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  • #81
  • Oct 22, 2007 2:46pm Oct 22, 2007 2:46pm
I think you are going to extrordinary efforts to discredit Erlan and his identity. Frankly ,I am bewildered by this thread and do not know who to believe.
Why don't you just give the guy back his intial deposit and be done with this matter. I do not see you making an effort to do that.


Sincerely


John Lorden
  • #82
  • Oct 23, 2007 8:04am Oct 23, 2007 8:04am
It seems like your huge super-profitable company has nothing else to do as to create crap-designed websites like http://fxjoke.com and http://erlan.info. Bravo, what can I say.

I am glad you started to understand that the situation is somewhat not ordinary. Glad it took you about a month. My own identity as well as the authenticity of all my ID's and documents CAN BE PROVEN to any authorities. I can provide a REAL DOCUMENT to any authorities. The real passport, by the way, is issued by State, not by a local school or wherever your manager called.
Anyway and what about you? Do you have any documents you can show? Except an offshore registration which anyone can buy for 1000 USD? The web already knows you have fake phones, fake addresses, fake offices. No one can say where such a huge scam company is located. Who are you anyway? Does your company really exist?

I know Russian as well. And if you don't lie again, you have been calling to Baktybaya. Baktybaya is a small village, which hardly has a phone line, located in Taldy-Kurgan Region, which is the territory of so-called «Elder Juz». In this region people in villages dislike russians and do not speak Russian. Your calls are a fake. As usual, actually.

I will ask several questions, which, I am sure, will again be ignored by FXOpen Scam Company Manager. Once again:
Who are you and where are you located? Do you have name and address?
You have time to create idiotic sites like http://fxjoke.com and http://erlan.info but you will not return my stolen money?
And WHERE DO YOU STORE CUSTOMERS' MONEY? In which banks? Can you tell that?

I have a real address and location of course, but big money lead to big troubles. You have already shown that you are trying to find, because it is simpler to kill me than to return the money. You speak russian perfectly! This once again proves your «huge» company is a scam, created by russian mafia.

The money WAS RECEIVED. This is a fact. Third parties have CONFIRMED IT! The money is on your purse! It is really fishy, first you say the money was «supposedly received», now you have invented some Poltek company. I have already shown that Poltek is YOUR OWN DOMAIN, and your own company. Stop lying again and return my money!

I now have only one problem – who should I hand in the application for? My local laws say that I must go to Police dept. OF THE PLACE WHERE THE CRIME WAS COMMITTED. Now where was it committed? I have SEVERAL TIMES asked for your local police department telephone, but you ignore that. It seems as though you are afraid to say it, right? But if you tell me what police department I should contact – you will have to explain the same lies to the police. So, once again, WHERE IS YOUR LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT? Phone? Address? Where do I direct the investigators?

However, some of my current actions will be a big unpleasant surprise for FXOpen Scam Company. I don't really know what you are trying to prove, in my point of view – you are scammers who steal customers' money!

Once again: there was NO letter about leverage change to 1:200, I think you somehow again made a fake later. Your trading platform allowed me to open the order and receive profit. For 2 weeks nobody cancelled this order or somehow informed me that it was illegal. And after that you deleted a live account with about 140000 USD on it. If your scam company is so poor as not to have money to pay the whole sum – ok, GIVE ME MY INITIAL DEPOSIT BACK!

Indeed, if such a huge company is so desperate to steal my USD 50000, maybe your situation is not that wonderful? Your Scam Manager talks so often about thousands of happy customers and enormous profits. Way too often. Maybe something is wrong in this scam company?
You are talking so much about spam, attacks on your servers, etc. This, like I already said, is the first sign that the scam company is going to vanish with all the money. So hereby I ask you:
PLEASE STAY ALIVE AND DON'T DISAPPEAR WITHIN AT LEAST A WEEK MORE SO THAT PEOPLE COULD SAVE THEIR MONEY FROM YOU! THANK YOU!
Right now we see that the contact details have been deleted on all the FXOpen Scam Company websites. It already began to run and hide?! Save your money!
http://fxopen.info/images/contacts_deleted.gif

And yes, this FXOpen Scam Company steals customers' money, spams its customers, seems as the «Scam champion» according to Google search results, no one knows where to apply in case something happens – BUT PLEASE BRING YOUR MONEY TO US! This is even funny!

And yes, in the email conversation FXOpen Scam Company thanked me for free advertizing and called to fxopen.org domain owner trying to buy it! Nice job.

