the screen.

If you require any help or advice on learning to program,
I would be happy to assist where I can.
Send me a PM if you get stuck and I will give you my email address.

Good luck

Coder
  • #8
  • Last Post: Dec 16, 2007 10:53am Dec 16, 2007 10:53am
Quoting LoLoAC
To any interested and Capable MT4 EA programmer.

My Aim in creating this thread is to find someone capable of Programming an EA is accordance to the rules I have prepaired.
As I have no knowledge of programming I am unable to do this myself I have dicided to 'advertise'.
The is no monnetary payment for Assisting in the EA's creation, But I can guarentee that If my rules are possible to implament you will have a working and profitable EA for your personal use.

Please note, This will NOT be a hedging EA, no martangle involved, no negative R:R.

There are only 2 indicators involved and is bases around very simple PA and momentum.

Anyone interested please post here or PM me to enquire.

Thanx, LG
as technical guy who has been taken advantage of by the "business development people", i total understand how coder feels. we do the work and the sales/ bd takes the credit and takes the money.

however, i am curently doing my master's thesis in computer science and developing rule base logic to enter and exit the forex market; therefore any and all idea and sugestion are welcome.

if you allow me to use your ideas, if i like them (i will give you credit for it), i will take the time to write the EA - its a win-win solution.

if you like these terms, please send me post a reply or send a private message to me.

matt
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