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  • #1,901
  • Dec 21, 2006 6:57am Dec 21, 2006 6:57am
Quoting nyehia
Hi All experts,
I am an newbie when it comes to forex, i have downloaded the firebird files and added it to my metatrader but when i attch it to the chart nothing happens, could someone please explain to me step by step how to see it working and what would i expect after it works.
Thanks a lot.
Nyehia

The steps are :-
Download the FB files and put them into the exprets folder
Attach it to the chart
enable the Allow Live trade ( and if you like to allow the manula confirmation )

if you did all that you shoud see a smily face at the right top corner of the chart..
if that face is sad then you didnot enable the Live trading ,
if it is happy ( smile one ) then it is working ,
and if you dnot see it at all and just see a letter x , then click on the Expert Advisors buttom in the metatrader window at the top ( the biggest one )
  • #1,902
  • Dec 21, 2006 7:03am Dec 21, 2006 7:03am
Quoting nvwine
I tried the same thing and got the error. Then I checked the box 'Ask Manual Confirmation' on the EA. When the alert sounded for confirmation I noticed the volume for the order was 0.00 This is why it is saying invalid lots. The market price, SL and TP looked correct. I trade on IBFXm platform. I have not looked at the code yet but a zero lot order is causing the error. At least on my platform.


ok .. if you got time and found why that happen please tell me ( I aint in mq4 programming at all so I know nothing about it )
  • #1,903
  • Dec 21, 2006 7:14am Dec 21, 2006 7:14am
Quoting willyhopa
The steps are :-
Download the FB files and put them into the exprets folder
Attach it to the chart
enable the Allow Live trade ( and if you like to allow the manula confirmation )

if you did all that you shoud see a smily face at the right top corner of the chart..
if that face is sad then you didnot enable the Live trading ,
if it is happy ( smile one ) then it is working ,
and if you dnot see it at all and just see a letter x , then click on the Expert Advisors buttom in the metatrader window at the top ( the biggest one )
Hi, I did your steps, now what should i see? would it buy or sell for me ?
Coudl you please explain what should i expect as i already see the smiley face now what should i do next.
  • #1,904
  • Dec 21, 2006 7:17am Dec 21, 2006 7:17am
Quoting nyehia
Hi, I did your steps, now what should i see? would it buy or sell for me ?
Coudl you please explain what should i expect as i already see the smiley face now what should i do next.
Just wait .. it should AUTO sell/buy ( but hope you are in a demo account since you are new in the EA in general )
  • #1,905
  • Dec 21, 2006 7:27am Dec 21, 2006 7:27am
Quoting willyhopa
Just wait .. it should AUTO sell/buy ( but hope you are in a demo account since you are new in the EA in general )
Yea i am in demo account as i just lost $500 in real account without having the know how, i hope i would show some progress in demo before opening real account again.
Thanks
  • #1,906
  • Dec 21, 2006 8:21am Dec 21, 2006 8:21am
Quoting willyhopa
ok .. if you got time and found why that happen please tell me ( I aint in mq4 programming at all so I know nothing about it )
Your broker does allow you to trade .01 lots?

I'll probably have to let Wackena look into it. I don't really know how to program either. More interesting I can't seem to duplicate the problem. I just turned the EA back on and it placed an order for .01 So I don't know.
  • #1,907
  • Dec 21, 2006 8:59am Dec 21, 2006 8:59am
Quoting nvwine
Your broker does allow you to trade .01 lots?

I'll probably have to let Wackena look into it. I don't really know how to program either. More interesting I can't seem to duplicate the problem. I just turned the EA back on and it placed an order for .01 So I don't know.

yes my broker allow micros ( 0.01 ) and allready used FB-V63G-TS and made couple of deals in micros well ..

but FB 3.2 give that error.
  • #1,908
  • Edited 11:00am Dec 21, 2006 10:53am | Edited 11:00am
Willy, what pairs did you get the error on? Did you have open trades for the same pairs on your platform?

I changed my mind again. I got the lot volume = 0.00 again a couple of times in the last hour. It was on GBPUSD and then EURUSD. Firebird v3.2 placed .01 lot orders fine for GBPJPY and EURCAD during the last 2 hours. I wonder if the problem is only on XXXUSD pairs? A couple of days ago when I had the error it was on EURUSD each time. The XXXUSD pairs backtest OK. I have had other XXXUSD trades on the same pair open on the platform when the errors happened. The other trades were opened manually or with PipBoxer.