In conclusion:
1.I am a real person and I can prove that. You hide under fake phones and addresses
2.You stole my money and no one knows where you store customers' money. Probably on your own accounts in unknown banks
3.You started to look for me, you speak russian, this means you are related to Russian mafia and you want to kill me.
  • #83
  • Edited 10:16am Oct 23, 2007 10:04am | Edited 10:16am
Quoting Erlan
Right now we see that the contact details have been deleted on all the FXOpen Scam Company websites. It already began to run and hide?! Save your money!
http://fxopen.info/images/contacts_deleted.gif
http://www.fxopen.com/ContactUs.aspx

There is still contact phone etc (yet i dont know if they are really valid that is ^^ ) maybe this was just temporary
  • #84
  • Oct 23, 2007 1:35pm Oct 23, 2007 1:35pm
Dear Administration of forexfactory.com,
We are alarmed to see that you are very quick to ban any members that post a good opinion of our company on your forum, and are happy to let others post all the bad opinions they like.
We have a mountain of evidence to support our position that the person called "Erlan" is nothing more than a lying deceiver in a band of criminals. Please see http://erlan.info for more information.
Do you wish to be seen to support criminal activity on your forum by allowing those who have tried to fraudulently obtain money from us to continually post their lies and to influence the opinions of others and turn them against us?
It reflects badly upon your organization and your moderating team that you suppress any and all support for our company based on the facts, yet you wholeheartedly support those who's tools of trade are lies, deception and subterfuge.
Please accept that we respect your position as one of the largest forex forums on the internet and that your decisions are taken on what information you have at hand, but if you continue to ban and give infractions to any members who try to defend the position of FXOpen or post something favorable about FXOpen, we will have no option but to interpret your actions as tacit support of blatant criminal activity which will result in us taking action against you in a court of law from the United States of America.
Please understand that we do not wish to bring this to court unless absolutely necessary, and that we request that you take note of the information we have provided at http://erlan.info , and that we respectfully request that you review your unfounded actions against us and against members of your forum who have tried to defend the name of their broker.
Our next action will be influenced by your response to this communication.

Yours Sincerely,
FXOpen Management.
  • #85
  • Oct 23, 2007 2:18pm Oct 23, 2007 2:18pm
Quoting FXOCeo
Yours Sincerely,
FXOpen Management.
i believe FX Open is a scam, the same kind of scam as a HYIP is. and i am NOT basing this judgement on anything that erlan has said. in fact, i have not even read his website fxopen.info. the reason that i know fxopen is a scam is from your OWN WORDS. those statements you put out about hackers, defunked executives, and all the other wierd stories you guys have been telling .... that is why this reeks of scam. dont you realize that these scams and excuses are very old?? you must take us for fools.
Relax and be happy.
  • #86
  • Oct 23, 2007 2:21pm Oct 23, 2007 2:21pm
Quoting FXOCeo
we will have no option but to interpret your actions as tacit support of blatant criminal activity which will result in us taking action against you in a court of law from the United States of America.
  • #87
  • Oct 23, 2007 2:22pm Oct 23, 2007 2:22pm
Quoting FXOCeo
Dear Administration of forexfactory.com,
We are alarmed to see that you are very quick to ban any members that post a good opinion of our company on your forum, and are happy to let others post all the bad opinions they like.
We have a mountain of evidence to support our position that the person called "Erlan" is nothing more than a lying deceiver in a band of criminals. Please see http://erlan.info for more information.
Do you wish to be seen to support criminal activity on your forum by allowing those who have tried to fraudulently obtain money from us to continually post their lies and to influence the opinions of others and turn them against us?
It reflects badly upon your organization and your moderating team that you suppress any and all support for our company based on the facts, yet you wholeheartedly support those who's tools of trade are lies, deception and subterfuge.
Please accept that we respect your position as one of the largest forex forums on the internet and that your decisions are taken on what information you have at hand, but if you continue to ban and give infractions to any members who try to defend the position of FXOpen or post something favorable about FXOpen, we will have no option but to interpret your actions as tacit support of blatant criminal activity which will result in us taking action against you in a court of law from the United States of America.
Please understand that we do not wish to bring this to court unless absolutely necessary, and that we request that you take note of the information we have provided at http://erlan.info , and that we respectfully request that you review your unfounded actions against us and against members of your forum who have tried to defend the name of their broker.
Our next action will be influenced by your response to this communication.

Yours Sincerely,
FXOpen Management.
Just give the guy back his deposit and difuse this matter. When you try to draw attention away from yourself and onto Erlan it makes me think you have something to hide!!
Oh ya I am offended by your letter to FF staff. These guys are solid and have high integrity. They truly are friends to all traders! I do not think they will be intimidated by your letter.
  • #88
  • Oct 23, 2007 2:29pm Oct 23, 2007 2:29pm
FXOceo, How about some good faith info?

Where exactly is your co. located and what government body regulates your activities?

It is not on your web site or anywhere else that can be seen. Who are the officers of the company?

