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  • #21
  • Dec 2, 2007 12:20am Dec 2, 2007 12:20am
Where are you getting this information? Is there a link?

Quoting melpheos
He just rounded 1000% at the end of this week... Amazing results
  • #22
  • Dec 2, 2007 2:08am Dec 2, 2007 2:08am
Quoting tdion
Where are you getting this information? Is there a link?
http://championship.mql4.com/2007/users/Better

Just check his equity... Starting account value was 10000$ and it's now 105000$+... That's 1050%
  • #23
  • Dec 4, 2007 7:21am Dec 4, 2007 7:21am
Quoting melpheos
http://championship.mql4.com/2007/users/Better

Just check his equity... Starting account value was 10000$ and it's now 105000$+... That's 1050%
1130% now, keep growing... I wish i had this EA starting with my present equity i could pay back my loan in one week ^^
  • #24
  • Dec 4, 2007 7:58am Dec 4, 2007 7:58am
Oh.... I thought the championship was over. They still keep trading though?

Quoting melpheos
http://championship.mql4.com/2007/users/Better

Just check his equity... Starting account value was 10000$ and it's now 105000$+... That's 1050%
  • #25
  • Dec 4, 2007 8:20am Dec 4, 2007 8:20am
Quoting tdion
Oh.... I thought the championship was over. They still keep trading though?
"The Championship starts on the 1st of October 2007 and finishes on the 21st of December 2007."

From the Rules link of the website
  • #26
  • Dec 4, 2007 8:22am Dec 4, 2007 8:22am
I'm not advocating it, but that's a hell of a free signal service for the next three weeks.
  • #27
  • Dec 4, 2007 8:25am Dec 4, 2007 8:25am
Quoting tdion
I'm not advocating it, but that's a hell of a free signal service for the next three weeks.
i'll tend to agree ^^
  • #28
  • Dec 7, 2007 7:59am Dec 7, 2007 7:59am
Hmmm it's not moving much lately... Staying around 1100% increase...
  • #29
  • Dec 7, 2007 9:06am Dec 7, 2007 9:06am
Wow, they are going to leave without pips the whole markets je je je.

I noticed something interesting, maybe for the proffesionals is not big deal but for the newbies and lovers of crazy big movements of JPY crosses (like me ) could be... 7 of the 10 first places use only EUR/USD in their system... who said is a boring non volatile pair lol?
Ado Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right.
  • #30
  • Dec 7, 2007 9:46am Dec 7, 2007 9:46am
Interesting thread. Programming a NN within MT4 could be a real pain. It would be better (in my opinion) to port the data to another program to do the number crunching for you.

I don't put a whole lot of merit to most of the EA's created for these contests. Most just take a stab at the market and if they get lucky they will win. Just look at the 600+ entrants. Only about 100 still have the initial 10,000 in their account. Same type of results from last years contest.

Good luck with creating your system. I will try to help where I can.
  • #31
  • Dec 7, 2007 10:21am Dec 7, 2007 10:21am
MM to the wind.... a few lucky systems where the market matched their rules climb to the top with impressive gains....

These lucky winners are marketed like they won the lottery..... "It can happen to you, it can happen to anyone"

Stacks of hundreds of losing systems pile up in the dead system scrap heap.....


Well, Better might be a little more than luck....
  • #32
  • Dec 7, 2007 10:31am Dec 7, 2007 10:31am
absolutely, I would love to see what is going on in the background on that one. He is blowing everyone else away.

Based on his reports he isn't buying more that 5 lots at a time. He has a success rate of about 70%. I wonder if he will make it available when it is all done??
  • #33
  • Dec 8, 2007 7:17am Dec 8, 2007 7:17am
Quoting magnumfreak
absolutely, I would love to see what is going on in the background on that one. He is blowing everyone else away.

Based on his reports he isn't buying more that 5 lots at a time. He has a success rate of about 70%. I wonder if he will make it available when it is all done??

After chatting to him on ICQ, he informed me that he is only looking at managed accounts. His charge will be 50% commission rate on accounts from 5K-30K and for accounts above 100K it will be 25%.

I also asked how long he has been forward testing the system and he told me since Aug 07 ONLY.

He has been running a LIVE account since September 07 and he told me it can be seen here http://www.viac.ru/cd/23&list=graph&acc=2102 . He trades this with 2-3 times lower risk than the Championship EA (KUB) seen in the competition.

PippinToTheTop!!!
  • #34
  • Dec 10, 2007 4:39am Dec 10, 2007 4:39am
Quoting magnumfreak
absolutely, I would love to see what is going on in the background on that one. He is blowing everyone else away.

Based on his reports he isn't buying more that 5 lots at a time. He has a success rate of about 70%. I wonder if he will make it available when it is all done??
Please read the rule of the championship, it is stated that an order cannot be bigger than 5 lots that is why this EA or any other EA wont open order bigger than 5 lots.
  • #35
  • Dec 10, 2007 7:49am Dec 10, 2007 7:49am
Finally growing again 1200%
  • #36
  • Dec 11, 2007 7:14am Dec 11, 2007 7:14am
These are interesting posts as I was looking for someone to trade part of my funds when I retire!
I believe 50% net per month is easily achievable by someone who is a full time ‘screen’ day-trader with a good system.
For those who rely on EA’s for entry and exit, then 30% pm would be an outstandingly good return.
If anyone can better 30% pm with an EA then they will get my business!!
Good luck to you all.
TEAMTRADER
  • #37
  • Dec 11, 2007 3:23pm Dec 11, 2007 3:23pm
Quoting 2george
I believe 50% net per month is easily achievable by someone who is a full time ‘screen’ day-trader with a good system.
If you sincerely believe that, you have a grave misconception about risk & probabilities. A trader beginning with $10k would break a billion dollars by month 30 at that rate.
  • #38
  • Dec 11, 2007 4:15pm Dec 11, 2007 4:15pm
Quoting 2george
These are interesting posts as I was looking for someone to trade part of my funds when I retire!
I believe 50% net per month is easily achievable by someone who is a full time ‘screen’ day-trader with a good system.
For those who rely on EA’s for entry and exit, then 30% pm would be an outstandingly good return.
If anyone can better 30% pm with an EA then they will get my business!!
Good luck to you all.
TEAMTRADER
Big difference between believing its possible based on what you hope and knowing its possible based on fact... there are no facts to support that statement.
Trade Small. Be Patient. Learn to Survive.
  • #39
  • Dec 12, 2007 8:09am Dec 12, 2007 8:09am
Near to 1300%, there is not reason why he would loose the championship
  • #40
  • Jan 20, 2008 12:18pm Jan 20, 2008 12:18pm
So I have been pondering a NN strategy that involves using MT4 to create a gigantic text file of all MAs between 1 and 100 for M1....

The NN would be trained with a random forest tree or some other type of predictive model.

Basically, the chart would resemble linux_trolls rainbow, but with 100 MAs....

Other indicators could be created with a different model (a NN built off of RSIs between 1 and 100, a different NN built from stochs, etc...)

The idea would be to buy when all NNs showed a buy, and sell otherwise.

This is similar to hurricane prediction models, where when 3 of 5 models agree, a consensus is made.
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