In the zip file is the *.set file in use on GBPUSD and a picture of the volume=0.00 I have made no real modifications to the EA. The other picture is EURUSD which uses the same EA so same *.set file. I only added 5m to the name and changed the name_expert to show 5min inside so I could tell the testing time frame.

Wackena,
I hope this helps. Disregard half of the PM I sent you. We have an error some of the time.
Thanks for your work
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  • #1,909
  • Dec 21, 2006 1:35pm Dec 21, 2006 1:35pm
Hello willy,

I checked your statement that you are using North Finance, however I don't think they support micro lots. That's probably why you got the error.

Hope that helps.
  • #1,910
  • Dec 21, 2006 1:39pm Dec 21, 2006 1:39pm
Quoting nvwine
Willy, what pairs did you get the error on? Did you have open trades for the same pairs on your platform?

I changed my mind again. I got the lot volume = 0.00 again a couple of times in the last hour. It was on GBPUSD and then EURUSD. Firebird v3.2 placed .01 lot orders fine for GBPJPY and EURCAD during the last 2 hours. I wonder if the problem is only on XXXUSD pairs? A couple of days ago when I had the error it was on EURUSD each time. The XXXUSD pairs backtest OK. I have had other XXXUSD trades on the same pair open on the platform when the errors happened. The other trades were opened manually or with PipBoxer.

In the zip file is the *.set file in use on GBPUSD and a picture of the volume=0.00 I have made no real modifications to the EA. The other picture is EURUSD which uses the same EA so same *.set file. I only added 5m to the name and changed the name_expert to show 5min inside so I could tell the testing time frame.

Wackena,
I hope this helps. Disregard half of the PM I sent you. We have an error some of the time.
Thanks for your work
nvwine,
This is a good mystery. I've tested FB3.2 on IBFX mini and it placed orders with lot size of 0.01 on all four major pairs.

Wackena
  • #1,911
  • Dec 21, 2006 4:43pm Dec 21, 2006 4:43pm
Quoting Puppy
Hello willy,

I checked your statement that you are using North Finance, however I don't think they support micro lots. That's probably why you got the error.

Hope that helps.

that error appear with other broker which support micro .
  • #1,912
  • Dec 21, 2006 6:37pm Dec 21, 2006 6:37pm
Ok , its working now anddid opened one trade for me with USD/CHF and i gained $20 from this trade on my demo account.However its not working for any other pair though i loaded the eur/usd set file in the preset folder into the firebird properties.
Could you tell me what setting i should do to make it work with any other pair and make it work on frequent basis as it worked only once with usd/chf the whole day and could someoned tell me what triggers the firebird to open a trade?
Thanks a lot
  • #1,913
  • Dec 21, 2006 6:52pm Dec 21, 2006 6:52pm
Quoting nyehia
Ok , its working now anddid opened one trade for me with USD/CHF and i gained $20 from this trade on my demo account.However its not working for any other pair though i loaded the eur/usd set file in the preset folder into the firebird properties.
Could you tell me what setting i should do to make it work with any other pair and make it work on frequent basis as it worked only once with usd/chf the whole day and could someoned tell me what triggers the firebird to open a trade?
Thanks a lot
How many charts did you attach the EA to? You need the little smiling face up in the corner of one chart for each pair you want to trade.
What time frame charts are you using? The closer you get to 1min charts the more trades you will get. More trades is not always better. You might want to try 5min charts to start with.
  • #1,914
  • Dec 21, 2006 7:05pm Dec 21, 2006 7:05pm
Quoting nvwine
How many charts did you attach the EA to? You need the little smiling face up in the corner of one chart for each pair you want to trade.
What time frame charts are you using? The closer you get to 1min charts the more trades you will get. More trades is not always better. You might want to try 5min charts to start with.
i attached it to 2 charts and i have the smile face there for both pairs.
I am using northfinance demo,
1)do u mean that i should just click on 5min button at the top or change the setting in firebird properties?
2)Also is there any other variables that i need to change?
3)How much pips should i gain with this system on daily basis?
4)Do you think it will work differently on real account on northfinance if i deposit $800 there?
Sorry for so much questions but i was searching for answers all the day.
thanks
  • #1,915
  • Dec 21, 2006 7:21pm Dec 21, 2006 7:21pm
Quoting nyehia
i attached it to 2 charts and i have the smile face there for both pairs.
I am using northfinance demo,
1)do u mean that i should just click on 5min button at the top or change the setting in firebird properties?
2)Also is there any other variables that i need to change?
3)How much pips should i gain with this system on daily basis?
4)Do you think it will work differently on real account on northfinance if i deposit $800 there?
Sorry for so much questions but i was searching for answers all the day.
thanks
Set the chart to 5min not the properties. Things always seem to work different on a live account. At least for me. I don't think you should trade this or any other EA on a live account until you test it for quite a while and understand how and why it works.

