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  • #821
  • Oct 17, 2007 1:34am Oct 17, 2007 1:34am
Hi, Qpip and Gnat,
I'm watching the thread for some days and was greatly interested in
your great work, so your following optimal set up is for the Supernovaea.mq4 file,
not the SuperNova EA (Glenn) in the supanova package, right?
And what's the StopAndReverse parameter? all set to true?
the Trade_Bar parameter set to 1?
Many thanks!

Quoting Qpip
Updated tables/merged tables as of oct 14, 2007

Shorter TFs

GBPUSD
Following a request by gnmat, I redid some tests on this pair, which had an initial result, using filters, of –7 pips/month on the 30 m TF (the best result I got). With a SL of 55 we gain 18 pips and with a MOM of 43, another 145, for a total for this pair of 163 pips/month. So I reintroduced it to the shorter TFs.

Longer TFs

7 out of 8 pairs in this group had tested better without filters. But I decided to test them with varying MOMs in the light of the new positive results I got with this indicator with the shorter TFs last week.

http://i20.tinypic.com/f1y1d2.jpg

CHFJPY, on the 4H, gains an extra 31 pips with a MOM of 1. USDJPY 1H gains 14 pips with a MOM of 24. GBPUSD daily and EURUSD 4H gain nothing. AUDJPY 4H gains 5 pips with a MOM of 10. For NZDJPY 4H things a more complicated because I didn’t get as good a modelling quality as I did last week, so it’s difficult to compare. However, it did have a gain of 46% over not using filters with a MOM of 20 but I’ll wait before I include this in the table. Next week I’ll try to download better data a redo the tests on this one. Lastly, GBPJPY 4H still gets better results without any filters..

These were incorporated to the rest of the "optimal" results. Also, DMIs of 14, 10 and 7 were tested on all pairs/tfs (audjpy 4H gains 17 pips and 1H gains 6 pips by setting DMI @ 10, gbpusd 30m gains 16 pips with DMI @ 7 and gbpusd 1H gains 17 pips with DMI @ 7)

Here are the separate tables:


http://i23.tinypic.com/14imnf7.jpg
Now, as you can see, some of the shorter TFs have better results than longer TFs and vice-versa. So I decided to merge the whole thing, keeping only the best performers.

http://i22.tinypic.com/2upeb7b.jpg

USDJPY is the same in both tables (1H).

CHFJPY 1H wasn’t tested to the bone like the others, but the first results showed it better performed on the 4H so that’s how I kept it.

GBPUSD 30 mins is at 179 pips/mth over the daily which is 165.

NZDJPY’s tests were not conclusive. I used the data I had last week as it is more reliable, and selected the shorter TF of 1H with filters at 215.

EURJPY 4H is at 244 without filters but the 1H with filters shoots up to 302 with filters so that’s the one I’m selecting.

CADJPY is the same in both tables (1H).

AUDJPY 4 H is at 286 withtout filters but the 1H with filters shoots up to 330, so same logic here.

Finally, GBPJPY still gets better results with the 4H no filters.

Nb: if you use these settings, don’t forget to change DMI and MOM properties on your screens for each pair so that you can follow what’s going on with the bots in the background.

I'm now off to test "long only" scenarios as well as TPs (breakfast bots)
  • #822
  • Oct 17, 2007 8:56am Oct 17, 2007 8:56am
Morning!

Little crab & coffee....
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  • #823
  • Oct 17, 2007 12:30pm Oct 17, 2007 12:30pm
Quoting zephyrs
Hi, Qpip and Gnat,
I'm watching the thread for some days and was greatly interested in
your great work, so your following optimal set up is for the Supernovaea.mq4 file,
not the SuperNova EA (Glenn) in the supanova package, right?
And what's the StopAndReverse parameter? all set to true?
the Trade_Bar parameter set to 1?
Many thanks!
Hi Zephyrs,

All correct. Except I'm using a slightly modified version of the ea which is still in the process of being "tweaked" but it gives exactly the same signals as the original one.

Happy trading!
  • #824
  • Oct 17, 2007 12:33pm Oct 17, 2007 12:33pm
I'll be back in about 3 hours. In the meatime, I've set everything up to start pip-bagging on this wonderful 3X wednesday @ 17 EST !!!!
  • #825
  • Oct 17, 2007 12:44pm Oct 17, 2007 12:44pm
Quoting Qpip
I'll be back in about 3 hours. In the meatime, I've set everything up to start pip-bagging on this wonderful 3X wednesday @ 17 EST !!!!
Oh wowow...

please be careful about that!

Greetz!
Gnatch
  • #826
  • Oct 17, 2007 5:30pm Oct 17, 2007 5:30pm
Quoting Gnat
Oh wowow...

please be careful about that!

