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  • #2,361
  • Oct 31, 2007 8:28am Oct 31, 2007 8:28am
I'm using SN v2 with Optimal chart settings but doesn't look like its behaving correctly. I've marked the last few trades (Not sure where the DOTs went) but you can see they are not following the indicators properly. QQE and DMI agree but MOM doesn't. See trades in trade window also. I think I closed a couple manually in profit but entry is wrong, Weird
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  • #2,362
  • Oct 31, 2007 8:56am Oct 31, 2007 8:56am
Quoting Gnat
So do me a favour and let this discussion end about ... NOW ... It was started out of good cause, but as this thread is unique in many ways, it is also different from the others in form of success in both forms of trading!

Best Wishes!
Gnat
Gnat,

I agree with you - we don't need another thread. Although I don't use the EA myself I am curious about it and am able to follow the progress quite well in Qpips journal. I also agree that the success you guys are having with the robots is far superior to what I have seen done on other systems in the past. And Glenn, I also see your point about computers and in many ways I would agree that computers are better than humans. The truth is I just really enjoy trading manually whether the computer is better at it than I am or not.

I have just seen interest in good systems die this way before and didn't want to see that happen with Supernova. So, carry on my friends and good luck to you all. I will bugger off and leave you to it.

NOFX
  • #2,363
  • Oct 31, 2007 9:03am Oct 31, 2007 9:03am
As mentioned previously, I was having a problem with the EA not exiting when QQE reversed. I then realized there was an error message in the 'Experts' section of MT4 when I started the EA, because the supernova zip didn't include all the QQE indicators, so I put the correct file in the directory and the error message no longer appeared - I thought the problem was fixed. However, the EA is still not exiting when QQE reverses. See image :


http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/8163/image1hr7.gif


This was on 15m. The QQE exit is definitely set :

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/7214/image2vn2.gif


And the smoothing of QQE in the EA is the same as the smoothing of QQE in the indicator (which created the arrow in the image) :

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/7447/image4uz2.gif

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/4629/image5nz8.gif

Here are all the QQE indicators in the directory :

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/125/image3hs9.gif


Any idea why it wouldn't have exited the trade in the picture? Hasn't anybody else seen a similar problem in their EA charts using the EA v1.3?

Thanks,
Jin.
  • #2,364
  • Oct 31, 2007 9:07am Oct 31, 2007 9:07am
Quoting Jin
As mentioned previously, I was having a problem with the EA not exiting when QQE reversed. I then realized there was an error message in the 'Experts' section of MT4 when I started the EA, because the supernova zip didn't include all the QQE indicators, so I put the correct file in the directory and the error message no longer appeared - I thought the problem was fixed. However, the EA is still not exiting when QQE reverses. See image :


http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/8163/image1hr7.gif


This was on 15m. The QQE exit is definitely set :

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/7214/image2vn2.gif


Here are all the QQE indicators in the directory :

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/125/image3hs9.gif


Any idea why it wouldn't have exited the trade in the picture? Hasn't anybody else seen a similar problem in their EA charts using the EA v1.3?

Thanks,
Jin.
Hi!

What's that ...QQE_Alert_MF_v5... indicator? It is not in post 1.

THX
  • #2,365
  • Oct 31, 2007 9:12am Oct 31, 2007 9:12am
Quoting Nofx
Gnat,

I agree with you - we don't need another thread. Although I don't use the EA myself I am curious about it and am able to follow the progress quite well in Qpips journal. I also agree that the success you guys are having with the robots is far superior to what I have seen done on other systems in the past. And Glenn, I also see your point about computers and in many ways I would agree that computers are better than humans. The truth is I just really enjoy trading manually whether the computer is better at it than I am or not.

I have just seen interest in good systems die this way before and didn't want to see that happen with Supernova. So, carry on my friends and good luck to you all. I will bugger off and leave you to it.

NOFX
Hey Doggy!

No need to bugger off! And the idea of splitting the thread came from Wolfe and I did not mean to attack any of you. I see that there are arguments for either side. I just do not have the time! : That's all!
And please post about the manual side, as it is truly the more satisfying way to hunt the pips. This will keep the system visible for all coming to the thread anew and you may have noticed that I am not tiering or stopping to get them involved only because I did so many times. As this thread is discovered by somebody new (seasoned or new or "what's Forex anyway) he will always find help and time!
And as Cryten himself is veeeery fond of the manual side, it is his own interest to keep that side alive! I just see people running the robot like Wolfeman is describing it, while having fun on their manual account big time!

So please do not try to interpret any hard feelings in my words above! Take it: I am torn myslef! I like it that way by now!

So Nofx, drugged little red eyed doggy! Hope you got me right this time! Now bugger off and play with the nice pips on FOMC later on!