Thanks much in advance
  • #89
  • Oct 23, 2007 2:35pm Oct 23, 2007 2:35pm
Quoting merlin
i believe FX Open is a scam, the same kind of scam as a HYIP is. and i am NOT basing this judgement on anything that erlan has said. in fact, i have not even read his website fxopen.info. the reason that i know fxopen is a scam is from your OWN WORDS. those statements you put out about hackers, defunked executives, and all the other wierd stories you guys have been telling .... that is why this reeks of scam. dont you realize that these scams and excuses are very old?? you must take us for fools.
Dear Merlin. Are you part of the official forexfactory.com Administration? We will await the official answer from the owners/administrators of this forum before deciding what to do next.
  • #90
  • Oct 23, 2007 2:58pm Oct 23, 2007 2:58pm
Quoting FXOCeo
Dear Administration of forexfactory.com,
We are alarmed to see that you are very quick to ban any members that post a good opinion of our company on your forum, and are happy to let others post all the bad opinions they like.
The only members I have seen banned are IB's for your swindle who are shi*ing themselves now as it's gonna be pretty damn hard to introduce anyone with an internet connection to your "brokerage"

I wish you could return this man's money but you can't now, can you? As that would expose without a DOUBT every single lie you have told.

If I didn't beleive Erlan I would certainly beleive Maxey (another customer you defrauded)

Ciao!!!
  • #91
  • Oct 23, 2007 5:21pm Oct 23, 2007 5:21pm
Quoting FXOCeo
We will await the official answer from the owners/administrators of this forum before deciding what to do next.
what answer are you waiting for? you are looking for a legal response or something? im a moderator and admin here, not the owner. if you want to threaten FF with legalese, youd have to go through the proper channels, in the US we dont discuss legal matters on a public internet forum.
Relax and be happy.
  • #92
  • Oct 23, 2007 5:30pm Oct 23, 2007 5:30pm
Quoting smjones
Who are the officers of the company?
I smell something weird - like somebody stepped in something...

Oh, yeah, it's the fact that the leader of the company signs his letters, FXOCeo. What kind of a friggin' name is that?

I understand there's some cultural differences, but this guy seems like he's from another planet. I've never heard of the leader of ANY significant organization refusing to "put their name on the line."

For all we know, he's just another "hacker".
  • #93
  • Oct 23, 2007 5:39pm Oct 23, 2007 5:39pm
Quoting brentmack
I smell something weird - like somebody stepped in something...

Oh, yeah, it's the fact that the leader of the company signs his letters, FXOCeo. What kind of a friggin' name is that?

I understand there's some cultural differences, but this guy seems like he's from another planet. I've never heard of the leader of ANY significant organization refusing to "put their name on the line."

For all we know, he's just another "hacker".
yeah that is true! Jamie Dimon signs Jamie Dimon not JPMORGAN MAC DADDY
  • #94
  • Oct 24, 2007 4:15am Oct 24, 2007 4:15am
Quoting cryten
yeah that is true! Jamie Dimon signs Jamie Dimon not JPMORGAN MAC DADDY
Rolf... Imagine the signature for Microsoft... "Friggin' CEO of Microsoft i own you all"

Maybe it's easier with just Steve Ballmer...

As for FXopen, they are still unable to give the name of the CEO...
  • #95
  • Oct 24, 2007 8:55am Oct 24, 2007 8:55am
"There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the roofs." Luke 12:2-3

  • #96
  • Oct 24, 2007 9:29am Oct 24, 2007 9:29am
Quoting TurtleOnion
"There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the roofs." Luke 12:2-3

Luke Skywalker ?

No seriously, i really thought it was a Star Wars sentence...
  • #97
  • Edited Oct 25, 2007 6:34am Oct 24, 2007 9:52am | Edited Oct 25, 2007 6:34am
Quoting melpheos
Luke Skywalker ?

No seriously, i really thought it was a Star Wars sentence...
Luke Skywalker...hmm...a good guess. But hope you have got the right source now . I dunno Luke's full name but he was a doctor.... Anyway, this sentence came crossing my mind when reading how the "defendants" will defend themselves from being labeled as scam...:
  • #98
  • Oct 24, 2007 1:24pm Oct 24, 2007 1:24pm
scam or not. i dont think anyone will be dealing with fxopen for a while....that is if they are still around *chuckles.
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  • #99
  • Oct 28, 2007 6:03am Oct 28, 2007 6:03am
Quoting cryten
yeah that is true! Jamie Dimon signs Jamie Dimon not JPMORGAN MAC DADDY
  • #100
  • Oct 28, 2007 12:15pm Oct 28, 2007 12:15pm
Quoting merlin
i believe FX Open is a scam, the same kind of scam as a HYIP is. and i am NOT basing this judgement on anything that erlan has said. in fact, i have not even read his website fxopen.info. the reason that i know fxopen is a scam is from your OWN WORDS. those statements you put out about hackers, defunked executives, and all the other wierd stories you guys have been telling .... that is why this reeks of scam. dont you realize that these scams and excuses are very old?? you must take us for fools.
even 3yo know those story r fake........
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