Greetz!
Gnatch
Thanks for the warning, however things went well. I need to analyze a bit more the mechanics, however, because during the 1.5 minutes (or so) that I was in the trade, things "could have" not gone well, contrary to what I thought. The pair today around 17H was in a downtrend, so more "touchy" than when in uptrend.

Did you have a nice day?? I'm still overloaded with work. I hope tomorrow will be better.
  • #827
  • Oct 17, 2007 5:42pm Oct 17, 2007 5:42pm
Quoting Qpip
Thanks for the warning, however things went well. I need to analyze a bit more the mechanics, however, because during the 1.5 minutes (or so) that I was in the trade, things "could have" not gone well, contrary to what I thought. The pair today around 17H was in a downtrend, so more "touchy" than when in uptrend.

Did you have a nice day?? I'm still overloaded with work. I hope tomorrow will be better.
He Qpip, this sounds like an Experts (EA that is) job to me...
  • #828
  • Oct 17, 2007 5:44pm Oct 17, 2007 5:44pm
Quoting Qpip
Thanks for the warning, however things went well. I need to analyze a bit more the mechanics, however, because during the 1.5 minutes (or so) that I was in the trade, things "could have" not gone well, contrary to what I thought. The pair today around 17H was in a downtrend, so more "touchy" than when in uptrend.

Did you have a nice day?? I'm still overloaded with work. I hope tomorrow will be better.
Well - I am stuck with car problems all of the time. They seemingly planned a litte revolution out there on the parking range and after I had one in the garage at the beginning of the week, my biggy went all roary and non-breaking at the same time - had to get him there also.
Being a bit freaky about old cars, I actually would have another one, but this is an "H" car with H = history on the nameplate. So it was just returned to the winterplace and dried out and all LAST week! Now I am driving a scooter around in "the wind and sleet", just like the guy in Quadrophenia (The Who Film). Wrong time of year for that!

Otherwise things are quite alright. Guess you will love the adjustable QQE from FinnFX (Looking forward to a nice testing stampede on the weekend ), as one can modify it into each and every direction. Therefor there was a big crowd all day on the forum!

Unfortunately I will have to head for bed soon, as some wellmeaning business associate asked me for breakfast (you know I don't need it) in Hamburg at 10.00 tomorrow - that means for me getting up at 8.00 and still not looking hung over in any way!

Schönen Abend noch!!
Gnatias
  • #829
  • Oct 17, 2007 5:46pm Oct 17, 2007 5:46pm
Quoting HerbertH
He Qpip, this sounds like an Experts (EA that is) job to me...
LOL ... maybe! But it is just catching the 3 times interestpayment on friday in an uptrend!

G'night and thanks for the Alert in QQEA!

Matt
  • #830
  • Oct 17, 2007 5:52pm Oct 17, 2007 5:52pm
Quoting Gnat
LOL ... maybe! But it is just catching the 3 times interestpayment on friday in an uptrend!

G'night and thanks for the Alert in QQEA!

Matt
See, that's why you need to have an Expert; to do this on Wednesday and not on Friday by mistake. Hihi
  • #831
  • Oct 17, 2007 5:59pm Oct 17, 2007 5:59pm
Quoting HerbertH
See, that's why you need to have an Expert; to do this on Wednesday and not on Friday by mistake. Hihi
a real Herb""

BTW: For Fridays we would need an EA that will stradle the GBPJPY and will not enter into a trade until the market closes. See he needs to let the Buy and the Sell dance away from the market at 7-10 pips above (+spread) and 7-10 pips below notation. (Below there is no spread.)

Better get the plan to you in a PM ... but right now the system behind this will need some tweaking!

Good Night!
GMatt
  • #832
  • Oct 17, 2007 8:47pm Oct 17, 2007 8:47pm
Thanks Qpip,
I tried the EA and find although it earn a lot at beginning, it's not good at find an exit entry, so after the profit hit up to $3xx, it decrease to $-100 and I don't know where it will go, so we need to close the order manually? how to?
Quoting Qpip
Hi Zephyrs,

All correct. Except I'm using a slightly modified version of the ea which is still in the process of being "tweaked" but it gives exactly the same signals as the original one.

Happy trading!
  • #833
  • Oct 18, 2007 7:37am Oct 18, 2007 7:37am
Good morning!

Queen of my dreamless nights... hoeroem...