Happy Piphunting!
GMatt
  • #2,366
  • Oct 31, 2007 9:16am Oct 31, 2007 9:16am
Quoting marc
What's that ...QQE_Alert_MF_v5... indicator?
It appears to be necessary for the EA (Glenn v1.3), if you start the EA without that indicator then it creates an error message in the 'Experts' section of MT4. I've asked Cryten to include it in the next version of the zip (also Damiani is missing and causes an error, although I guess it isn't essential for the EA to run correctly). You can find both files by clicking the paperclip at the top-right of this page (it will show you a list of over 300 files, make sure you get the right versions, don't get the QQE Alert MF v2/3/4, only v5 will make the EA happy...

Jin
  • #2,367
  • Oct 31, 2007 9:21am Oct 31, 2007 9:21am
Quoting Jin
As mentioned previously,


This was on 15m. The QQE exit is definitely set :

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/7214/image2vn2.gif


And the smoothing of QQE in the EA is the same as the smoothing of QQE in the indicator (which created the arrow in the image) :

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/7447/image4uz2.gif

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/4629/image5nz8.gif

Here are all the QQE indicators in the directory :

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/125/image3hs9.gif


Any idea why it wouldn't have exited the trade in the picture? Hasn't anybody else seen a similar problem in their EA charts using the EA v1.3?

Thanks,
Jin.
Hallo Jin!

So far the problem was only encountered around the CCI. Skyline was just earlier today pointing out, that he is going through all the code to find possible solutions for the exit problems. Maybe this one os really new now, although I need to check, as marc just pointed out, whether the QQE_Alert_MTF_v5 has anything to do with the EA. It seems a bit like a version used on the auslanco thread and may not be the right one. Maybe Sky could shed a light on this. I will try to bring him around for this. Just a second...

Ciao
Gnat
  • #2,368
  • Oct 31, 2007 9:22am Oct 31, 2007 9:22am
Quoting Jin
It appears to be necessary for the EA (Glenn v1.3), if you start the EA without that indicator then it creates an error message in the 'Experts' section of MT4. I've asked Cryten to include it in the next version of the zip (also Damiani is missing and causes an error, although I guess it isn't essential for the EA to run correctly). You can find both files by clicking the paperclip at the top-right of this page (it will show you a list of over 300 files, make sure you get the right versions, don't get the QQE Alert MF v2/3/4, only v5 will make the EA happy...

Jin
OK... so it may not be that problem... But still we need to solve your little knot there!
  • #2,369
  • Oct 31, 2007 9:35am Oct 31, 2007 9:35am
Quoting Jin
It appears to be necessary for the EA (Glenn v1.3), if you start the EA without that indicator then it creates an error message in the 'Experts' section of MT4. I've asked Cryten to include it in the next version of the zip (also Damiani is missing and causes an error, although I guess it isn't essential for the EA to run correctly). You can find both files by clicking the paperclip at the top-right of this page (it will show you a list of over 300 files, make sure you get the right versions, don't get the QQE Alert MF v2/3/4, only v5 will make the EA happy...

Jin
Hi!

THX for your reply. I can not find it there thoug.
  • #2,370
  • Oct 31, 2007 9:57am Oct 31, 2007 9:57am
Quoting Gnat
So please do not try to interpret any hard feelings in my words above!

Gnat,

I was not offended in the least by anything you or anyone else said. I think we have a great group of people here on this thread and that is one of the reasons I was so attracted to the system in the first place. I will try to post some of my charts and trades at some point here if I can figure out how to do it. I am a complete idiot when it comes to using the computer so I will have to work on that.

Have a great day,

NOFX
  • #2,371
  • Oct 31, 2007 10:01am Oct 31, 2007 10:01am
Quoting Nofx
Gnat,

I was not offended in the least by anything you or anyone else said. I think we have a great group of people here on this thread and that is one of the reasons I was so attracted to the system in the first place. I will try to post some of my charts and trades at some point here if I can figure out how to do it. I am a complete idiot when it comes to using the computer so I will have to work on that.

Have a great day,

NOFX
ROTFL... You ARE one crazy dog for sure!!
I`ll get back to posting charts later!
Now I am hunting after Jin's problem and PM me a wolf with Sky at the moment!

Thanks for clearing that up!!
Bye
GMatt
  • #2,372
  • Oct 31, 2007 10:02am Oct 31, 2007 10:02am
Skyline says:
1) long entry is when CCI is crossing from below the -100 line
2) short entry is when CCI is crossing from above the +100 line
3) long exit is when CCI is crossing from above the +100 line
4) short exit is when CCI is crossing from below the -100 line

I do not think this will work.

My own view is that CCI should enter a long when it passes through the +100 level and exit when it again retraces through the same level.
A sell should execute when it passes through the -100 level headed south, and exit when it again retraces through the same level.

Opinions?
  • #2,373
  • Oct 31, 2007 10:05am Oct 31, 2007 10:05am
Quoting skyline
Hi ET,
I'm completely re-coding the SuperNova EA and this kind of issues should not occur anymore, so pls trash v1.3 and wait until v1.4 will be released
Btw CCI is supposed to work in this way :

1) long entry is when CCI is crossing from below the -100 line
2) short entry is when CCI is crossing from above the +100 line
3) long exit is when CCI is crossing from above the +100 line
4) short exit is when CCI is crossing from below the -100 line

As you can see entry and exit on CCI are indipendent each other.