Hopefully someone else will give you their ideas and answer the rest of your questions.
  • #1,916
  • Dec 21, 2006 7:44pm Dec 21, 2006 7:44pm
Quoting nyehia
i attached it to 2 charts and i have the smile face there for both pairs.
I am using northfinance demo,
1)do u mean that i should just click on 5min button at the top or change the setting in firebird properties?
2)Also is there any other variables that i need to change?
3)How much pips should i gain with this system on daily basis?
4)Do you think it will work differently on real account on northfinance if i deposit $800 there?
Sorry for so much questions but i was searching for answers all the day.
thanks

1) Chart be 5M ( in the MetaTrader it self ) and donot change it in the FB properties.
2) FB got alot of variables .. but you can begin testing it with basic settings and then deside if you will need change any of them or not.
3) all depend on market ( in one day I got 192 pip , second day was almost dead day so only got 25 pips )
4) even if it went so well in the demo , do not go live untill you understand the FB very well , coz in live alot of things will be different ( specially your own fearing and worry about each deal you see )
  • #1,917
  • Dec 21, 2006 11:22pm Dec 21, 2006 11:22pm
RESULTS

Today, Dec 22 at 05:05 GMT, FireBird v2[1], with MM, TS, the version just prior to 3.xx), hit TP on Eur/Aud trade opened Dec 21 at 21:45 GMT at 1.6789. TP was 18 pips, $141.70.

Here's the Good News...
I used cable's ranging tendency today, after the news, as the greenlight to use FireBird. Cable on the 4H is mirroring last week's behavior, which if things held true to form, indicated a relatively mild ranging market between 18:00 GMT and 00:00 or just beyond.

So if the trader can determine with relative certainty that cable will "behave" (i.e., not enter a trend), then that trader can launch FireBird. This is the second time I've tried it and while 2 robins don't make a spring, we're at least getting warmer.
  • #1,918
  • Dec 22, 2006 7:31am Dec 22, 2006 7:31am
I have been using Firebird 3.2 on the 5min charts on the Frank, Euro, Yen and the Canadian Dollar for the last two weeks with good results. Each pair has slightly different setting regards TP, SL, Hedge TP and Hedge SL however I have noticed an interested trend.

Overall, I have made ~1500.00 on the 4 pairs this week (in Demo)however I have noticed that my float is ~1500. Is there a way to profit my profit or lower the float without affecting open trades. Also if I change my presets on any pair, do they affect open orders or just new order? I assume I would have to manually adjust my TP, SL, etc.. on open trades.

BTW - this forum rocks!
  • #1,919
  • Dec 22, 2006 7:55am Dec 22, 2006 7:55am
Quoting nyehia
Hi All experts,
I am an newbie when it comes to forex, i have downloaded the firebird files...
This may not be the appropriate place to say this, but to anyone looking at this EA who doesn't have a significant amount of Forex experience, please be careful!!

Firebird in the hands of a new trader is like a 600 HP sports car in the hands of a kid. It'll go like hell for block or so... till it hits a pole. But try telling a kid they're better off with an econobox...

This EA is *FAR* from being a fully automated system that you simply set and forget. Regardless of version, it is a tool that requires a great deal of caution and market savvy to use correctly as many people on this thread have learned over the last 2 months.

Good luck and Merry CHRISTmas everyone!
  • #1,920
  • Dec 22, 2006 7:59am Dec 22, 2006 7:59am
[quote=sm31]

Firebird in the hands of a new trader is like a 600 HP sports car in the hands of a kid. It'll go like hell for block or so... till it hits a pole. But try telling a kid they're better off with an econobox...
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You right on the money!
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