Coffee??
GNatch
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  • #834
  • Oct 18, 2007 10:59am Oct 18, 2007 10:59am
Quoting zephyrs
Thanks Qpip,
I tried the EA and find although it earn a lot at beginning, it's not good at find an exit entry, so after the profit hit up to $3xx, it decrease to $-100 and I don't know where it will go, so we need to close the order manually? how to?
We are working on this "problem" (gnat mostly). I am currently testing (1) Autobots which I don't interfere with, (2) Manual Bots where I exit manually or sometimes don't take a specific trade or turn one pair off, etc. and (3) BadTimes Bots where all the pairs have a TP of 40 (except GBPJPY which I put to 100).

I'll have the results tomorrow at close of day.

And I totally agree that is it an UTMOST FRUSTRATION to see da balloon get inflated to 800 pips and then deflate all the way to -100. We need to STOP THESE RUNAWAY PIPS from ...... well running away !!!
  • #835
  • Oct 18, 2007 11:08am Oct 18, 2007 11:08am
Quoting Qpip
We are working on this "problem" (gnat mostly). I am currently testing (1) Autobots which I don't interfere with, (2) Manual Bots where I exit manually or sometimes don't take a specific trade or turn one pair off, etc. and (3) BadTimes Bots where all the pairs have a TP of 40 (except GBPJPY which I put to 100).

I'll have the results tomorrow at close of day.

And I totally agree that is it an UTMOST FRUSTRATION to see da balloon get inflated to 800 pips and then deflate all the way to -100. We need to STOP THESE RUNAWAY PIPS from ...... well running away !!!
Anabolic pips should be taken down! Yes yes... that's what I always said!

I need to pip off here in a few moments. Just one question for Obiwan: What was the problem with the v2 EA?

Gruss
Gnatch
  • #836
  • Oct 18, 2007 11:09am Oct 18, 2007 11:09am
Quoting Qpip
We are working on this "problem" (gnat mostly). I am currently testing (1) Autobots which I don't interfere with, (2) Manual Bots where I exit manually or sometimes don't take a specific trade or turn one pair off, etc. and (3) BadTimes Bots where all the pairs have a TP of 40 (except GBPJPY which I put to 100).

I'll have the results tomorrow at close of day.

And I totally agree that is it an UTMOST FRUSTRATION to see da balloon get inflated to 800 pips and then deflate all the way to -100. We need to STOP THESE RUNAWAY PIPS from ...... well running away !!!
I think trading multi lots will sort this out. You can start micro, mini or full lots. Take out 1 lot at 50, another at 150 etc or any combination. Even though the backtest shows us that having huge trails and stop losses is the most profitibale it also goes against some very basic MM rules.
  • #837
  • Oct 18, 2007 11:17am Oct 18, 2007 11:17am
Quoting cryten
I think trading multi lots will sort this out. You can start micro, mini or full lots. Take out 1 lot at 50, another at 150 etc or any combination. Even though the backtest shows us that having huge trails and stop losses is the most profitibale it also goes against some very basic MM rules.
Right... not really MM, but the signals are really good on the longer TF (replaces real MM in a way ), but surely the feature to take 50% profit after 50 - 100 pips is very good. We do not want to be overly greedy on the whole position.
  • #838
  • Oct 18, 2007 11:20am Oct 18, 2007 11:20am
No that's right, that's why I had half take profit added. If we see that on 1 hour for example after the signal the trade can usually go up at least 40 or 50 pips we can set our half TP there and still enable the rest of the trade to reach full potential. I can't/won't stand for that amount of pips to end up as a losing trade.

400 pip TS which may lead eventually to more profit just does not agree with my MM/Personality unless I can scale out along the way
  • #839
  • Oct 18, 2007 11:25am Oct 18, 2007 11:25am
Quoting cryten
No that's right, that's why I had half take profit added. If we see that on 1 hour for example after the signal the trade can usually go up at least 40 or 50 pips we can set our half TP there and still enable the rest of the trade to reach full potential. I can't/won't stand for that amount of pips to end up as a losing trade.

400 pip TS which may lead eventually to more profit just does not agree with my MM/personality unless I can scale out along the way
Good move there. Apropos move: I need to get to the doctor! Be back tonight - she is located on the other side of Hamburg - brilliant move!!

See ya later!
Matt
  • #840
  • Oct 18, 2007 11:48am Oct 18, 2007 11:48am
Quoting Gnat
Right... not really MM, but the signals are really good on the longer TF (replaces real MM in a way ), but surely the feature to take 50% profit after 50 - 100 pips is very good. We do not want to be overly greedy on the whole position.
The problem I have with unloading 1/2 position at a given amount of pips, say 50 for example, is that the the pips LEFT are ALSO only worth 1/2 $ now, so they need to do 2 X the amount of pips to get the same $ worth as the original 50 (so they need to go up 100 for a total move of 150). Apart from GBPJPY I don't know if it isn't more profitable to just get out after 50 (or whatever number suits your fancy)
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