Cheers,
Skyline
Ok, I thought it was;
Long entry when CCI breaks out of the "Neutral Zone" going up from +100
Short entry when CCI breaks out of the "Neutral Zone" going down from -100
Like the attached


EDIT: posted when Winsteadglenn posted, I agree
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  • #2,374
  • Oct 31, 2007 10:07am Oct 31, 2007 10:07am
IMHO and I have probably less experience than anyone here.

I have traded this manually and had pretty good success with it...on the original pair and settings

Why not make the EA pair specific, instead of trying to make it work across a lot of pairs, make it work for ONE pair GBP/JPY and optimoze it for THAT pair alone.

The only reason I see to make it try and work for many is greed or as some will say to maximise profit.

Many an EA will work for a long long time on ONE pair and require little work to keep it functioning as the market changes but the same EA over time will require toooo much work to keep them working for many pairs


this is JMHO
Don't chase the market, Let the market come to you
  • #2,375
  • Oct 31, 2007 10:49am Oct 31, 2007 10:49am
Gnat

Sorry to be a pain I am running SN V 2 the entries that you showed I placed inton the MT4 for back testing the results I got for each of the pairs was not what you got, I wonder if you can show me the light!! Thanks a bunch!!!http://www.forexfactory.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
  • #2,376
  • Oct 31, 2007 11:03am Oct 31, 2007 11:03am
Quoting skyline
Hi ET,
I'm completely re-coding the SuperNova EA and this kind of issues should not occur anymore, so pls trash v1.3 and wait until v1.4 will be released
Btw CCI is supposed to work in this way :

1) long entry is when CCI is crossing from below the -100 line
2) short entry is when CCI is crossing from above the +100 line
3) long exit is when CCI is crossing from above the +100 line
4) short exit is when CCI is crossing from below the -100 line

As you can see entry and exit on CCI are indipendent each other.

Cheers,
Skyline
I'm sorry but I was wrong about CCI usage in EA (Thx to Glenn for alert me about this! ).

The correct CCI rules use are :

1) long entry is when CCI is crossing from below the +100 line
2) short entry is when CCI is crossing from above the -100 line
3) long exit is when CCI is crossing from above the +100 line
4) short exit is when CCI is crossing from below the -100 line

In other words long entry will be in place until CCI is above +100 , conversely a short entry will be in place until CCI is below -100.
The coming new release will be coded following this rules.

Skyline
  • #2,377
  • Oct 31, 2007 11:08am Oct 31, 2007 11:08am
Quoting morse
Gnat

Sorry to be a pain I am running SN V 2 the entries that you showed I placed inton the MT4 for back testing the results I got for each of the pairs was not what you got, I wonder if you can show me the light!! Thanks a bunch!!!http://www.forexfactory.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
First try this one... orion70 picked up the problem earlier! #2347
I am a little tied up right now!
Be back on that later! The File is really good there!!
Ciao
Gnat
  • #2,378
  • Oct 31, 2007 11:09am Oct 31, 2007 11:09am
Quoting Gnat
Good question - so far no date was fixed. Morse seems to be around at "my night", that would be early afternoon for you, depending on where you are located in the US. But I guess I will just put some material together to help you all optimize your efforts.
And: Qpip is around most of the time from Thursday to Sunday as she has some days off. And she is the undisputed "masterine" of testing by now! So we will surely be set up nicely within the next few days!!

Greetings!
Gnatster
Cool Gnat, just let me know approximately what GMT is good for you- I'm usually sleeping 9- 1500 GMT-ish
  • #2,379
  • Oct 31, 2007 11:16am Oct 31, 2007 11:16am
Quoting marc
THX for your reply. I can not find it there though.
OK, here it is again (attached at bottom).

Quoting Tmac
Why not make the EA pair specific, instead of trying to make it work across a lot of pairs, make it work for ONE pair GBP/JPY and optimize it for THAT pair alone
I think mostly everyone would agree that GBPJPY works best with this system, GBPUSD and EUR/JPY also seem to work well. I have stopped experimenting with all other pairs with the EA, as they seem too unreliable - I'm sure they can be profitable over time, but I prefer not to over-trade and this keeps the account balance available for higher-probability trades with the strongly trending pairs.

However I don't think people are specifically trying to make the EA work across a lot of pairs, that is not the goal - the work so far has been to get all the filters implemented and working correctly, that is important even if you are just using it with GBPJPY...

Jin.
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File Type: ex4 ###QQE_Alert_MTF_v5###.ex4   19 KB | 808 downloads
File Type: ex4 Damiani_volatmeter v3.2.ex4   5 KB | 546 downloads
  • #2,380
  • Oct 31, 2007 11:50am Oct 31, 2007 11:50am
@ Skyline - I have this EA that when a signal is triggered will initiate 1 Sell LIMIT order a 1 Buy LIMIT order then as long as price moves in whatever direction it does, the EA will then place the corresponding trade and cancel the other. Not sure if it will help in detecting wrong signals but thought I would bring it up in case it would be something worth implementing in the next release.
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